Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

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Tonington

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The sin of omission Tonington. That sentence of yours is rank idealism.

It's the truth. The references in the IPCC reports are not IPCC. They are taken from the whole climate community. Professional skeptics like John Christy have taken part. They've discussed studies which go against the grain so to speak.

You can review all of the comments that were invovled in making the report for the working group 1 (physical science basis) here:
Papers of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - Harvard College Library
 

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Gee whiz Tonnigton why do you suppose SC ignored the last part of you post about the mechanism of AGW?:lol:
 

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Gee whiz Tonnigton why do you suppose SC ignored the last part of you post about the mechanism of AGW?:lol:

He has nothing to offer except broad claims of fraud and mistakes. None of that will wash away what we are observing in the atmosphere.

His material is bush league denial.
 

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Is global warming the greatest scam in human history?

Let's hold up our pedestrian, uneducated, misinformed views until we hear from Al Gore and David Suzuki.
If that's who you want to provide you with information about climate change, that's up to you.

Just because one group or other has made mistakes does not mean they will continue making mistakes. EG, there were some pretty flawed ideas on the nature of life at first. That didn't mean that the entire idea of evolution was junk. Some people need to grow up and realize that fact.
The whole idea behind science is to strive to be as accurate as possible in describing our universe and its activities. The in depth study of climate is relatively new so there are bound to be mistakes we make. That doesn't mean that whatever we discover about climate is junk. And info applicable at such-and-such a time may not be as factual at another time.
 

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L Gilbert, that is EXACTLY why I want to discourage ALL uneducated, pedestrian and misinformed opinions.

I mean, what the Hell does anyone know? David Suzuki and Al Gore closed all debates with their wisdom.
 

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Avro.

You're upset that I used the word little - as statistical significance - in responding to your quote. I was being generous. "quite close" in stats-speak is like almost getting laid.. It don't count.

The "tricks" referred to relate to the deliberate engineering of climate models to yield a predetermined outcome. This too has been highlighted by the media. I call it a "trick", you call it something else - it generates the identical result.

This comment :
"For or against? So you acknowledge that journalist trying to make a buck off climate denial are frauds?...Good."

What can I say? It's not worth the time to dignify it with a real response.As for Jones and his waning support.. I stand corrected - he left East Anglia in disgrace. There is no support for him from anyone with an ounce of credibility.Believe whatever you wish Avro - I will do the same, but in the meantime, keep drinking the cool-aid and don't forget to buy your carbon credits.
 

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L Gilbert, that is EXACTLY why I want to discourage ALL uneducated, pedestrian and misinformed opinions.

I mean, what the Hell does anyone know? David Suzuki and Al Gore closed all debates with their wisdom.

Either one one of them is a climatologist, why listen to them?
 

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You're upset that I used the word little - as statistical significance - in responding to your quote. I was being generous. "quite close" in stats-speak is like almost getting laid.. It don't count.


Upset? No, no, I'm quite pleased you used that word. Proves everything.:lol:



The "tricks" referred to relate to the deliberate engineering of climate models to yield a predetermined outcome. This too has been highlighted by the media. I call it a "trick", you call it something else - it generates the identical result.

Isn't that cute, you didn't even read the link.:lol:



What can I say? It's not worth the time to dignify it with a real response.

:lol:I win:lol:
 

Slim Chance

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Rubbish. No organization on Earth is perfect. Mistakes happen. You can't disregard their science just because they have made mistakes. If there are mistakes in the investigations, then that is another thing altogether.

Pathetic.


No organization is perfect?

Then I guess that East Anglia is the perfect poster child for that sentiment considering the frauds detailed in the leaked emails (and not denied I might add) misrepresentation and the exit of the disgraced head of the department. Top it all off by the loss of irreplaceable data that will forever prevent the replication of any future studies. Talk all you like about the integrity of the copied data, but in the end, not only will ever truly know if it is pure, there will never be an opportunity to scrutinize the originals.

That, Tonnington, is truly pathetic.



If you're going to disregard everything that the IPCC might touch on in their work, then you have nothing constructive to add to this discussion.


Why on Earth would I apply an ounce of weight to an organization that has consistently acted in the most unprofessional and unscientific manner imaginable... Only a fool would regard their work and conclusions as reputable.



I already gave you a link to NASA data. You can get all of their station data at the GIStemp website.

And I responded with the reality that NASA was hit with multiple Freedom of Information Act motions over the denial of access to data throughout this entire debate.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?



I gave you the only feasible explanation. What you choose to do with that information is up to you. But don't try to tell me that I haven't had anything to say on these issues. If you paid attention and actually read the links I provide, you might gain some understanding.


You did no such thing. You are unable to provide any form of model that will clearly determine that anthropogenic sources as causation while SIMULTANEOUSLY explaining the periods is glaciation prior to humanity.



I think you and I are about done now.


Ofcourse you're done... You have no answers and are intimidated by someone that refuses march lockstep with those that maintain blind faith.
 

JLM

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Is global warming the greatest scam in human history?

Let's hold up our pedestrian, uneducated, misinformed views until we hear from Al Gore and David Suzuki.



Not if human history includes the days of the vacuum cleaner salesman & the encyclopedia peddler.
 

Slim Chance

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How predictable.

In true fanatical style, you unilaterally declare that "the debate is over"

Ironically, it is this action that pulls the rug out from under the greenies perceived position every time.
 

JLM

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Is there a single aspect of Global Warming that has not been discussed here? I suggest that instead of rewriting the same stuff over and over, before writing anything just review the 2000 posts that have already been written. What is happening here amounts to "sawing sawdust".
 

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