Already been posted oh repetitious one. Or did you want the link to the vid about the Mossad filming JFK's murder rather that it being shot by somebody who just happened to be in the neighborhood?
9/11 Conspiracy Theories Debunked - Video
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Still can't answer these questions eh?
Quoting CDNBear
Challenge 1. If you would like to debate me on steel at any time, feel free to start a thread so I can embarrass you yet again.
Question 1. What claims have I made that require proof?
Question 2. So by all means, please show your evidence that the floor should not have failed under the specific conditions it faced?
Question 3, and 4. Didn't you just assert with all confidence that it is impossible? In the process question my knowledge of steel?
Question 5. Do you know what 4" mesh looks like?
Now, how does that chart relate to the downing of the WTC?
What is the chart saying?
What do you think it proves?
And what was NIST's purpose for submitting that test to UL?
Challenge 1. If you would like to debate me on steel at any time, feel free to start a thread so I can embarrass you yet again.
Question 1. What claims have I made that require proof?
Question 2. So by all means, please show your evidence that the floor should not have failed under the specific conditions it faced?
Question 3, and 4. Didn't you just assert with all confidence that it is impossible? In the process question my knowledge of steel?
Question 5. Do you know what 4" mesh looks like?
Now, how does that chart relate to the downing of the WTC?
What is the chart saying?
What do you think it proves?
And what was NIST's purpose for submitting that test to UL?
Still can't answer these questions eh?
Some have already been answered endlessly.
Say goodbye Liar.
Some have already been answered endlessly.
Challenge 1. If you would like to debate me on steel at any time, feel free to start a thread so I can embarrass you yet again.
God's rod of iron, give the specifics .... no reply so I'll give you the answer. It is the same rod used to correct a 'wayward child'. The words used for that correction are not at all flexible, so it is a symbolic rod of iron. It stands for the rule of Law that will stand forever in the very same form it was first introduced. If you want to throw out a guess as to how much the temperature of a steel bow would have to be lowered so it would break knock yourself out. I put it at more than -40 based on the number of dip-sticks on the large excavators that gets cracks if they get slammed into almost anything at that temp. That is why the cold weather sticks have that extra inch thick fillet around each bushing in the whole boom.
Psalms:18:34: He teacheth my hands to war, so that a bow of steel is broken by mine arms.
Question 1. What claims have I made that require proof?
Can't recall anything where you did, but now that you bring up that point it probably fits in with why I put you on ignore and why you will be going back there after this post.
Question 2. So by all means, please show your evidence that the floor should not have failed under the specific conditions it faced?
I already pointed to to two sources (a vid and a paper prepared by 'scientists') that replicated the fire. Those results, even though presented, were not the ones promoted in the 'official story'. That one promoted a failure via sagging and that resulted in the inner and outer columns being pulled in by those same weakened floor-joists. With all your 'professed credentials' I didn't ever hear you say that was an impossibility, when I and observer from another industry have to wait for the results to come back from the labs you would have already known the theory was and intentional lie and you said nothing about it till 6 posts ago in this thread (minus the pictures). That was enough to slide you over into the 'liar' category and since the rest of your posts aren't worth reading in the first place you made history by being the first one on my ignore list. Dex should have caught on when I replied to his next post about how childish I was being. That aside, 911 is still seeing civilians being killed for no greater crime than gathering in a group for a wedding, so far two wars and climbing to the 2 million mark.
Question 3, and 4. Didn't you just assert with all confidence that it is impossible? In the process question my knowledge of steel?
In the process you also proved yourself to be a knowing liar spreading bull**** that you know is bull****. Even I (zero papers) knows a flimsy hot floor-joist cannot move a colder bor massive piece of steel let alone cause it to break. lol
Question 5. Do you know what 4" mesh looks like?
About 1/8" wire in a pattern of 4" squares is what my dictionary says. 6" would be 2" longer on each side of the square and come with a stronger wire. Shall I go on or do you want me to slide-rule the wire in the picture provided in the report.
Now, how does that chart relate to the downing of the WTC?
It has to do with the accuracy of the 'official story', the one you carefully have no opinion about. Bad science needs to be investigated.
What is the chart saying?
I thought you could read that sort of paper?? #3 is the mark it got at the end of the test. Imagine that same fire on much larger pieces of steel, wait that is an impossible task for a liar.
What do you think it proves?
It proves the first investigation was flawed, and that means the taxpayers who are paying for the war have a right to know there should even be a war. Liars don't like to promote that aspect of 911, a fact you are quite well aware of.
And what was NIST's purpose for submitting that test to UL?
