Is Jesus A Prophet According To The Old Testament?

SirJosephPorter

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SJP - your remarks, "But they change, they adopt where they have to. That is why you won’t see Hindus resorting to honor killing here or in USA, you won’t see them taking part in terrorist activities, recruiting for terrorist organizations etc. Where their customs conflict with the laws and constitution of their adopted country, they change their customs. Arranged marriage is one such custom, very few second generation Hindus practice it." are interesting but can you back them up with statistics or are your comments merely anecdotal? Also, I agree that it's nice that for the most part Practitioners of the Hindu faith do not bring the more adversarial aspects with them when they move abroad, but I would think that the true measure of an 'evolving' rather than stagnant religion, is one that treats its practitioners on the home front with respect, for example women? From the reports I have read from womens organizations in India, women and girls are still fighting for a decent life - not to mention the dalits? for a religion that is 'evolved' it seems that it evolves only when its followers are on foreign soil, otherwise they remain the same.

I don’t have any statistics, DHW. It is just that we know many doctors from India and from Pakistan, so I can see the contrast quite clearly.

Now it may well be that we see only the intellectuals, the upper middle class, and my view may be skewed for that reason.

However, the Hindus I know are only mildly religious, many of their children, the second generation, have married outside the faith, outside their race, many are married to Caucasians.

We are good friends with a couple. One of their daughters became an Anesthetist. She has a good job, makes good money, but no husband. She recently had a daughter by artificial insemination.

The grandparents were tickled pink, they were as proud as can be. They spend a couple of months with their daughter to help her out; they threw a big party in celebration here. They invited us; there were many Indians at the party.

Such a thing would be unheard of in a Muslim community. The Muslim doctors I know are much more conservative, traditional than Hindu doctors. Particularly, the second generation Hindus are practically westernized, though many of them do practice their own religion.

So no I don’t have any statistics, my evidence is largely anecdotal.

And you make a valid point about how Hinduism is practiced in India. In many parts of India, there hasn’t been any change for hundreds of years. However, the intellectuals, the upper middle class, the clergy, they all evolve in their thinking and that is why Hinduism evolves.

So if you look at villages, in many places you won’t find much change compared to the old days. However if you look at the cities, you will find huge change compared to say 100 or 200 years ago including the way they dress (or so I was told).

But still that is a big improvement over Islam, where things seem to be going in reverse all over the world.
 

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DHW, let me give you another example as to how Hinduism evolves.

We attended a wedding last year, he was son of a couple we know. He was doing his residency in Pediatrics. He was marrying a white girl, but they had a traditional Hindu wedding.

The priest said something in Sanskrit and then explained it in English (he spoke very fluent English). He told the bride, from now on, you must get your husband’s permission to visit your parents, that is what our religion says.

Then he paused for a second and continued “Well, we don’t live in dark ages here, you can visit your parents any time you want. Just be sure of inform your husband, that is all.”

This was the priest speaking. I just cannot imagine a Muslim Imam or Mullah speaking like that, putting his own interpretation on a religious text.

The Hindu priest brought the ancient custom into modern times; a Mullah would have insisted that the wife must get her husband’s permission to visit her parents.
 

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It is paradoxical, isn't it JLM, that our society is so "race conscious," that we do not recognize members of our own "race."
 

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It is paradoxical, isn't it JLM, that our society is so "race conscious," that we do not recognize members of our own "race."

That's true but then if they shaved off those beards that might help them be recognized. But I guess that's their right under the Charter. :smile:
 

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I think aboriginals are from China.

I sometime watch Aboriginal Peoples Television Network or APTN and some of their shows they talk in their native languages and it sounds closer to the Chinese language
 

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I think aboriginals are from China.

I sometime watch Aboriginal Peoples Television Network or APTN and some of their shows they talk in their native languages and it sounds closer to the Chinese language

I am not being cute, but I do not know what you mean by aboriginal peoples?
Inuit, for example, and their current relatives in Siberia, in fact, speak dialects of the same language. But you must realize the Inuit are recent Canadians.

American Indian Languages: The ... - Google Books
 

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I am not being cute, but I do not know what you mean by aboriginal peoples?
Inuit, for example, and their current relatives in Siberia, in fact, speak dialects of the same language. But you must realize the Inuit are recent Canadians.

American Indian Languages: The ... - Google Books
I kind of lost interest in the article after I read the author say that American native languages are spoken from Siberia to Greenland south to Tierra del Fuego. "American" is a tag used for peoples of North and South America, not Asia or Greenland. IE, Yakut being an American language seems a bit incongruous.
 

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I kind of lost interest in the article after I read the author say that American native languages are spoken from Siberia to Greenland south to Tierra del Fuego. "American" is a tag used for peoples of North and South America, not Asia or Greenland. IE, Yakut being an American language seems a bit incongruous.

Are you claiming that the Inuit of Greenland don't speak a dialect that is understood by Inuit in NA, and that Yakut is unrelated to NA inuit dialects?