Terrorists will strike America again

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Americans should understand that preventing every attack is simply an unattainable goal.

By Gregory F. Treverton
January 19, 2010

The Obama administration's mea culpa over the failure to prevent the attempted bombing of a U.S. airliner bound for Detroit on Christmas Day is understandable but misses the point. Yes, the United States can do better at catching would-be attackers; that will always be the case. But the truth is that there is no absolute security -- short of conceding victory to the terrorists by making it impossible for foreigners to visit the U.S., hellish for Americans to fly and difficult for all to live normal lives.

America's tolerance for terrorism cannot be zero. Although we obviously aim to do as much as possible, preventing every attack is an unattainable goal. The country needs to steel itself for the near-certainty that there will at some point be another major strike on U.S. territory.

Even if the U.S. curtailed civil liberties to a degree most citizens would find intolerable, sooner or later some suicidal terrorist would find a way to manage a successful attack. The greatest threat may come from lone wolves with scanty records, as is apparently the case with the accused Ft. Hood shooter, or from someone who acts alone even if trained and equipped by one of Al Qaeda's offshoots, as the would-be Detroit bomber allegedly did.

The Christmas Day episode highlights three critical points.

First is how much progress U.S. intelligence has made. The 9/11 attacks were blamed on a failure to "connect the dots." But foiling that plot would have required not just creative leaps of foresight by intelligence analysts, but also the political will to take draconian actions to prevent a large-scale attack organized from abroad on U.S. soil (something that hadn't happened since Pearl Harbor and was therefore almost unthinkable).

By contrast, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab and his alleged Yemeni helpers were on the U.S. radar screen. Simply singling him out for a body search might have done the job. The intelligence community certainly failed to connect the dots, but at least this time it had the dots.

Second, the Christmas Day plot demonstrates that much of what passes for security is a waste of time and money. It often seems designed more to bother people than to prevent terrorism. The mass screening of departing passengers in Amsterdam was, almost by definition, too little to catch the "underwear bomber" and probably too much for his innocent fellow passengers.

Finding the right balance is terribly difficult, but what's needed is less mass screening of all those proverbial grandmothers. Racial and ethnic profiling is not only provocative, it is also ineffective, because it produces far too many "false positives" -- people subjected to secondary screening without cause. Rather, what we need is more screening and profiling based on intelligence to provide grounds for suspicion (which should have included the would-be Detroit bomber) or on suspicious behavior (like having no luggage or paying cash for the ticket).

Third, the public furor over the foiled plot shows that more perspective on terrorism is essential. Terrorism frightens Americans because it seems so random. But it does not kill many. In the five years after 2001, the number of Americans killed per year in terrorist attacks worldwide was never more than 100, and the toll some years was barely in double figures. Compare that with an average of 63 by tornadoes, 692 in bicycle accidents and 41,616 in motor-vehicle-related accidents.

Calling another attack "intolerable" is wishful thinking, not making policy. Some honest talk would be useful, so that when the next major attack comes -- as it surely will -- we can respond rationally and not just emotionally.

Soon after 9/11, I was seated at dinner next to former Defense Secretary Harold Brown. I asked him how much of a threat to the U.S. the attacks represented. His answer surprised me at the time, but he was right: On a scale of 1 to 10, the Cuban missile crisis of 1962 was an 8, he said; 9/11 was a 3. Those who lost their lives and their loved ones suffered mightily, and, as with any disaster, the psychological effect was magnified by the number of people who were killed at the same time. But for the nation, it was a blow, not a mortal threat.

When it comes to weathering terror attacks, the reaction of Israelis is instructive. After every bombing, they clean up as fast as possible. Thus, life can go on and the terrorists won't be given a victory. By contrast, Americans let fear of terrorism stop life. So the terrorists win.

America's security and intelligence apparatus can always do better. But it will never be able to stop every terrorist plot -- a grim reality Americans need to grasp.
 

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Why are you are busy worrying about far away boogiemen who play a role in the TV show called America?

