Liberal phobia and the cause….

AnnaG

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I don't see where it makes any difference- all the local candidates will probably be told to toe the party line and one of the local candidates is going to get elected. There is not much use even considering who the leader is, we all know he's bound to be an A$$hole, so personally on the Federal level I don't much care which party gets in but between the four local guys who are going to be toeing the party line, I'd at least vote for the one who I think is the least of the four evils.
That's why we think it'd be cool to get rid of parties and have dozens of indies.
 

TenPenny

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That last paragraph is what creates hardship, in society, the ones who get shoved to the bottom are many, they need food, clothing, they need health care, they need housing, they need jobs. ...................when the poor suffer from these essentials the country or the politicians responsible don’t have much to be proud about, at the end of the day.

What I find interesting is the confession of one 'rich' person that they personally benefit, but don't feel guilty, although they are happy to blame the conservatives for abusing 'the poor' and making 'the rich' richer...but no mention of, say, donating all of that money to the poor to make up for it.

That's the attitude I love: I'm personally benefitting, and I feel it's wrong, so I won't DO anything about it, I'll just complain about the government.

I'm not sure it's the politicians who should be ashamed of themselves.
 

AnnaG

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What I find interesting is the confession of one 'rich' person that they personally benefit, but don't feel guilty, although they are happy to blame the conservatives for abusing 'the poor' and making 'the rich' richer...but no mention of, say, donating all of that money to the poor to make up for it.

That's the attitude I love: I'm personally benefitting, and I feel it's wrong, so I won't DO anything about it, I'll just complain about the government.

I'm not sure it's the politicians who should be ashamed of themselves.
But but but but the politicians do it and say it is ok so that's good enough for the rest of us, right?
 

ironsides

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Liberalism is bankrupting States like it is doing to countries in Europe. Liberalism is like a creeping fungus on life that steals from you with out any benefit other than to itself.

California, New York and other states are showing many of the same signs of debt overload that recently took Greece to the brink -- budgets that will not balance, accounting that masks debt, the use of derivatives to plug holes, and armies of retired public workers who are counting on benefits that are proving harder and harder to pay.

And states are responding in sometimes desperate ways, raising concerns that they, too, could face a debt crisis.
New Hampshire was recently ordered by its State Supreme Court to put back $110 million that it took from a medical malpractice insurance pool to balance its budget. Colorado tried, so far unsuccessfully, to grab a $500 million surplus from Pinnacol Assurance, a state workers' compensation insurer that was privatized in 2002. It wanted the money for its university system and seems likely to get a lesser amount, perhaps $200 million.

state-debt-woes-grow-too-big-to-camouflage: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance

 

SirJosephPorter

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What I find interesting is the confession of one 'rich' person that they personally benefit, but don't feel guilty, although they are happy to blame the conservatives for abusing 'the poor' and making 'the rich' richer...but no mention of, say, donating all of that money to the poor to make up for it.

That's the attitude I love: I'm personally benefitting, and I feel it's wrong, so I won't DO anything about it, I'll just complain about the government.

I'm not sure it's the politicians who should be ashamed of themselves.

Hey, if the government is foolish enough to give me money, I will take it. But why should I donate it all to charity? The right solution is to vote the government out of office, not to donate everything to charity and be done with it.

Donating everything to charity is not the solution, it does not solve the problem of transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich, which is happening big time under Harper. The solution is to vote Harper out of office, so that the transfer of wealth from the single mother on minimum wage to the rich billionaire playboy ceases.
 

TenPenny

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Hey, if the government is foolish enough to give me money, I will take it. But why should I donate it all to charity? The right solution is to vote the government out of office, not to donate everything to charity and be done with it.

Donating everything to charity is not the solution, it does not solve the problem of transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich, which is happening big time under Harper. The solution is to vote Harper out of office, so that the transfer of wealth from the single mother on minimum wage to the rich billionaire playboy ceases.

Indeed. The solution of the 'transfer of wealth from poor to rich' certainly would not include a self-described rich person donating this money to the poor.

That is totally unacceptable.

