Court Enables Official Facist State of USA

[MHz]

They have small business cooperatives in Haiti. Lots of them. Almost 100%.

That is at the bottom of the list. The prices they get for their goods is set by the buyers.

Harper mentioned the Canadian Gov would take their directions (on what path the future takes) from Corporations. That was a few years ago at a NAU meeting in Mexico.
A perfect opportunity to understand how Admiralty Law is coming out into the open. If the USA is already a corporation (a long time ago) the making corporations equal (and above) to the 'living person'.
CALL FOR IMMEDIATE ARREST OF 5 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES FOR TREASON : Veterans Today
(in part)
THE FIVE THAT STAND AGAINST ALL AMERICANS, THE “MAFIA” JUDGES

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor​

Five members of the Supreme Court declared that a “corporation” is a person, not a “regular person” but one above all natural laws, subject to no God, no moral code but one with unlimited power over our lives, a power awarded by judges who seem themselves as grand inquisitors in an meant to hunt down all hertics who fail to serve their god, the god of money.​

Their ruling has made it legal for foreign controlled corporations to flush unlimited money into our bloated political system to further corrupt something none of us trust and most of us fear. The “corporation/person” that the 5 judges, the “neocon” purists, have turned the United States over to isn’t even American. Our corporations, especially since our economic meltdown are owned by China, Russia and the oil sheiks along with a few foreign banks. They don’t vote, pay taxes, fight in wars, need dental care, breathe air, drive cars or send children to school. Anyone who thinks these things are people is insane. Anyone who would sell our government to them is a criminal and belongs in prison. There is nothing in the Constitution that makes this “gang of five” bribe sucking clowns above the law. There is nothing in the Constitution that even mentions corporations much less gives them status equal to or greater than the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of government.

 

[Canaduh]

Five members of the Supreme Court declared that a “corporation” is a person, not a “regular person” but one above all natural laws, subject to no God, no moral code but one with unlimited power over our lives, a power awarded by judges who seem themselves as grand inquisitors in an meant to hunt down all hertics who fail to serve their god, the god of money.​

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Reminds me of a quote from a TV show I watched.

"Did you know, beginning in the late 19th century, corporations were granted all the rights of the individual, but none of the annoying responsibilities. They lack, almost by design, any kind of moral compass, conscience, or compassion. Basically, corporations are a way to enact sociopathic behavior on a grand scale. In short, they're what makes this country so damn great."
The "Devil" (Props to anyone who knows where I pulled it from).

I'm willing to bet most people would agree that life was far better in the 60's and 70's before Reagan gave corporations and banks free rule over the western world. Back then you bought a loaf of bread from your corner store who was owned by your neighbor who in turn bought something and so on. Now you buy something from a faceless company that's a subsidiary of another subsidiary that's owned by an over seas conglomerate that's owned by a bank. Just look at the European towns that bought American debts.... worked out real well.

 

[Liberalman]

The American culture of free enterprise is based on "Money Talks" and the golden rule "The One With The Gold Makes The Rules"

This ruling is in step with the American way of life.

 

[earth_as_one]

The United States Supreme Court has ruled that spending limits placed on campaign contributions by large corporations are unconstitutional. This allows corporate donors to finance political candidates to any extent they wish.

Given the fact that US elections are already massively influenced by heavy spending, it will be interesting to see if this decision further erodes US democracy.

Landmark Supreme Court ruling allows corporate political cash | Reuters

As the US becomes more plutocratic, corporations will gain the right to vote, run for office and become President... If any person interferes with this process, they aren't getting re-elected. Corporations can back their opponent with unlimited spending...

 

[Liberalman]

As the US becomes more plutocratic, corporations will gain the right to vote, run for office and become President... If any person interferes with this process, they aren't getting re-elected. Corporations can back their opponent with unlimited spending...

The corporations already control the government and if they make the wrong decisions they got the president as a fall guy.

 

[Canaduh]

As the US becomes more plutocratic, corporations will gain the right to vote, run for office and become President... If any person interferes with this process, they aren't getting re-elected. Corporations can back their opponent with unlimited spending...

They always did, this ruling simply cut out the middle man (IE lobbyists). Now corporations can just directly buy an election.

 

[darkbeaver]

Since Darkbeaver posted a thread identical to mine I will comment on some of the posts here.

The US system is already strongly controlled by monied interests. In a typical US election the incumbents outspend the challengers by an average of 12 to 1. This probably accounts for the fact that so few incumbents ever lose once they are elected. Generally the number of challengers who are successful is less than 3%. Compare this to countries like Canada where the turnover in most elections is often as high as 50% or more. In the 1993 election the governing Progressive Conservative Party went from 151 seats to 2. This sort of thing simply does not occur in the US. As a result American politicians are far less responsive to the electorate since they realize that no matter how badly they govern their chance of losing to any challenger is very close to zero. The recent Supreme Court decision will make this worse. It may not turn the US into a fascist state, but it will give the incumbents an even stronger hold on the government. At the very best it will make the US much less democratic that its founding fathers intended.