Why not keep your mind focused on reality like dodging drunks who text and drive, your shoplifting addicted mother, pigs who call themselves men and dads but aren't, the local death cult church trying to lure in kids with hot dogs and cola, racial inequality, illiteracy, a lack of role models and mentors for dad-less kids, pollution, lifestyle change, education or any other damn thing that will do some real good, right here ,right now?
 

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Why are you are busy worrying about far away boogiemen who play a role in the TV show called America?

Why not keep your mind focused on reality like dodging drunks who text and drive, your shoplifting addicted mother, pigs who call themselves men and dads but aren't, the local death cult church trying to lure in kids with hot dogs and cola, racial inequality, illiteracy, a lack of role models and mentors for dad-less kids, pollution, lifestyle change, education or any other damn thing that will do some real good, right here ,right now?

Because that might require some effort to be exerted. Far easier to constantly post critical comments on everything, that way you're not bothered to actually do anything constructive.
 

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Because that might require some effort to be exerted. Far easier to constantly post critical comments on everything, that way you're not bothered to actually do anything constructive.
They could go for a walk or park ass on the front step and text thus filling the streets making it extremely hard for criminals to have free reign.

Get a laptop and reduce crime.
 

petros

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But the truth is that there is no absolute security -- short of conceding victory to the terrorists by making it impossible for foreigners to visit the U.S
All this sounds familiar. Maybe you've been time warped to 1917 Moscow?

Maybe the writers of the TV show America can script in yet another level of enforcement by simply going into a closed socialist society under martial law?

That'll fix them Eh Rabs once and for all if they do that won't it?
 

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All this sounds familiar. Maybe you've been time warped to 1917 Moscow?

Maybe the writers of the TV show America can script in yet another level of enforcement by simply going into a closed socialist society under martial law?

That'll fix them Eh Rabs once and for all if they do that won't it?

What Haiti needs is to conduct a voodoo terrorism act so the US will invade the country and rebuild it. :cool::lol::angry3::p
 
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No, terrorism won't stop.
No, American won't be the only target.
No, with some people the hatred against the US won't stop because it has become their fetish. I like a little teasing on bodyscapes with feathers, myself. :)

Watch out! That boogeyman south of the border might getcha! BOO!
 

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Hi AnnaG!.............................By AnnaG! :smile:



No, terrorism won't stop.
No, American won't be the only target.
No, with some people the hatred against the US won't stop because it has become their fetish. I like a little teasing on bodyscapes with feathers, myself. :)

Watch out! That boogeyman south of the border might getcha! BOO!
 

JBeee

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Great sense of humour Petros.
Holy crap I thought all that stuff you mentioned was raked over a dozen times in this neighbourhood by now!
Ah well...just lightening the mood. :cool:


Why are you are busy worrying about far away boogiemen who play a role in the TV show called America?

Why not keep your mind focused on reality like dodging drunks who text and drive, your shoplifting addicted mother, pigs who call themselves men and dads but aren't, the local death cult church trying to lure in kids with hot dogs and cola, racial inequality, illiteracy, a lack of role models and mentors for dad-less kids, pollution, lifestyle change, education or any other damn thing that will do some real good, right here ,right now?
 

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Guess a women just can't find a good terrorist these days.

'JihadJane' Grew Frustrated When Alleged Co-Conspirators Wouldn't Move Fast Enough.

