Is Jesus A Prophet According To The Old Testament?
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There is a lot of meaning, messages in anything that has stood the test of time.
Heaven can clean out stuff like that over 3 generations if They wish.
That is a big assumption. A myth cleaning up a myth. Sounds like the stuff fairy tales are made of. If you are going to believe in something, at least investigate its validity. Taking anything on blind faith is to put on blinders. We all have our delusions but reality will prevail in spite of them.
How nice of you to let us know that our beliefs are a myth and taken on blind faith. Is there anything else that we need to know about our lives that is wrong?
You have faith that there is no God, how is that not blind faith?
Islam seems to attempt to get people to ditch other religions, like Christianity, as taught by the early church fathers, in order to be 'saved'. You can't get 'more saved' than a Christian (the sheep kind, the goat kind are as dead as any other sinner).
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lol,
evolving is not for Religion; if it evolves, it will change . When it changes, it doesn't have the originality as the other religions before Islam. We consider Islam as eternal and universal already,it doesn't need to change.
What needs to evolve is just human being, who are performers of Islam or the others. but what i mean with evoluation is that people should change their mind or habits. Islam in Turkey is not the same in Iran. so the negativeness doesn't stem from Islam itself.
If people evolve enough, ISLAM could show what it means in fact , so i don't care about muslims or non-muslims much because i don't want to spend my precious time just thinking over how people handle Islam or other important universal things which i am also interested in.
If people can also get rid of their prejudices , leave following and expecting others evolve , the life would be easier in some respects.
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lol,
Depends upon which religion you are talking about. Hinduism is a good example of a religion that evolves. It is thousands of years old, and it has been evolving through the ages.
That is why it has survived for so long. Hinduism is contemporary with ancient Greek religion, ancient Roman religion, ancient Egyptian Gods etc. They all have died out, with the exception of Hinduism. About 1 billion people practice Hinduism today, and one of the reasons it has survived so long is that it has evolved through the ages.
Indeed, that is why Hindus can blend with the local population anywhere they go. They don’t make waves, they adopt some of the ways of the country, they keep some of their own ways.
But they change, they adopt where they have to. That is why you won’t see Hindus resorting to honor killing here or in USA, you won’t see them taking part in terrorist activities, recruiting for terrorist organizations etc. Where their customs conflict with the laws and constitution of their adopted country, they change their customs. Arranged marriage is one such custom, very few second generation Hindus practice it.
This is in contrast with Islam. Many Muslims still practice honour killings, they would like to introduce Sharia here in the West, many want to keep their women in the veil etc. And arranged marriages are quite common, even in second generation Muslims (sometimes against the wishes of the girl).
Hinduism is a classic example of a religion which evolves, and Islam is the classic example of a religion which refuses to.
You really don't pay attention, do you? If god is a truly benevolent god, then why would it stifle our minds with rule books? If it created us in its own image, why would it not give us free reign to create ourselves? Why all the dos and don'ts and kiss my asses? If we are supposed to have free will, why are we not allowed to use it?
The bible was written by men to suit a political purpose, nothing more, nothing less. The deity therein is a fabrication, as in false god. The doctrines set forth have nothing to do with anything. There may be some useful insights into the human condition but that is purely by accident.
Thank you, most people say I read too much into things. Like 'all flesh will see salvation' as including you. It should a capital 'I' in it. Who said He was benevolent, none of the 66 books show Him 'without emotional pleas' directed towards men. The kneeling part is for our protection. His sword cuts a swath around the earth that is 40" off the ground, if we are on just one knee the sword is above out heads, if we don't kneel the sword takes our life. Clear signs so you will know which path leads where.
The Christian false doctrines are an example how lax the ones in the pews are, they are given ample warnings about what not to allow. That is not for their own good.
I haven't seen any swords 40" off the ground wielded by invisible creatures. That sounds like a faerie tale.
Ya! I think he makes this crap up as he goes. Must be good home brew he is into though.
That was the simple version, the real deal is a little more exciting for everybody involved.
Joe:2:2-11:
A day of darkness and of gloominess,
a day of clouds and of thick darkness,
as the morning spread upon the mountains:
a great people and a strong; t
here hath not been ever the like,
neither shall be any more after it,
even to the years of many generations.
A fire devoureth before them;
and behind them a flame burneth:
the land is as the garden of Eden before them,
and behind them a desolate wilderness;
yea,
and nothing shall escape them.
The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses;
and as horsemen, s
o shall they run.
Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap,
like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble,
as a strong people set in battle array.
Before their face the people shall be much pained:
all faces shall gather blackness.
They shall run like mighty men;
they shall climb the wall like men of war;
and they shall march every one on his ways,
and they shall not break their ranks:
Neither shall one thrust another;
they shall walk every one in his path:
and when they fall upon the sword,
they shall not be wounded.
They shall run to and fro in the city;
they shall run upon the wall,
they shall climb up upon the houses;
they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
The earth shall quake before them;
the heavens shall tremble:
the sun and the moon shall be dark,
and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army:
for his camp is very great:
for he is strong that executeth his word:
for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible;
and who can abide it?
Way to go Sherlock! Nuther cupa Arctic Rum me Hearty.
First you judge the audience then you respond with a reply that suits them, I don't see either of you as being, open minded to say the least. Ever heard the expressio "bb in a boxcar'? pretty small when compared by size. You faith shoved up a gnat's ass would be about the same ratio. lol
SJP - your remarks, "But they change, they adopt where they have to. That is why you won’t see Hindus resorting to honor killing here or in USA, you won’t see them taking part in terrorist activities, recruiting for terrorist organizations etc. Where their customs conflict with the laws and constitution of their adopted country, they change their customs. Arranged marriage is one such custom, very few second generation Hindus practice it." are interesting but can you back them up with statistics or are your comments merely anecdotal? Also, I agree that it's nice that for the most part Practitioners of the Hindu faith do not bring the more adversarial aspects with them when they move abroad, but I would think that the true measure of an 'evolving' rather than stagnant religion, is one that treats its practitioners on the home front with respect, for example women? From the reports I have read from womens organizations in India, women and girls are still fighting for a decent life - not to mention the dalits? for a religion that is 'evolved' it seems that it evolves only when its followers are on foreign soil, otherwise they remain the same.