BTW in the US most jobs are created by small businesses, not large corporations.
Who Creates The Most New Jobs? | Small Business Trends

Sorry about that. Have the moderators put it all in your thread. I will talk to one when they have woken up.

 

[ironsides]

Jan 23 09:08

Our Supreme Court Has Lost Its Mind



Now the cat is truly out of the bag. In principle, corporations can now spend as much of the treasury as shareholders will allow on such political ads. This means that every decision maker in a corporation has contribution and voting rights equal to anyone on the street, while the firm may blast away with treasury funds to bolster management preferences.

Just supports freedom of speech, and more annoying campaign advertising.

 

[Kreskin]

As Ironsides said, it's about freedom of speech. The court ruled the existing law violated the US constitution. As noted in the ruling the issue the first amendment.."Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech." Of course, there were dissenting views within the court, however, do you want Congress to cherry-pick freedom of speech? One could argue that if they can do that then they can block all of those nutty websites where some get all of their news from.

 

[darkbeaver]

Just supports freedom of speech, and more annoying campaign advertising.

You will enjoy being able to freely speak about your wonderfull fascist government then, congradulations your rights have been heldup.:lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

As Ironsides said, it's about freedom of speech. The court ruled the existing law violated the US constitution. As noted in the ruling the issue the first amendment.."Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech." Of course, there were dissenting views within the court, however, do you want Congress to cherry-pick freedom of speech? One could argue that if they can do that then they can block all of those nutty websites where some get all of their news from.

That applies to blood pumping people and not blood sucking monolithic entities.

 

[DaSleeper]

What we have here is the beginning of world government run by Multinational corporations.......

See Bilderberg Group 8O:angryfire:

 

[MHz]

One could argue that if they can do that then they can block all of those nutty websites where some get all of their news from.

WOW, you actually want the FOXMSNABCCNN Network totally dismantled, good for you. I'm sure they will get right on it.

 

[darkbeaver]

Jan 24 08:08

Watchdog groups warn: ‘Corporate globalization’ of US elections is upon us

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• POLITICS/ELECTIONS/CORRUPTION

The Supreme Court may have ruled in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission days ago, but the decision's shockwaves are still rippling across American democracy.
Key among them is a concern first raised by Justice John Paul Stevens, who wrote in his dissent that the court, by removing all prohibitions against corporate or union money in U.S. elections, "would appear to afford the same protection to multinational corporations controlled by foreigners as to individual Americans."

 

[Walter]

The leftards are screaming so it must be a good decision.

 

[darkbeaver]

Define good for me Walter my dictionary is a little different from your 666th edition of [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Machiavellis Table Dictionary for Right Wing Dictators.:lol:
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[MHz]

That applies to blood pumping people and not blood sucking monolithic entities.

Sounds like government collected taxes might go away to be replaced by 'service charges' and manipulation of consumer prices alone.
Marc Stevens: Delusions | Homeland Stupidity

 

[darkbeaver]

Sounds like government collected taxes might go away to be replaced by 'service charges' and manipulation of consumer prices alone.
Marc Stevens: Delusions | Homeland Stupidity

thanks for the link MHZ , that's capitalist efficiency for you why not let them handle taxation, they've done such a smashing job with everything else. Looting treasuries shouldn't be left to governments, they should step aside and let jobs be created in the looting sector.

 

[MHz]

Impaling a few political/corporate families on a some fence-posts might be the only solution. I assume the rest would seek early retirement.


"To fix this we should pass a law that tightens up corporate governance and explicitly spells out - as law - that for-profit companies can only use company resources for the profitable operation of the company. This would make it illegal to use company money to "promote good government" or any other excuse currently used to get around the bribery laws. If by law executives can't use the company's money except for activities that return a profit, then use of this money in politics can't be just "speech" -- it is to return a profit. Therefore the federal bribery of public officials statute would apply to any use of corporate resources to elect candidates:

18 U.S.C. § 201 : US Code - Section 201: Bribery of public officials and witnesses
(b) Whoever -
(1) directly or indirectly, corruptly gives, offers or promises anything of value to any public official or person who has been selected to be a public official, or offers or promises any public official or any person who has been selected to be a public official to give anything of value to any other person or
entity, with intent -
(A) to influence any official act; ...
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than two years, or both. "



How To End Corporate Domination Of Government - And Our Lives | OurFuture.org​

 

[darkbeaver]

"Impaling a few political/corporate families on a some fence-posts might be the only solution. I assume the rest would seek early retirement."

In the long run that wouldn't work you see mummy and daddy psycho often produce baby psycho who is reared and instructed in the elite company of the various old boys clubs or very fine ladies finishing schools, where it is said exist revered near human specimins that cause snakes and lizard to recoil in horror. It is their lifes work to remain on top irregardless of the human cost which to them amounts to nothing more than inconvenient piles of dead useless eaters.