White women and multiculturalism....

VanIsle

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Perhaps it's naive of me, but, it doesn't make sense to me to move ANYwhere without first securing a job.
I so agree. I have never understood the mentality behind anyone just up and moving somewhere in the hope of getting work! You don't go to the expense of moving only to find out there isn't a light at the end of the tunnel you've arrived at.
 

TenPenny

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I am white, and 16th generation with a mixed european background. I was influuenced mainly from these cultures growing up and christianity. I was always so proud to be a true canadian since my family came to canada in 1630 and started quebec but we ended up on NB later on. I of course come from an educated family, dad being a lawyer.

I am now 45 and there STILL is no work in my province. I had to leave many times alone to f ind work. I am college educated. What I find is when I enter cities like toronto, vancouver and ottawa, there is NO support at all for white women like myself. In fact this past year I tried many places and everywhere only help immigrants. I also personally know al ot of my female friends are either on paxil or anti-depressants because of the way they are treated by immigrant MEN mainly (i ended up on them in vancouver when I lived there). Where do we draw the line with this ethnic stuff- we are the d ominant culture and we want to preserve our culture. We should not have to give up our rights so that minorities can each have their own culture and ours is pushed aside. I am rather sickened by it. What do you all think???

I thought you claimed to be an Acadian?
 

Downhome_Woman

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I am white, and 16th generation with a mixed european background. I was influuenced mainly from these cultures growing up and christianity. I was always so proud to be a true canadian since my family came to canada in 1630 and started quebec but we ended up on NB later on. I of course come from an educated family, dad being a lawyer.

I am now 45 and there STILL is no work in my province. I had to leave many times alone to f ind work. I am college educated. What I find is when I enter cities like toronto, vancouver and ottawa, there is NO support at all for white women like myself. In fact this past year I tried many places and everywhere only help immigrants. I also personally know al ot of my female friends are either on paxil or anti-depressants because of the way they are treated by immigrant MEN mainly (i ended up on them in vancouver when I lived there). Where do we draw the line with this ethnic stuff- we are the d ominant culture and we want to preserve our culture. We should not have to give up our rights so that minorities can each have their own culture and ours is pushed aside. I am rather sickened by it. What do you all think???
What 'culture'? white isn't a culture, 'black' isn't a culture. 'Aboriginal' isn't a cul;ture.
You say that "dominant culture and we want to preserve our culture.' But what you describe is a predominately French background - does that mean that the rest of Canada should kneel to your culture? The Chinese and the Sikhs and the Jews have been in this land for well over 100 years. They have contributed to it - made it grow. Are their contributions to be considered less than your ancestors because they came here late?What is a culture? French, Welsh, English, Cree - these are definite examples of cultures - how people live and believe. 'White' or 'black' or 'brown' are just colours - they don't define a culture.And please tell me - just what 'rights' have you had to give up so that 'minorities' can have their own culture.
And in case you're wondering , my immigrant families have been here from around 300 years past.If I can't get a job? It's because I didn't try hard enough or weren't creative enough (and no, I don't mean embellishing the truth) with my CV.
 

theconqueror

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Joke: How many men does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Answer: None, let the wife to dishes in the dark.

What I am trying to say is that some people think a woman's place in the world is at home taking care of the kids who should be preoccupied with homemaking duties then to be exposed to the wonderfull world of corporate Canada.
 

gopher

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"We should not have to give up our rights so that minorities can each have their own culture and ours is pushed aside. I am rather sickened by it."


That's an old topic that has been around for a long time:


 

Dexter Sinister

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I of course come from an educated family...
That's nice. You don't write as if that's true, neither do your attitudes suggest that's true. For instance:
We should not have to give up our rights so that minorities can each have their own culture and ours is pushed aside. I am rather sickened by it. What do you all think???
I think you've got some other issues you're not talking about. Maybe think for a moment or two about how Canada's aboriginal people might feel about what happened to their culture after the European invasion the ancestors you're so proud of were part of.
 

SirJosephPorter

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The work available in the Maritimes is piddly and pay is crumbs.... which is also why I'm moving to Australia in a few months... more jobs, double my pay for half the work I'm doing.... why wouldn't I?

I have been to Australia twice on vacation, Australia is a great place. People there enjoy high quality of life. If I could not live in Canada, Australia would be my second choice. And I say this as someone who has lived in USA and Britain for a few years each.

The only drawback about Australia is that houses are very expensive, especially in the big cities like Sydney. Many people live in apartments, apartment living is much more common there that it is in Canada.

But overall, both Australia and New Zealand are great places to live.
 