The correct solution is to blame someone else, and do nothing that requires any personal sacrifice or effort. That is the way, the light, the truth.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Liberalism is bankrupting States like it is doing to countries in Europe. Liberalism is like a creeping fungus on life that steals from you with out any benefit other than to itself.

California, New York and other states are showing many of the same signs of debt overload that recently took Greece to the brink -- budgets that will not balance, accounting that masks debt, the use of derivatives to plug holes, and armies of retired public workers who are counting on benefits that are proving harder and harder to pay.

And states are responding in sometimes desperate ways, raising concerns that they, too, could face a debt crisis.
New Hampshire was recently ordered by its State Supreme Court to put back $110 million that it took from a medical malpractice insurance pool to balance its budget. Colorado tried, so far unsuccessfully, to grab a $500 million surplus from Pinnacol Assurance, a state workers' compensation insurer that was privatized in 2002. It wanted the money for its university system and seems likely to get a lesser amount, perhaps $200 million.

state-debt-woes-grow-too-big-to-camouflage: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance

Europe is doing fine, ironsides. So is Canada. You give example of Greece. But what about Germany, France, Britain? Are they drowning in debt like Greece? Greece is a small country of 11 million population and as such forms a small part of Europe. Most of the European countries, while having debt (many of them smaller debt than USA) are far from drowning in debt or are on the brink.

Greece makes international news because it is a separate country. However you gave example of New York or California. Both are much bigger than Greece and have problem similar to Greece. They do not make international news because they are part of USA and not independent countries.

So you are magnifying problem faced by Greece all out of proportion and thereby implying that Europe is in trouble. Nothing of the sort. Most of European countries are doing just fine.

For that matter, what about Canada? According to Teabaggers, Canada would be at least a fully Socialist country, if not a fully Communist country. Socialist or Communist Canada is doing much better than USA.

It is not the liberals who are ruining USA; it is the Americans who are ruining USA.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Indeed. The solution of the 'transfer of wealth from poor to rich' certainly would not include a self-described rich person donating this money to the poor.

That is totally unacceptable.

The correct solution is to blame someone else, and do nothing that requires any personal sacrifice or effort. That is the way, the light, the truth.

For that to work, most wealthy people must agree to donate the money, an impossible task. A much better solution is to get rid fo the perpetrator, namely the Conservative government.
 

JLM

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Hey, if the government is foolish enough to give me money, I will take it. But why should I donate it all to charity? The right solution is to vote the government out of office, not to donate everything to charity and be done with it.

Donating everything to charity is not the solution, it does not solve the problem of transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich, which is happening big time under Harper. The solution is to vote Harper out of office, so that the transfer of wealth from the single mother on minimum wage to the rich billionaire playboy ceases.

So you don't think that the person who works hard, studies hard, invests well and is willing to take risks is deserving of wealth? As the old saying goes you can not do the poor one iota of good by hurting the rich. That is an old Socialist wives tale.
 

SirJosephPorter

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"But then the "religious right" would be without a home."

Of course, so would the immoral, atheist Left.

Most of the left is religious YJ, not Atheist. They just don't wear their religion on their sleeve, they don't claim that they have a monopoly on knowing what God wants, and that anybody who disagrees with them is the disciple of Devil (which is what religious right thinks).

Perhaps a more accurate designation may be 'self righteous right' and 'religious left'.
 

SirJosephPorter

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So you don't think that the person who works hard, studies hard, invests well and is willing to take risks is deserving of wealth? As the old saying goes you can not do the poor one iota of good by hurting the rich. That is an old Socialist wives tale.

Harper government is taking from the poor and giving to the rich. In my opinion that is wrong, though that is the classic conservative philosophy.
 

AnnaG

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Hey, if the government is foolish enough to give me money, I will take it. But why should I donate it all to charity? The right solution is to vote the government out of office, not to donate everything to charity and be done with it.

Donating everything to charity is not the solution, it does not solve the problem of transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich, which is happening big time under Harper. The solution is to vote Harper out of office, so that the transfer of wealth from the single mother on minimum wage to the rich billionaire playboy ceases.
roflmao As if the Glibs haven't practised the same thing.