I'm going to sound a little ignorant here, and I really hate to generalize all Quebecois woman the same, but one gave birth to me, I've dated many and married one. I can totally see her being able to piss off the Pope...:lol:
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Quebec student shaken by U.S. border ordeal
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I hear you, cops always seem to give me attitude for no reason when I walk out of a bar, drunk & obnoxious. Like, what gives copper? So what if I am pissing on the sidewalk lmao. :smile:
You sound like my buddy Nigel. Have you ever asked two Bradford Cops, when they started installing two c**ts to a cruiser?
You don't even have to be overtly breaking the law. Because of my record, of which I still have one that has not been pardoned, when I get stopped, I get instant attitude. Mostly from Cops that don't know me. Those that do, know I'm on the up and up and Cop friendly. Hell, even during my worst days, I was always Cop friendly. Comes from having a Dad that was RCMP...lol.
I'd met a friendly border guard once... though he was on holiday at the time.
But on a serious note, I've not traveled to the US much yet have not had any problems... yet. For the most part, I treated the border guards with respect and they treated me in kind. Of course I'd always done my homework in ensuring I had whatever documents i'd needed and had the documents ready the moment it was my turn.
I'd never had a problem yet, and each time, I've noticed that they do have computer access and so would assume that in any case of doubt concerning this or that law, they could consult their database quickly enough for a confirmation.
Also like any other human, I can't imagine most border guards wanting to deny someone entry knowing that it's only going to cause hardship for both parties anyway. The border guard wants as smooth and easy a day for himself as possible before going home int he evening and enjoying a good dinner and some TV. He doesn't want to have to deal with causing irritation unnecessarily as that means more stress for him. My guess is,a few bad apples aside, a border guard will never deny entry unless there is a very valid legal reason for doing so, and will also try to diffuse any tension as quickly as possible by offering any reasonable assistance to help the person affected, such as giving him the address of the nearest US consulate or embassy, informing him of what documentation is lacking, and showing some empathy. He just wants to get that irate traveler out of his site ASAP, and making him more irate will just mean more irritation for himself on a nice quiet day at work.
So my guess is, bad apples aside, most border guards will not deny entry unless they have no choice in the matter.
But on a serious note, I've not traveled to the US much yet have not had any problems... yet. For the most part, I treated the border guards with respect and they treated me in kind. Of course I'd always done my homework in ensuring I had whatever documents i'd needed and had the documents ready the moment it was my turn.
I'd never had a problem yet, and each time, I've noticed that they do have computer access and so would assume that in any case of doubt concerning this or that law, they could consult their database quickly enough for a confirmation.
Also like any other human, I can't imagine most border guards wanting to deny someone entry knowing that it's only going to cause hardship for both parties anyway. The border guard wants as smooth and easy a day for himself as possible before going home int he evening and enjoying a good dinner and some TV. He doesn't want to have to deal with causing irritation unnecessarily as that means more stress for him. My guess is,a few bad apples aside, a border guard will never deny entry unless there is a very valid legal reason for doing so, and will also try to diffuse any tension as quickly as possible by offering any reasonable assistance to help the person affected, such as giving him the address of the nearest US consulate or embassy, informing him of what documentation is lacking, and showing some empathy. He just wants to get that irate traveler out of his site ASAP, and making him more irate will just mean more irritation for himself on a nice quiet day at work.
So my guess is, bad apples aside, most border guards will not deny entry unless they have no choice in the matter.
Well, I think you are naive. As far as I've been able to tell, all they need is the pretense of a slight suspicion.
Well, I am tall and Caucasian, dress 'American', etc. and I won't deny there may be some racial prejudices among them. So yes, others may see things I don't as a result, and luck always plays a role.
And again, I've only crossed the border on a few occasions, so I may have simply have been lucky at those times.
Of course you'll always have the a$$hole looking for any chance to go on a power trip and push his limits as much as possible short of denying a person entry when that person has all the necessary documents, so as to keep his job of course, but otherwise making the person's life as miserable as possible. I just haven't encountered that one yet.
If I should ever encounter that kind of border guard, the prick variety, I'd hope I'd had a lot of beans for breakfast on that day, try to get them into a room with me for a strip search, and just as they start the pat down from the back, I'd let 'er rip right at that moment.
Hey, I went to enter a foreign country, in the middle of the night, without very good documentation about what I was going to do, and with no money.
I don't know why they didn't welcome me with open arms.
I don't know why they didn't welcome me with open arms.
But my special-fragrance document would be reserved only for the special border guards, the ones who want to cause trouble for no good reason.
I doubt most of it has anything to do with bigotry. My hubby is tall, caucasian, and dress in blue jeans and t-shirt most of the time.
Anyway, I have never figured out why there's such a difference between American border guards and Canadian ones. At the very most, the American ones are cold, indifferent, and all business, while a large portion of Canadian ones seem to have the god complex, are power-tripping, and seem to be a bit vindictive like they are almost hoping to find someone breaking the rules.
Perhaps.
Then next time you come back to Canada from the US, eat lot's of beans for breakfast that morning. Better to come armed and ready for a showdown.
You mean like small men? There's a saying around here about small men with attitude: we call it the Little-big Man Syndrome because they always seem to go overboard trying to prove themselves as good or better than larger men. lol
I can't help but wonder if this would have made the news if it were a male of colour, instead of a young white woman.
Being turned away at the border due to improper papers is nothing new. It happens all the time. One of my best friends was stranded much like this, but in DUBLIN. No flight home, and tough luck. Get ahold of your family and scrape together some wire transfers so you can get home, because you're S.O.L here. No one would have dreamt to write a news paper article horrified at the fact that he was strip searched. Suck it up butter cup would have been the attitude.
Being turned away at the border due to improper papers is nothing new. It happens all the time. One of my best friends was stranded much like this, but in DUBLIN. No flight home, and tough luck. Get ahold of your family and scrape together some wire transfers so you can get home, because you're S.O.L here. No one would have dreamt to write a news paper article horrified at the fact that he was strip searched. Suck it up butter cup would have been the attitude.
That's a different affliction altogether. At least around here it is. The symptoms of that one is just a bad attitude. The symptoms of the one I was referring to is that a small man has the attitude that "just because I am small doesn't mean I am not better than you". lol
Anyway, it looks like people are assuming that the young woman doesn't have the right papers. She did say she'd been to Europe, you know. So I'd think that would indicate that she has her passport and stuff.
Hey... people are volunteering to work at organic farms?!
Now there's a business to open. Free labour. All I'd need to provide would be room and board. Sweet deal that is. I'll even provide work clothes and take care of the laundry too at no extra charge.
And if I'm getting free work out of them, no worries, I'd be more than willing to pay for their visa. Small price to pay for free labour.
If that farm could not have even paid for her Visa, no worries, my farm will.
Now there's a business to open. Free labour. All I'd need to provide would be room and board. Sweet deal that is. I'll even provide work clothes and take care of the laundry too at no extra charge.
And if I'm getting free work out of them, no worries, I'd be more than willing to pay for their visa. Small price to pay for free labour.
If that farm could not have even paid for her Visa, no worries, my farm will.