Part of an investigation that they refused to consider in the end. If you have 12 'diplomas' and you can swallow that theory then you better start listening to people who have 24 'diplomas'. I posted a link to a vid that questioned the fall of WTC7 (in the last page or two). Feel free to note the time stamps on all the spots you find this person, who is much more qualified than you in steel building construction, to be in error. Even Dex wouldn't support a few bolts being a strong enough joint to pull either steel columns, actually if he read it in a book he would without even questioning it.
God's rod of iron, give the specifics .... no reply so I'll give you the answer. It is the same rod used to correct a 'wayward child'. The words used for that correction are not at all flexible, so it is a symbolic rod of iron. It stands for the rule of Law that will stand forever in the very same form it was first introduced. If you want to throw out a guess as to how much the temperature of a steel bow would have to be lowered so it would break knock yourself out. I put it at more than -40 based on the number of dip-sticks on the large excavators that gets cracks if they get slammed into almost anything at that temp. That is why the cold weather sticks have that extra inch thick fillet around each bushing in the whole boom.
Psalms:18:34: He teacheth my hands to war, so that a bow of steel is broken by mine arms.
Question 1. What claims have I made that require proof?
Can't recall anything where you did, but now that you bring up that point it probably fits in with why I put you on ignore and why you will be going back there after this post.
Question 2. So by all means, please show your evidence that the floor should not have failed under the specific conditions it faced?
I already pointed to to two sources (a vid and a paper prepared by 'scientists') that replicated the fire. Those results, even though presented, were not the ones promoted in the 'official story'. That one promoted a failure via sagging and that resulted in the inner and outer columns being pulled in by those same weakened floor-joists. With all your 'professed credentials' I didn't ever hear you say that was an impossibility, when I and observer from another industry have to wait for the results to come back from the labs you would have already known the theory was and intentional lie and you said nothing about it till 6 posts ago in this thread (minus the pictures). That was enough to slide you over into the 'liar' category and since the rest of your posts aren't worth reading in the first place you made history by being the first one on my ignore list. Dex should have caught on when I replied to his next post about how childish I was being. That aside, 911 is still seeing civilians being killed for no greater crime than gathering in a group for a wedding, so far two wars and climbing to the 2 million mark.
Question 3, and 4. Didn't you just assert with all confidence that it is impossible? In the process question my knowledge of steel?
In the process you also proved yourself to be a knowing liar spreading bull**** that you know is bull****. Even I (zero papers) knows a flimsy hot floor-joist cannot move a colder bor massive piece of steel let alone cause it to break. lol
Question 5. Do you know what 4" mesh looks like?
About 1/8" wire in a pattern of 4" squares is what my dictionary says. 6" would be 2" longer on each side of the square and come with a stronger wire. Shall I go on or do you want me to slide-rule the wire in the picture provided in the report.
Now, how does that chart relate to the downing of the WTC?
It has to do with the accuracy of the 'official story', the one you carefully have no opinion about. Bad science needs to be investigated.
What is the chart saying?
I thought you could read that sort of paper?? #3 is the mark it got at the end of the test. Imagine that same fire on much larger pieces of steel, wait that is an impossible task for a liar.
What do you think it proves?
It proves the first investigation was flawed, and that means the taxpayers who are paying for the war have a right to know there should even be a war. Liars don't like to promote that aspect of 911, a fact you are quite well aware of.
And what was NIST's purpose for submitting that test to UL?
Part of an investigation that they refused to consider in the end. If you have 12 'diplomas' and you can swallow that theory then you better start listening to people who have 24 'diplomas'. I posted a link to a vid that questioned the fall of WTC7 (in the last page or two). Feel free to note the time stamps on all the spots you find this person, who is much more qualified than you in steel building construction, to be in error. Even Dex wouldn't support a few bolts being a strong enough joint to pull either steel columns, actually if he read it in a book he would without even questioning it.
Say goodbye Liar.
This subject is very important for the future of it's debaters. Those who stick to the official version of events prove their loyalty to that scenario and deny the need of the majority for proper and complete discovery. In this case that adherence to the scripted progression of events in the overwhelming absence of supporting evidence condemns them even if their intent is not criminal in nature, ignorance is no excuse under law. The clearest insight of the 9/11 WTC phenomena is gained by examining what has not happened rather than what has. If this were not an inside job every aspect would have been subjected to the fullest depth of the very best forensic examination and submitted for detailed blanket publication instead of the obvious consumer propagandization. Many times a hundred years separate acts of mass murder, shame and fear ensure secrecy and death saves the criminals from prosecution in the mortal dimension. Cowardly acts are never rewarded. If you think that's not true you are fooling yourselves. There is more to life than mere living and you will discover this at a cost you cannot bear. The sins of the father are visited on the sons. You will be hunted down and the owed flesh extracted, even past the veil of death.
