More Charges of Contempt for Tory Secrecy
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But your Honour. Why am I required to stand before you in court when others before me have done much worse? Is that not reason enough to grant me a pardon?
I like how Conservative Party supporters here are suggesting that since there was inappropriate conduct on the parts of former governing parties, that we should allow up to the same level of inappropriate behaviour on the part of the Conservative Party without question. The point of general elections is to improve the standards of government that we enjoy, is it not? As to the second ‘charge’, many members of the Commons were charging that the Government had held in contempt the Parliament of Canada over the refusal to hand over unredacted documents regarding Afghan detainees. It seems that this second issue has, fortunately, now been resolved.
CDNBear, I did not say that there were legal charges levied against the Conservative Party—I’m simply using the word ‘charges’ as allowed in English, as opposition party members of the Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics committee are charging that Mr. Togneri has held the committee in contempt. And now, it also seems that Mr. Rahim Jaffer could face charges of perjury for lying to a parliamentary committee. I wonder when Mr. Jaffer’s Conservative Party membership will be revoked? His fumbles has obviously been high-profile enough to warrant an expulsion from the national party membership.
And CDNBear, once more, The Honourable Peter Milliken M.P. (Kingston and the Islands), the Speaker of the House of Commons, has been one of our most reconciliatory holders of the speakership in recent memory. The Speaker of the House, in his usual and expected non-partisan manner, ruled both for the Government and the Opposition; he acknowledged that parties would need to come to an arrangement to respect the Government’s legal obligations, while upholding the principle of parliamentary supremacy. To rule against the Opposition in that case would have, by precedent, granted the Prime Minister’s Office an unacceptable control over the information that Parliament can access.
CDNBear, I did not say that there were legal charges levied against the Conservative Party—I’m simply using the word ‘charges’ as allowed in English, as opposition party members of the Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics committee are charging that Mr. Togneri has held the committee in contempt. And now, it also seems that Mr. Rahim Jaffer could face charges of perjury for lying to a parliamentary committee. I wonder when Mr. Jaffer’s Conservative Party membership will be revoked? His fumbles has obviously been high-profile enough to warrant an expulsion from the national party membership.
And CDNBear, once more, The Honourable Peter Milliken M.P. (Kingston and the Islands), the Speaker of the House of Commons, has been one of our most reconciliatory holders of the speakership in recent memory. The Speaker of the House, in his usual and expected non-partisan manner, ruled both for the Government and the Opposition; he acknowledged that parties would need to come to an arrangement to respect the Government’s legal obligations, while upholding the principle of parliamentary supremacy. To rule against the Opposition in that case would have, by precedent, granted the Prime Minister’s Office an unacceptable control over the information that Parliament can access.
three shadows are following The Harper Conservatives Abortion, Guy marriage, and the Federal debt @ $100 Billion in the red
YouTube - Stephen Harper brings US style media control to Canada
YouTube - Harper on fixed elections dates
Canada deserves better then a liar like Harper.
YouTube - Prime Minister responds to Opposition election threats
in the name of convenience he brakes the fixed election date.
YouTube - Stephen Harper's Broken Promises
What a jerk.
I actually liked Harper's idea of a fixed election date because it would force Parliamentarians to work together and tough it lout like responsible adults for four years. And then the Fuerer decides that that only applies to a majority government... Well, fine then, create a majority coalition then.
One thing is for sure, the coalition is still possible in Canada with one exception, not with the Conservatives as a key partner. all other three parties will join to get rid of the Conservatives and send them to opposition for a long long time. That is all they are good for. They are not to be trusted.......................................................................................and Harpers reckless one man rule will insure that in the next election.:canada:
As I said, it is next to imposable to undo the shadows of Abortion, Gay marriage, and $100 Billion in the red, plus the hypocritical game of transparency that happened as soon as he took office. The voters will punish Harper's bad misuse of power.
Don't be too sure about that. Granted, Harpo's brand of I'll-take-my-football-and-go-home-if-I-can't-be-captain isn't going to win him any popularity contest. IF your Liberals had a real leader, they might have a chance. All anyone had seen from Iggy has been oppose everything and promises.
For that reason a coalition is the monster having a snooze as we speak, but come election time, hey, all politicos are opportunists, and good old Jack Layton and Jill Duceppe may wake up the monster who will send the Conservatives to opposition and Harper out of a job..........:canada:
Layton is a lot less likely to join Iggy in any coalition if he keeps fishing in firm NDP ridings like the Soo. That shows a man who knows he doesn't have enough to lure red Tories away. They ALL have to dump their huge egos and start inviting voters into the polls.
That's not it, 5P. What the deal is about is that partisan hacks like Soc, SJP, and others are always complaining about the Cons while they completely ignore of forget that their own favored schmucks have been just as bad. I haven't seen a party yet that has been completely bad or completely good, yet these posters are constant with the, "Ugh! We good, them bad" crap. It's straight dogmatic, unintelligent, partisan cow dung.
