Do You Think Canada Chokes Alot

Ogu

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Looks like Stevie I. and the boys read this forum. Pronger didn't get much ice time at all until Canada was ahead of Germany by 6-1. Still, some young gun lost his place on this team to Pronger. Think about the experience this younger player could have brought to our next Olympics.
....onwards and upwards. Go Canada go!
 

#juan

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I too believe that Canada has under-achieved in thses Olympics. The reasons are many, in my opinion.
First of all, the idiot that came up with th

Absolutely, one hundred percent drivel. We can be very proud of every one of our athletes. These people are giving a hundred percent. Sometimes that total effort gives a better performance. Sometimes total effort causes the athletes to beat themselves. Saying they choke is stupid, crude, and insulting. Our athletes owe us their best effort. Nothing more.
 

gerryh

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Absolutely, one hundred percent drivel. We can be very proud of every one of our athletes. These people are giving a hundred percent. Sometimes that total effort gives a better performance. Sometimes total effort causes the athletes to beat themselves. Saying they choke is stupid, crude, and insulting. Our athletes owe us their best effort. Nothing more.


The athletes don't "owe" us anything. They owe to themselves to give their best and that is all.
 

JLM

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The athletes don't "owe" us anything. They owe to themselves to give their best and that is all.

Well that's right, there's absolutely too much carping and too much focus on the # of medals. It was sickening way a lot of posters were denigrating the hockey game Sunday night, when there was really very little wrong with team Canada's play- Brodeur let in a soft one or two and Miller for the U.S. was playing sh*t hot - end of story that's all there was to it. Like I said before if you think you are a loser you are and if you think other people are losers you DEFINITELY are.
 

#juan

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The athletes don't "owe" us anything. They owe to themselves to give their best and that is all.

Bull!

Canada has paid for trainers and training facilities. Canada has paid for travel to the games. Canada will pay for their food and lodging while at the games. What about the huge security bill? These athletes certainly owe us and themselves their best effort
 

gerryh

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Bull!

Canada has paid for trainers and training facilities. Canada has paid for travel to the games. Canada will pay for their food and lodging while at the games. What about the huge security bill? These athletes certainly owe us and themselves their best effort


well....... there ya go..... since athletes from other Countries train here in Canada, use Canadian facilities paid for by Canadians........ they should......what...... give their worst so Canadian athletes win?........ since we did pay for all this stuff...... they owe it to us...right?

anything else that anybody in particular owes to you juan?
 

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I'm so looking forward to tonight's game, nothing better then a Russia-Canada match.

I'm also hoping that one of the Canadians give Ovechkin an attitude adjustment, I would love to see one of the big D drive him through the boards.
 

#juan

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anything else that anybody in particular owes to you juan?

Yes. You owe it to the forum to think a little before you type the drivel you pound out. I said the athletes owed us and themselves. Should have said owed their country and themselves but there is no difference. Now go away and troll somewhere else.
 

gerryh

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Yes. You owe it to the forum to think a little before you type the drivel you pound out. I said the athletes owed us and themselves. Should have said owed their country and themselves but there is no difference. Now go away and troll somewhere else.


Up yours.... that is your standard response when someone doesn't agree with you.

The athletes owe themselves, that's it. If THEY feel they owe others, that is entirely up to them. At no time should them be made to feel, or pressured into thinking that they OWE anyone anything. As far as I am concerned, it is EXTREMELY selfish for you or anyone else to expect ANYTHING from these young people.
 

#juan

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Up yours.... that is your standard response when someone doesn't agree with you.

The athletes owe themselves, that's it. If THEY feel they owe others, that is entirely up to them. At no time should them be made to feel, or pressured into thinking that they OWE anyone anything. As far as I am concerned, it is EXTREMELY selfish for you or anyone else to expect ANYTHING from these young people.

First, I try not to swear at people or offer insults.

99 percent of the athletes are playing for their countries. Why do you think just about every winner grabs his/her countries flag and runs around the stadium or track with it? Why is there a sea of flags in the crowds from the countries currently competing? Without the patriotism would there even be an Olympics?
 

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The Canadian Olympic team has been training under an "Own the Podium" program for 5 years.
Prior to that Canadian Olympic teams were notoriously underfunded.
To look at it from a Fed political perspective under the Trudeau Liberals Canadian Olympic funding was slashed and Chretien then refused to increase it.

Because of our less than stellar winter Olympic results the Fed Liberals under Paul Martin dramatically increased spending for winter Olympic training,coaching, equipment and facilities.
The Fed Conservatives under Steven Harper continued to support this program and funding.
And here we are.