The innocent dead of Iraq and Afghanistan show us our futures if we fail to bring this crime to light, the act will continue to kill the innocent far beyond it's shores and its time.
The innocent dead of Iraq and Afghanistan show us our futures if we fail to bring this crime to light, the act will continue to kill the innocent far beyond it's shores and its time.
Cram it Gowad. That has nothing to do with reality.
That just proves your spoon fed nonsense and really have no clue, thank you for that.
Of course, because it's easier to ignore me, then answer the question...:lol:
I saw that, but none of them were in the correct context, I asked you explain it. You can't, so ignore me.
Of course, again, because I embarrass you when I force you to admit you can't answer the questions, lol.
Prove it.
That's sufficient, now can you tell what it is you think this material is capable of?
Really? Please explain how it relates to the investigation?
I know exactly what the test was for, I can also read the chart, I don't need someone to tell me what it has no relevance to, like yourself. I know you don't know what it means, or why it was performed, which is why you will call me a liar and put me on ignore.
Really? :lol:
That just proves your spoon fed nonsense and really have no clue, thank you for that.
First of all, I said 12 certificates. In welding, as well as blueprint reading and drafting. But I see since you have no idea what you're talking about...
Quite...Good bye liar. Which is exactly what you are. You merely parrot what others have spoon fed you. So not only are you a liar, you're an inept one at that...
Please, by all means DB, show me where I have parroted the official story?
That was obviously a rhetorical question, neither you nor mhz answer direct questions.
I'm simply asking for you two to show me the scientific proof, and explain how it applies. Instead I get Godwad shyte and typical parroted nonsense, with sign of any understanding from either of you.
I now await your typical insulting diatribe, in lieu of an actual thought.
This isn't the first time a scam has been used to start a war, if they don't mind them being over there then the odds are they won't complain to much when ......
Notice how Colpy (and the choir) herald a movie star as an authoritative voice in political deceptions arena and his point about the damage to the front of WTC7 has to be considered what site has ever claimed George was the mastermind of the whole thing. Without a disclaimer from the Colpy Clan they would seem to support that part of the argument also proving they will swallow anything they are fed basically.
Wait till the Rothschild clan have to explain the pregnant hockey-stick (green line is the most telling) if you think 911 was a big operation. As far sighted as they usually are they sure missed the ball on that one. The spike the Rothschild introduced by their population counts of Jews from 1880 doesn't really fit in with the 'norm' that was the established population growth from 500AD. If people are going to lie about the fall of a few towers that started a was thinks of the **** that would hit the and if these numbers were ever seriously investigated. The graph used the numbers from this site (1880-1950)Jewish Population of Israel as Percentage of World Jewish Population (1882-2008)
Yep you are on the list, see you next year. I answered all your questions and you still are a liar. The 'L' on your emoticon looks great as that represents your head, same place the nuns put the 'dunce cap' before sending you to the corner. How sad is it when a person doesn't even know they are telling the world they are a loser. A true Kodak moment lol
Of course I'm on your list, you can't answer the questions.
No you didn't, you just parroted the same thing you did when you posted the material that I questioned.
Of course, I must be stupid, because you can't answer questions directly...:roll:
Why don't you tell us all how it feels.
That would be the moment you actually answer a question completely, directly and without blindly parroting what somebody told you to say...
:lol:
They who?
You referred to someone losing a high alt. glider. As there is more than one high alt. glider and more than one owner of high alt. gliders, I was wondering which ones you were talking about.
high altitude glider - Google Search
Spare us the hysteria will ya, maybe someone can slap you to get you to clam up. You deny parroting the official impossible story when there's a trail of posts of your dumb insistence that buildings can do what those did. Even hard evidence and the sense god gave a frog proves the lie that you continue to "believe" whatever believe constitutes to someone like you. I don't have to show you nothing but the scorn you earned by your labours thus far. Soul boy, you should try to get yours back.
What I can figure out is that people had been plotting this for quite some time. A reasonable summary of the event would start at motive (of which there is probably more than one), who the plotters were (again, probably more than one), who carried it out (probably the plotters with the aid of a few friends), the equipment and processes, and finally the deeds themselves.
Basically, it is the 5 W's and the how. No story I have seen so far has satisfied these questions without being full of holes. So it is a reasonable conclusion that no-one yet can explain what happened. Lots of guessing by experts and everyone else.
Basically, it is the 5 W's and the how. No story I have seen so far has satisfied these questions without being full of holes. So it is a reasonable conclusion that no-one yet can explain what happened. Lots of guessing by experts and everyone else.