Quit picking on Obama……

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According to PolitiFact.com's Obamameter, Obama has kept 105 out of the 503 campaign promises they identify; 17 promises are broken; and 259 promises are in the works.


Source: PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Barack Obama's Campaign Promises

This idea that Obama hasn't kept his promises is pretty baseless.

Hey that's pretty good.

When did they close GITMO? He said his first week in office it would be closed in 1 year. (18 )

Offshore drilling (19)

Those are just a couple off the top of my head.
 

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Hey that's pretty good.

When did they close GITMO? He said his first week in office it would be closed in 1 year. (18 )

Offshore drilling (19)

Those are just a couple off the top of my head.

PolitiFact.com rates the promise to close Gitmo as "In the Works". They pointedly say that the goal to close Gitmo WITININ 1 YEAR was not a campaign promise, but rather a post-inaguration goal. Full info, including updates on the process of closing Gitmo below.

Source: PolitiFact | Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center - Obama promise No. 177:
 

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PolitiFact.com rates the promise to close Gitmo as "In the Works". They pointedly say that the goal to close Gitmo WITININ 1 YEAR was not a campaign promise, but rather a post-inaguration goal. Full info, including updates on the process of closing Gitmo below.

Source: PolitiFact | Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center - Obama promise No. 177:

Ahhhh....so THOSE promises don't count. Understood. :lol:

Well heck if they weren't promises and are now goals then he is the most honest President ever!

Talk about spin.
 

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It's not spin. PolitiFact has been grading Obama's campaign promises all along, not what he has done since he's been inagurated.

Obama did promise to close Gitmo during the 2008 campaign, but he didn't give a timetable. During his first full day as POTUS, he signed an Executive Order ordering Gitmo closed and detailed how it was going to happen. These details included a timeframe of having Gitmo closed within a year. That did not happen, but Gitmo is still being closed.

You can criticize him for not doing it by his timetable, but that wasn't a part of his campaign promises.




One of the ironic things about the Gitmo closing I always found: a maximum security prison in the US is probably more brutal than Gitmo. So if detainees got sent to one, it would probably be a worse situation for them. At least they would get a trial, but if found guilty, they would be locked in a small cell for 23 hours a day in some big compound in the Rocky Mountains or somewhere.
 

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It's not spin. PolitiFact has been grading Obama's campaign promises all along, not what he has done since he's been inagurated.

Obama did promise to close Gitmo during the 2008 campaign, but he didn't give a timetable. During his first full day as POTUS, he signed an Executive Order ordering Gitmo closed and detailed how it was going to happen. These details included a timeframe of having Gitmo closed within a year. That did not happen, but Gitmo is still being closed.

You can criticize him for not doing it by his timetable, but that wasn't a part of his campaign promises.




One of the ironic things about the Gitmo closing I always found: a maximum security prison in the US is probably more brutal than Gitmo. So if detainees got sent to one, it would probably be a worse situation for them. At least they would get a trial, but if found guilty, they would be locked in a small cell for 23 hours a day in some big compound in the Rocky Mountains or somewhere.

What's wrong with the Rocky Mountains? At least they could enjoy the view (while on work detail)
 

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One of the ironic things about the Gitmo closing I always found: a maximum security prison in the US is probably more brutal than Gitmo. So if detainees got sent to one, it would probably be a worse situation for them. At least they would get a trial, but if found guilty, they would be locked in a small cell for 23 hours a day in some big compound in the Rocky Mountains or somewhere.

I find that very ironic too. Once they get sent to a SuperMax in Illinois or Leveanworth Kansas they are going to dream of their warm Carribean nights spent in Cuba. You are also right about their sentence. Most likely they will get that 23 hour in a cell per day which happens to folks who can't be released into general population.

But hey...they want it closed down and I think we should close it down soon and get them sent to a SuperMax.
 

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Arianna, Giuliani Spar Over His Record, Bernie Kerik, Support For Marco Rubio (VIDEO)

Arianna sparred with Rudy Giuliani on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" today over his endorsement of Tea Party favorite Marco Rubio over Charlie Crist in Florida's Republican Senate primary. Arianna noted that Giuliani's judgment in people "has not been stellar," a relevant factor when people are considering how much weight to give his endorsement of Rubio

Huff TV: Arianna, Giuliani Spar Over His Record, Bernie Kerik, Support For Marco Rubio (VIDEO)
 

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Gingrich: Obama is 'most radical president ever'

NEW ORLEANS – Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a potential presidential candidate in 2012, called Barack Obama on Thursday "the most radical president in American history" who oversees a "secular, socialist machine."
Gingrich reminded conservative activists why he was one of the nation's most polarizing leaders in the 1990s, opening the Southern Republican Leadership Conference with a biting assessment of Obama's policies.
"The most radical president in American history has now thrown down the gauntlet to the American people: 'I run a machine. I own Washington and there's nothing you can do about it,'" Gingrich said. He urged his fellow Republicans to stop what he called Obama's "secular, socialist machine."

Gingrich: Obama is 'most radical president ever' - Yahoo! News







The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree . . . and think 25 to life would be appropriate. Leno
 

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Coming from Gingrich, that really doesn't mean much. It's like Mr. Radical-Crazy Guy calling someone radical and crazy.
 

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For all Canadians here who may not know (I don't know for sure how much US politics is followed), Next Gingrich was the Republican Speaker of the House in the 1990s who led the impeachment of President Clinton, and was laughed off the national stage when Americans noticed the Clinton impeachment was ... kind of stupid.
 

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"For all Canadians here who may not know (I don't know for sure how much US politics is followed), Next Gingrich was the Republican Speaker of the House in the 1990s who led the impeachment of President Clinton, and was laughed off the national stage when Americans noticed the Clinton impeachment was ... kind of stupid."

And for all the people who are ignorant about history and politics, Winston Churchill, who saved the ass Brittain was defeated and laughed out of office. And to add insult to injury, the Royals who deserve life about as much as a cockroach did not even attend his funeral. Ignorance has no bounds.

History redeemed the reputation of Sir Winston Churchil. It will put the yahooes who try to demean Newt Gingrich the same place with those who demeaned Churchill.