Yeah well they sure sucked the choda last night, blowing a 2 - 0 lead with 3:33 left in the game.
I threw up in my mouth.:angryfire:
Victoria BC Police Brutality Video-Sickening
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Yeah well they sure sucked the choda last night, blowing a 2 - 0 lead with 3:33 left in the game.
I threw up in my mouth.:angryfire:
Pretty much. I think the RCMP stress professionalism more than city cops and besides that, most cities have their own cops so RCMP involvement in cities' internal matters is limited.
He did.
The 1st cop said down on the ground. The guy got on the ground. Sitting on the ground is down on the ground. The bald cop attacked him.
You're expecting someone that's had a few beers, is probably confused about what's going on enough, is being yelled at, to think clearly enough to think that "down on the ground" means "assume the position"? lol The guy was obviously compliant and was savagely attacked anyway. Normally, I'd expect that sort of treatment from some military regime in a dictatorship, but not here.
Egg Zachary.
Sitting on the ground is not considered down on the ground. You need to be prostrate.
Hell ... even on TV they give directions. This cop was just walking attitude - the type who gets good cops bad reps.
Unfortunately...not every civilian is a criminal or in law enforcement, and would
not know "get down on the ground" doesn't mean "get down on the ground" but
really means, "get down on the ground and lay down and prostrate yourself."
Perhaps following the "get down on the ground" when someone complies, could
be followed up with, "...and now face down, legs spread, with hand on the back
of your Head" or something along those lines...removing the obligation of the
person complying to commands to also have to read minds.
Now the guy below might know what the officier is thinking vrs what he says:
Much of the rest of the population would be forced to follow what is actually said
to them. Oh well....in that 57 seconds, we're all going to see what we're
preconceived to see it seems. I see an assault long after the need for it has come
and gone....and therefore it is not justified at that point. I've posted the Canadian
Criminal Code's applicable sections earlier where this could be justified if it
actually fit the situation....and it doesn't. That would be post #32 in this Thread.
Then you are completely uniformed on a number of issues
1 - We do not know all the facts - Was this person arrested on prior occasions and assaulted Police - Do you know? Do you know if he has a violent past - - Do you?
2 - The human condition - we can all snap for brief periods - long term stress is one indicator or precursor for this to happen. But that to you is reprehensible for a Police Officer - Robo Cop is a fantasy -
3 - You have no knowledge or understanding of what stresses Police operate under on a daily and long term basis -
4- You are just uninformed.
5 - You must be perfect as you believe people cannot snap even for a moment in time - So register and enroll as a Police Officer - You do not have it - How do i know that - Police learn to read situations and people to lessen the chances of violence - deescalate when possible - Never crossed your mind -
Am I being rude to you - no - I am being blunt - so do not take offense -
...as are most people uninformed. We're not cops. We hear the "kind constable" stuff. So what if that cop had a lousy day. That wasn't on the video ... nor is it visible to the people on the street when Terminator loses it and busts a head. That which is seen is that which is known. That is why there is this thing called discipline ... and his is screwed.
Lone WolfThe facts are we know little - We have seen the bad cops as in the Vancouver Airport Manslaughter at a minimum incident and Rodney King and other - Yet human nature means we can all fall prey to a hasty judgement and a final opinion based upon few facts - I in this case prefer to wait for more information to become public - No one died - So I can wait - Is that unreasonable. Are the points I brought forward unreasonable?
You can wait all you want. This is here and now - just as the camera caught. Nobody gets a second chance to make a first impression. The cop may have had a rough day. True ... but nobody but he knows it. Holding cells are full of people who went down on hasty and ill-informed judgements
We're all Human and we all deal with Shyte everyday. Lately I've been
plying the trade of a Plumber....& trust me, I deal with my share daily.
In another life (career life, that is) I spent the better part of two decades
(off & on) as a Second Party Collector (=Repoman) and have dealt with
more than anyone's share of grief....and yet I've never had to boot-f**k
anyone on the job no matter what kind of day I've had. I've been assaulted
several times, chased with a table leg on two separate occasions, had a
guy try and run me down with his truck (I was on foot) up in Pelican Narrows,
and have had to talk my way back to my truck with a hunting rifle pointed at
my chest....and have had hundreds of threats, racial names and what have
you thrown my way on the job. Still never put the boots to someone like what's
seen in that video. Regardless of the stresses anyone operates with on a
daily (&/or long term) basis...this is still wrong, and criminal.
There are many Great Cops out there, but we're not seeing them in this video.