SirJosephPorter

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I am white, and 16th generation with a mixed european background. I was influuenced mainly from these cultures growing up and christianity. I was always so proud to be a true canadian since my family came to canada in 1630 and started quebec but we ended up on NB later on. I of course come from an educated family, dad being a lawyer.

I am now 45 and there STILL is no work in my province. I had to leave many times alone to f ind work. I am college educated. What I find is when I enter cities like toronto, vancouver and ottawa, there is NO support at all for white women like myself. In fact this past year I tried many places and everywhere only help immigrants. I also personally know al ot of my female friends are either on paxil or anti-depressants because of the way they are treated by immigrant MEN mainly (i ended up on them in vancouver when I lived there). Where do we draw the line with this ethnic stuff- we are the d ominant culture and we want to preserve our culture. We should not have to give up our rights so that minorities can each have their own culture and ours is pushed aside. I am rather sickened by it. What do you all think???

Funny you should say that. Jan. When our son came home after his second year of college, he tried very hard to find a summer job. He did not get any; he was beat out by girls at every stage. He was hopping mad about it. He was home all three months, doing nothing.

So he looked at what career would be good, where he won’t have to compete against girls at each and every stage, fight them for jobs and come out the loser. He decided on medicine. He has always been full of self confidence; he had no doubt in his mind that he will be able to get into medicine.

And he was able to get admission to Western for medicine. He is just finishing the medical school and will start his residency in July. He won’t have to compete with anybody when he finishes his residency.

But it is all a matter of perspective, isn’t it? You think that women have it rough; my son thought that women have it easy, that he had it rough.
 

Curiosity

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Janbebe42

I understand your frustration but a descendant from one of the original Canadian families, college educated does not necessarily open doors for you. Unfortunately
the priorities regarding assistance in our modern world focus on those newly arrived, language challenged, and the only thing you have as a plus is your gender and of course your education but on the minus side...look at the lineup ahead.

You have masked your disappointment and perhaps anger, but it may be using up
all of your energy by giving you a reason to give up.

As you are no doubt competent and knowledgeable, you may be judged that you do
not really "need a job" because of your assets. My first reaction when reading your
opening post was "why don't you start your own business"..... and my next question..... "why not?"

You are able to survive apparently because you are here, frustrated yes, and angry perhaps, but our world has morphed into finding the largest number of needy to be
the first ones to secure employment because they work for less, ergo more can be
employed.

You may be pricing yourself outside the marketplace....but you probably know this.

Start on a journey of self examination and ask: Why would I hire myself? Be honest, looking over where you live at the present time, and your attitude when you interview.... you may be giving off "I'm better than this" kind of vibe.... because you probably are, but it's not a winning presentation.

If you can survive, why not write a book.... self help is good....caught in the modern work world of unemployable....would be excellent as a recap of your own
personal struggles..... someone in the Canadian govenrment might even get a few
suggestions from it......

Do a self sell as soon as you can..... start with throwing out all the reasons you are using unsuccessfully and perhaps get used to admitting they aren't working... and
get down to reality..... I want this job because I need to work, to thrive again, and not to be discriminated against because of my background....

If you secure any interviews, please use the word "need" regularly - that you "need to work" implication being you are not at home sipping lattes with your best friends....and one real winner of a phrase in an interview "reverse discrimination", implying you are being put aside because of your ethnicity of privilege which in itself is a judgment against you and may be a case for "poor hiring practice" in a government which tap dances daily on lawsuit probabilities.

The world has turned upside down and you are the casualty of culture many are experiencing... Best wishes to you...stay positive. Curio
 
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Twila

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I'm White, Female and I moved from Van Island to Vancouver mainland and have been working steadily since.

I'm second generation Canadian. All 4 grandparents were born raised in other countries.

What I've learned is that it's all about your attitude. If you have a bad one, you will have bad experiences. If you have a good attitude then any bad things are simply learning experiences. The control is yours. You can hand it over and take no responsibility for your choices and the results, but you best learn to enjoy misery.

I moved from Vancouver Island to the mainland with no job. I had a job within 6 weeks of moving here. I was recently laid off (4 weeks ago) from a job I'd held for 6 years. I had another good job within 2 weeks. If you're college educated and can't get a job then I'd suggest it's an attitude issue.
 

AnnaG

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Joke: How many men does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Answer: None, let the wife to dishes in the dark.

