No Accountability For MP Spending

AnnaG

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The parties in the House of Commons turned down a request from the Auditor General to allow her to audit their personal spending. That means that $500 million of taxpayers' money can be spent any way the Members of Parliament choose. This seems to be a serious breach of the right of voters to know just haw their elected representatives are spending tax dollars. Interestingly, the only party that voted in favour of allowing the Auditor General to do her job was the Bloc Quebecois. Time to send off an email to my MP.

MPs rebuff attempts to audit their spending - thestar.com
The answer to that problem should be that we all just stop paying MPs. "Wanna blow our money as if it were free, good luck getting any then". :D
 

JLM

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As long as the party hacks don' come out in force to vote with their blinders on:

Oh lookie here, the name of this party sounds real cool and that snazzy add they had on TV the other day, and the leader had a sexy voice. I think I'll vote for this guy here.

Shades of 1968.............:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

JLM

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Then like I said your idea is the dumbest I have ever heard.

Either way there has to be some system of an audit and I trust Sheila Fraser to do the right thing.


That's your opinion, which I don't consider to be "carved in stone"..............:lol::lol::lol:

My system would just leave Sheila Fraser free to do other things.
 

Bar Sinister

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All expenditures by members of the Honourable the Senate, and the House of Commons, are audited by an independent firm. It would be double-handling for Ms. Sheila Fraser, the Auditor General of Canada and her department to review the same records again. There is no reason for the Houses of the Parliament of Canada to pay for the same thing to be done twice.

Actually according to the act defining the powers of the Auditor General she should have full access to MP spending records. The audit to which you refer is not public. If it was I suspect a few MPs might be a little embarrassed.
 

FiveParadox

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Actually according to the act defining the powers of the Auditor General she should have full access to MP spending records. The audit to which you refer is not public. If it was I suspect a few MPs might be a little embarrassed.

Actually, the Auditor General Act sets out that the Auditor General of Canada shall conduct audits of the public accounts identified in s. 64 of the Financial Administration Act. Anything else is outside the scope of the Auditor General’s powers unless at the request of the President of the Treasury Board or the Minister of Finance. As the Auditor General reports to the House of Commons, and not the Government, it is entirely proper for the Board of Internal Economy to reject the notion of such a needless second-over of the books.
 

Machjo

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Chauvinist.

Oh come on. Imagine the head of the Nazi Party of the time was a sexy woman called Katarina but just as crazy as Hitler was.

Heck, men all over Europe would be drooling over her and would bebegging for a Europe-wide Anschluss!:lol:
 

taxslave

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Actually, the Auditor General Act sets out that the Auditor General of Canada shall conduct audits of the public accounts identified in s. 64 of the Financial Administration Act. Anything else is outside the scope of the Auditor General’s powers unless at the request of the President of the Treasury Board or the Minister of Finance. As the Auditor General reports to the House of Commons, and not the Government, it is entirely proper for the Board of Internal Economy to reject the notion of such a needless second-over of the books.

That is too much like the RCMP investigating themselves. This is taxpayers money they are spending and we have a right to know that it is being spent wisely. Right now I am wondering what they want to hide so badly. If I am paying for massages then I want to receive them, not have some politician get it for me.
 

JLM

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That is too much like the RCMP investigating themselves. This is taxpayers money they are spending and we have a right to know that it is being spent wisely. Right now I am wondering what they want to hide so badly. If I am paying for massages then I want to receive them, not have some politician get it for me.

Same thing could be said for a visit to the wh*re house............:lol::lol::lol:

I see it doesn't like that word. :lol:
 

YukonJack

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"But there's a downside Y.J.- if they don't do it right and get too greedy, they have about four years before WE get to kick 'em out.................:lol::lol::lol::lol:"

JLM, there is an even more tragic and sad downside: these drones (and that is exactly what they are, always and blindly voting the party line) will have a gold plated pension that you and I can only dream of, AT OUR EXPENSE, paid for by OUR TAXES.

By the time we can vote these bastards out, it too late.
 

JLM

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"But there's a downside Y.J.- if they don't do it right and get too greedy, they have about four years before WE get to kick 'em out.................:lol::lol::lol::lol:"

JLM, there is an even more tragic and sad downside: these drones (and that is exactly what they are, always and blindly voting the party line) will have a gold plated pension that you and I can only dream of, AT OUR EXPENSE, paid for by OUR TAXES.

By the time we can vote these bastards out, it too late.

Yep, that's the bright side of it, if they were where they should be they would cost us even more to support.
 

Liberalman

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It's a shame that the MPs don't want to tell the voters to know where their tax dollars are going.

This will be a good for whoever want to run for government to have a transparency and accountability it is a vote getter.

Wait a minute didn't this government use it to win
 
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FiveParadox

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The Conservative Party of Canada hasn’t even fully-implemented its Federal Accountability Act; several of its provisions were legislated to come into force on a “day to be fixed by the Governor in Council”, and a day has never been set. While the ideas in the Act may have seemed wonderful at the time, it doesn’t matter since the Government has no intention of actually bringing the entire Act into force (unless it’s the prime minister’s last act before being voted out of office, to hold his successor to a different standard).
 

Bar Sinister

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Actually, the Auditor General Act sets out that the Auditor General of Canada shall conduct audits of the public accounts identified in s. 64 of the Financial Administration Act. Anything else is outside the scope of the Auditor General’s powers unless at the request of the President of the Treasury Board or the Minister of Finance. As the Auditor General reports to the House of Commons, and not the Government, it is entirely proper for the Board of Internal Economy to reject the notion of such a needless second-over of the books.

You are still wrong, unless the section of the act quoted by the CBC was in error. As stated MPs are subject to audit by the AG. However, that is not the point of the thread. The point is why are MPs trying to hide what they spend from the public, not whether the AG has the power to carry out such an audit. If she truly does not have that power, then she should be given it.
 

AnnaG

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It's a shame that the MPs don't want to tell the voters to know where their tax dollars are going.

This will be a good for whoever want to run for government to have a transparency and accountability it is a vote getter.

Wait a minute didn't this government use it to win
Yes, they did. Just like Martin promised in his Red Book (and didn't deliver).

But just as Martin and cronies had things to hide, so does Harpy and cronies.