by Mark Hosenball
Colleen R. LaRose, the alleged American Islamic militant who used the Internet nom de guerre "JihadJane," traveled to Ireland last year to meet a group of Internet acquaintances, expecting they would join her as co-conspirators in an alleged murder plot, according to sources in the United States and Ireland who are familiar with the investigation. But when she landed in Ireland, she discovered that her supposed collaborators weren't nearly as keen as she allegedly was on actually carrying out the plot, according to a U.S. official who asked for anonymity when discussing sensitive information. The official says that on meeting the group, LaRose decided they were "all talk and no action," and she flew home to Pennsylvania, disappointed after spending some time with them, having concluded that they "weren't willing to move forward."
In an indictment released yesterday, federal prosecutors in Philadelphia accused LaRose of a series of terrorist offenses, including conspiring to murder an unnamed resident of Sweden. As we reported, her arrest was quickly linked by law-enforcement sources to the arrests in southern Ireland of seven unnamed individuals on murder conspiracy charges. U.S. and Irish news reports alleged that the target of the plot was Lars Vilks, a Swedish cartoonist who began receiving death threats in 2007 after a Swedish newspaper published a caricature he drew of the Prophet Muhammad with the body of a dog. A Qaeda faction in Iraq reportedly offered a $100,000 bounty to anyone who murdered Vilks.
Those arrested ranged in age from mid-20s to late 40s, according to a statement by Ireland's national police force, the Garda Síochána. A U.S. official has given NEWSWEEK confirmation of a report in the Irish Times that at least one of the suspects detained in Ireland was an American, but neither Irish nor American authorities have released further information about their identities.
'JihadJane' Grew Frustrated When Alleged Co-Conspirators Wouldn't Move Fast Enough - Declassified Blog - Newsweek.com
 

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Guess a women just can't find a good terrorist these days.

'JihadJane' Grew Frustrated When Alleged Co-Conspirators Wouldn't Move Fast Enough.

by Mark Hosenball
Colleen R. LaRose, the alleged American Islamic militant who used the Internet nom de guerre "JihadJane," traveled to Ireland last year to meet a group of Internet acquaintances, expecting they would join her as co-conspirators in an alleged murder plot, according to sources in the United States and Ireland who are familiar with the investigation. But when she landed in Ireland, she discovered that her supposed collaborators weren't nearly as keen as she allegedly was on actually carrying out the plot, according to a U.S. official who asked for anonymity when discussing sensitive information. The official says that on meeting the group, LaRose decided they were "all talk and no action," and she flew home to Pennsylvania, disappointed after spending some time with them, having concluded that they "weren't willing to move forward."
In an indictment released yesterday, federal prosecutors in Philadelphia accused LaRose of a series of terrorist offenses, including conspiring to murder an unnamed resident of Sweden. As we reported, her arrest was quickly linked by law-enforcement sources to the arrests in southern Ireland of seven unnamed individuals on murder conspiracy charges. U.S. and Irish news reports alleged that the target of the plot was Lars Vilks, a Swedish cartoonist who began receiving death threats in 2007 after a Swedish newspaper published a caricature he drew of the Prophet Muhammad with the body of a dog. A Qaeda faction in Iraq reportedly offered a $100,000 bounty to anyone who murdered Vilks.
Those arrested ranged in age from mid-20s to late 40s, according to a statement by Ireland's national police force, the Garda Síochána. A U.S. official has given NEWSWEEK confirmation of a report in the Irish Times that at least one of the suspects detained in Ireland was an American, but neither Irish nor American authorities have released further information about their identities.
'JihadJane' Grew Frustrated When Alleged Co-Conspirators Wouldn't Move Fast Enough - Declassified Blog - Newsweek.com
So they can get charged with conspiracy to commit murder (terror, whatever) when it is said they 'refused' to go along with 'the plan'?

Some divorce Lawyer is going to love that ruling. Guilty of adultery because you didn't jump into bed with 'the other woman'. lol
 

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"Terrorists will strike America again " means that America has plans to attack again ,
politics really does good job.
 

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America's tolerance for terrorism cannot be zero. Although we obviously aim to do as much as possible, preventing every attack is an unattainable goal.

You know, strictly speaking it is true that the US may not be able to stop every single terror attack (especially when you factor in homegrown ones by people like the Unibomber or Timothy McVeigh) but this statement/article is also defeatist BS. We can't stop all acts of terrorism, just like we can't stop all murders or robberies or any other major crimes. That doesn't mean we stop trying. That doesn't mean we just lay down and let people rob, assault or murder us without trying to prevent it. Aiming for perfection is the only way to attain it, and it is up to the American people to decide what steps they wish to take to that end, not a bunch of Ameri-phobes in Canada or anywhere else.