What I am trying to say is that some people think a woman's place in the world is at home taking care of the kids who should be preoccupied with homemaking duties then to be exposed to the wonderfull world of corporate Canada.
So? A lot of such men are not really men, but troglodytes and are secretly afraid of women, especially powerful women. They probably had overbearing mothers. :D
A lot of other men with this preference have been brainwashed into it by religious dogma. :)
 

AnnaG

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I have been to Australia twice on vacation, Australia is a great place. People there enjoy high quality of life. If I could not live in Canada, Australia would be my second choice. And I say this as someone who has lived in USA and Britain for a few years each.
Whoopdedoo for you.
 

AnnaG

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Funny you should say that. Jan. When our son came home after his second year of college, he tried very hard to find a summer job. He did not get any; he was beat out by girls at every stage. He was hopping mad about it. He was home all three months, doing nothing.
Whoopdedoo for you.
 

gopher

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"I am now 45 and there STILL is no work in my province. I had to leave many times alone to f ind work. I am college educated. What I find is when I enter cities like toronto, vancouver and ottawa, there is NO support at all for white women like myself. In fact this past year I tried many places and everywhere only help immigrants."



On the KKK & Christianity thread there are several posts which repeat the myth that only minorities play the race card. We have had several posts from whites on this forum which now dispel this myth.

Therefore, thank you for making this post and for setting the record straight.
 

torontogal28

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Here in Toronto there is NO work. I'm a student and have been looking for work (part-time) for a year now. Nothing. I've applied to McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, anything, and no one has even called me back for an interview. It's become hopeless for me.

Our city streets are also always clogged and our public transit strained. Hospital emergency departments are always packed to the max and its not uncommon for school classes to be above capacity. I was born and raised here and I'm starting to hate it.

Toronto gets 43% of the nation's 250,000 immigrants. This city cannot handle it anymore. There is NOTHING here! Plus we have people moving from the maritimes here looking for work. This is too much. I lived in Calgary for 6 months a couple of years ago and it was so much better there. I found work within 2 weeks of me settling. I want to move back there but I don't have the funds to relocate but maybe when I finish school I will.

I hate this city.
 

AnnaG

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Here in Toronto there is NO work. I'm a student and have been looking for work (part-time) for a year now. Nothing. I've applied to McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, anything, and no one has even called me back for an interview. It's become hopeless for me.

Our city streets are also always clogged and our public transit strained. Hospital emergency departments are always packed to the max and its not uncommon for school classes to be above capacity. I was born and raised here and I'm starting to hate it.

Toronto gets 43% of the nation's 250,000 immigrants. This city cannot handle it anymore. There is NOTHING here! Plus we have people moving from the maritimes here looking for work. This is too much. I lived in Calgary for 6 months a couple of years ago and it was so much better there. I found work within 2 weeks of me settling. I want to move back there but I don't have the funds to relocate but maybe when I finish school I will.

I hate this city.
Move in with Sir Joseph Potter. He's always touting how TO is so utopian.
 

Risus

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Here in Toronto there is NO work. I'm a student and have been looking for work (part-time) for a year now. Nothing. I've applied to McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, anything, and no one has even called me back for an interview. It's become hopeless for me.

Our city streets are also always clogged and our public transit strained. Hospital emergency departments are always packed to the max and its not uncommon for school classes to be above capacity. I was born and raised here and I'm starting to hate it.

Toronto gets 43% of the nation's 250,000 immigrants. This city cannot handle it anymore. There is NOTHING here! Plus we have people moving from the maritimes here looking for work. This is too much. I lived in Calgary for 6 months a couple of years ago and it was so much better there. I found work within 2 weeks of me settling. I want to move back there but I don't have the funds to relocate but maybe when I finish school I will.

I hate this city.

There are lots of jobs in TO and the suburbs. You can't be checking the right job sites.
 

Icarus27k

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Sorry to dispute, but every sound economist I've ever listened to says that immigration itself isn't responsible for lost jobs. Businesses just multiply to keep up with the increased population.

Let's use the example you brought up of a McDonald's. If a town with a certain population has a single McDonald's and locals work there, when the population increases (either through immigration or a higher birth rate or whatever), the town will eventually just get a second McDonald's to keep up with the demand.
 

ironsides

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Sorry to dispute, but every sound economist I've ever listened to says that immigration itself isn't responsible for lost jobs. Businesses just multiply to keep up with the increased population.

Let's use the example you brought up of a McDonald's. If a town with a certain population has a single McDonald's and locals work there, when the population increases (either through immigration or a higher birth rate or whatever), the town will eventually just get a second McDonald's to keep up with the demand.
All making minimum wage. It would be much better if they all were educated at college level, or had some technical skills.