The Canadian "Own the Podium" program pumped between $110 and $157 million additional dollars into Canada's Olympic teams.
Canadian winter Olympic athletes are now very well funded and equipped.
"Own the Podium" was not something that Canada dreamed up but a focused program designed to dramatically increase the number of medals and standing increases a nation achieves on an international athletic level.
Canada just copied the name and program goals from other nations that had previously used the technique on their national sporting teams.

Is it worth it?
In Canada's case, I personally, am unsure.
A more socialist minded individual (like Trudeau) would say the money was better spent on schools, increased minimum wage and better funding to the poor and aboriginal peoples.
A right winger would rather see the money spent on tax cuts for all and faster more deadly jets for the military.

Personally I really don't know if most Canadian tax payers will feel that we got value for the dollar spent.
In Turin we did sorta OK with minimal funding.
I think funding in the future will be cut back to more historical levels.
Trex
 

JLM

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Bull!

Canada has paid for trainers and training facilities. Canada has paid for travel to the games. Canada will pay for their food and lodging while at the games. What about the huge security bill? These athletes certainly owe us and themselves their best effort

Right on #Juan- it's what's called gratitude.
 

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Up yours.... that is your standard response when someone doesn't agree with you.

The athletes owe themselves, that's it. If THEY feel they owe others, that is entirely up to them. At no time should them be made to feel, or pressured into thinking that they OWE anyone anything. As far as I am concerned, it is EXTREMELY selfish for you or anyone else to expect ANYTHING from these young people.

I happen to agree with you, gerry. Our athletes don't OWE us anything but to give it their all which from what I have seen is what they are doing.

Were I to ask anything of them, it would be that they sing along with our national anthem when receiving a medal.

GO, CANADA, GO. :canada:
 

JLM

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I happen to agree with you, gerry. Our athletes don't OWE us anything but to give it their all which from what I have seen is what they are doing.

Were I to ask anything of them, it would be that they sing along with our national anthem when receiving a medal.

GO, CANADA, GO. :canada:

Sorry Mowich and Gerry but I don't think it would be putting them out too, much just to show some gratitude, unless of course they've been completely self sufficient through the entire procedure.
 

gerryh

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First, I try not to swear at people or offer insults.

99 percent of the athletes are playing for their countries. Why do you think just about every winner grabs his/her countries flag and runs around the stadium or track with it? Why is there a sea of flags in the crowds from the countries currently competing? Without the patriotism would there even be an Olympics?


what does patriotism have to do with the expectation that they "owe" us anything?


as for your first statement...... I try not to bomb the crap out of people or cheer those that do....... guess we both are stuck with living with things we don't like.
 

gerryh

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Sorry Mowich and Gerry but I don't think it would be putting them out too, much just to show some gratitude, unless of course they've been completely self sufficient through the entire procedure.


Oh? do you feel that any of the athletes competing for Canada has been in-gratuitous?
 

Mowich

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Sorry Mowich and Gerry but I don't think it would be putting them out too, much just to show some gratitude, unless of course they've been completely self sufficient through the entire procedure.

Well, JLM, from the interviews I have seen they do make a point of thanking us. Time after time, I have listened to our medal winners thank Canada for the support given them, mentioning the Own the Podium program especially. When they don't win, I have heard those who are interviewed say they are sorry they let Canada down.
 

#juan

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Sorry Mowich and Gerry but I don't think it would be putting them out too, much just to show some gratitude, unless of course they've been completely self sufficient through the entire procedure.

I don't need or want gratitude. If the country is going to fork out many hundreds of millions of dollars, what I expect is the best effort from our athletes.
 

AnnaG

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I run. A lot. Some days I can run like a race horse. Other days I can only run like a Percheron. It's just the way things go. Those people are trained to shove aside anything that is bugging them, any thoughts like "I don't want to compete today", and to just do the event as best they can. Mistakes happen and some miss a step or something; it happens. Choking isn't in the cards, IMO.
 

Francis2004

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First, I try not to swear at people or offer insults.

99 percent of the athletes are playing for their countries. Why do you think just about every winner grabs his/her countries flag and runs around the stadium or track with it? Why is there a sea of flags in the crowds from the countries currently competing? Without the patriotism would there even be an Olympics?

What has really surprised me is how many Canadian athletes / coaches are representing other countries..

Korea - Ice Skating Coach Brian Orser ( corrected )
Denmark - Curling Coach Renee Sonnenberg Alberta
Moguls - Dale Begg-Smith

Too name but a few..
 
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