Hypothetically, that's the way things are supposed to go, but from everything I have read about Canuckville politics, we hover around the status quo baseline. Stuff changes but on average, we aren't any better than 50 or 20 years ago.
Logic should dictate ego may have to take the back seat, if power should be taken off the hands of a one man show. Good example in Britain, 13 bad years of miss management forced the Conservatives there to join hands with Liberal Democrats, very historic move to extract the labour party from power.:canada:
I don't care who gets into the PM's chair or if a couple or 3 party leaders share it, nothing will change much. Canada will blunder along backwards into the future like it usually does.
BTW, Harper's broken promises?
Here's more broken promises (just from Martin's Red Book alone):
Top 10 Liberal Broken Promises.
1. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs (Red book, Chapter 1) - Canada currently has 1.4 million unemployed, half a million not looking for work, youth unemployment at 18%, and one in every four Canadians worried about their jobs.
2. Preserving and Protecting Universal Medicare (Red book, p.74) - By 1998/99 the Liberals will have cut $7 billion in social transfers to the provinces.
3. Scrap, Kill, and Abolish the GST - Prime Minister Chretien and Deputy Prime Minister Sheila Copps on the campaign trail made this promise. The Liberals will have spent $931 million to bury the hated tax in Atlantic Canada.
4. Restore faith in Government (Red Book, p.92) - Sheila Copps, David Collenette, Jean Boyle, Michael Dupuy - 'nuff said.
5. Stable Multiyear Funding for the CBC (Red Book, p.89) - The Liberals cut $377 million from the CBC - a third of the public broadcaster's budget.
6. Renegotiate NAFTA (Red Book p.24) - Two months after taking power, Chretien signed NAFTA without any changes.
7. A Code of Conduct for Politicians (Red Book, p.95) - no new code and the Prime Minister uses the secret Ministerial guidelines only when convenient.
8. Appointments Based on Competence (Red Book p.92) - The Governor General, the Ambassadors to Isreal and Britain, the Chairman of Canada Post, and the last 19 Senators are all partisan Liberal patronage appointments.
9. More Free Votes (Red Book p.92) - out of more than 200 government bills in three years, the Prime minister has allowed one free vote on government legislation. The Liberal government has restricted debate on more than 20 occasions.
10. Eliminate Trade Barriers (Red Book p.22) - Internal trade barriers continue to cost the economy $6 - $10 billion a year.
Those came from here: http://www.islandnet.com/~luree/politics.html
And you clowns whine about Harper. Martin stands right there beside him for being an a$$hole.
BTW, Harper's broken promises?
Here's more broken promises (just from Martin's Red Book alone):
Top 10 Liberal Broken Promises.
1. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs (Red book, Chapter 1) - Canada currently has 1.4 million unemployed, half a million not looking for work, youth unemployment at 18%, and one in every four Canadians worried about their jobs.
2. Preserving and Protecting Universal Medicare (Red book, p.74) - By 1998/99 the Liberals will have cut $7 billion in social transfers to the provinces.
3. Scrap, Kill, and Abolish the GST - Prime Minister Chretien and Deputy Prime Minister Sheila Copps on the campaign trail made this promise. The Liberals will have spent $931 million to bury the hated tax in Atlantic Canada.
4. Restore faith in Government (Red Book, p.92) - Sheila Copps, David Collenette, Jean Boyle, Michael Dupuy - 'nuff said.
5. Stable Multiyear Funding for the CBC (Red Book, p.89) - The Liberals cut $377 million from the CBC - a third of the public broadcaster's budget.
6. Renegotiate NAFTA (Red Book p.24) - Two months after taking power, Chretien signed NAFTA without any changes.
7. A Code of Conduct for Politicians (Red Book, p.95) - no new code and the Prime Minister uses the secret Ministerial guidelines only when convenient.
8. Appointments Based on Competence (Red Book p.92) - The Governor General, the Ambassadors to Isreal and Britain, the Chairman of Canada Post, and the last 19 Senators are all partisan Liberal patronage appointments.
9. More Free Votes (Red Book p.92) - out of more than 200 government bills in three years, the Prime minister has allowed one free vote on government legislation. The Liberal government has restricted debate on more than 20 occasions.
10. Eliminate Trade Barriers (Red Book p.22) - Internal trade barriers continue to cost the economy $6 - $10 billion a year.
Those came from here: http://www.islandnet.com/~luree/politics.html
And you clowns whine about Harper. Martin stands right there beside him for being an a$$hole.
And what are you the Conservative hack? that in spite of the promise of transparency Harper used the house of commons as his den, completely neglecting the good of the country, sink the country into stupid red ink, shut the doors of the house and because the past Liberals did financially far better for the country they are schmucks? you seriously need political calibration....