If the urge to throttle someone is beyond your ability to control due to job stress,
it's long past time to change occupations.
Would this same behavior be acceptable if this was anyone not in Law
Enforcement assaulting someone, in direct conflict with the Criminal Code?
Maybe these officers will get a walk on their behavour, but it shouldn't be an
automatic walk just becouse of what they do for a living.
plying the trade of a Plumber....& trust me, I deal with my share daily.
In another life (career life, that is) I spent the better part of two decades
(off & on) as a Second Party Collector (=Repoman) and have dealt with
more than anyone's share of grief....and yet I've never had to boot-f**k
anyone on the job no matter what kind of day I've had. I've been assaulted
several times, chased with a table leg on two separate occasions, had a
guy try and run me down with his truck (I was on foot) up in Pelican Narrows,
and have had to talk my way back to my truck with a hunting rifle pointed at
my chest....and have had hundreds of threats, racial names and what have
you thrown my way on the job. Still never put the boots to someone like what's
seen in that video. Regardless of the stresses anyone operates with on a
daily (&/or long term) basis...this is still wrong, and criminal.
There are many Great Cops out there, but we're not seeing them in this video.
If the urge to throttle someone is beyond your ability to control due to job stress,
it's long past time to change occupations.
Would this same behavior be acceptable if this was anyone not in Law
Enforcement assaulting someone, in direct conflict with the Criminal Code?
Maybe these officers will get a walk on their behavour, but it shouldn't be an
automatic walk just becouse of what they do for a living.
Alright, the next time I am doing my military duty and you are nearby I guess it will be ok for me to snap for just a moment. You weren't blunt, you were speaking with absolutely no knowledge of the subject or the person you were speaking about.
That bald cop's behavior is inexcusable and reprehensible. The dood needs a major attitude overhaul.
Vanisle, you beat me to it...but to expand on what you've said:
I hate to say this again but.....whatever happened before the video started
wasn't happening when the video was taken, therefore not making it
applicable to the behavior of the police when the video was shot.
Was the situation under control when the video was taken? Did the suspects
comply with the verbal orders given? These questions are applicable to the
video that was taken.
Police are not Judge, Jury, and Executioners. Police are in place as Law
Enforcement (to enforce the Law, not break it). Are Police Officers as
Professionals not to be held to the same standards as other Professionals
in other fields?
If this wasn't a Police Officer abusing his authority as seen in the video, but
a School Teacher beating the Hell out of a Student after some poor behavior
was over and done with, would the same excuses be made to justify the
disregard of the Criminal Code of Canada? What if it was a Nurse kicking
the living shyte out of a Patient for some sleight, after the fact...would that be
OK and excuses made to justify it?
Professionals are either Professionals, or they shouldn't be in that Profession
....and those in that Profession would oust them in a heartbeat to preserve the
integrity of the Profession, wouldn't they? Remove their certification, etc...right?
I hate to say this again but.....whatever happened before the video started
wasn't happening when the video was taken, therefore not making it
applicable to the behavior of the police when the video was shot.
Was the situation under control when the video was taken? Did the suspects
comply with the verbal orders given? These questions are applicable to the
video that was taken.
Police are not Judge, Jury, and Executioners. Police are in place as Law
Enforcement (to enforce the Law, not break it). Are Police Officers as
Professionals not to be held to the same standards as other Professionals
in other fields?
If this wasn't a Police Officer abusing his authority as seen in the video, but
a School Teacher beating the Hell out of a Student after some poor behavior
was over and done with, would the same excuses be made to justify the
disregard of the Criminal Code of Canada? What if it was a Nurse kicking
the living shyte out of a Patient for some sleight, after the fact...would that be
OK and excuses made to justify it?
Professionals are either Professionals, or they shouldn't be in that Profession
....and those in that Profession would oust them in a heartbeat to preserve the
integrity of the Profession, wouldn't they? Remove their certification, etc...right?
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While it's possible there were mitigating circumstances (maybe the cop caught the guy earlier in the evening scr****g his wife), but even that is not an excuse to beat on the guy (her maybe).
Was this from a bar fight or something, even before the guy is told to get on the ground there is somebody across the street in the 'proper position'?
From what I can tell it is enough to start an investigation, one morte question , that cop in the yellow looks to be about 7ft tall and is he from a 'special dept' cause he is dressed slightly differently than the 'body handlers'?
From what I can tell it is enough to start an investigation, one morte question , that cop in the yellow looks to be about 7ft tall and is he from a 'special dept' cause he is dressed slightly differently than the 'body handlers'?