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Downhome_Woman,

Because you went back to your Bible and checked: tell us how could Korah obtain his wealth and they were in the desert of Sinai?

And you said: "he disagreed with Moses and wanted more for he and his family than was given." ; so what was that "he disagreed with Moses"? and what is that he "wanted more for he and his family than was given."?
Oh good grief - You're old enough and you can read - do some actual research. Actually READ a Jewish Torah, or an English Old Testament. I'm not going to spoon feed you - you aren't an infant. Oh - you might also look to history as well. When I read about Islam and what it brought to the world, I also make it a point to read about the actual time that Islam came about. I don't ascribe the mores or the 21st century to the era when Mohammed came into power.
Just so you can gain an insight into the religion and culture that your 'prophet' appropriated? Why don't you read 'Essential Judaism', by George Robinson.
Truthfully, all you do is regurgitate musings from Muslims who have misappropriated a religion and have decided to give it their own spin. I could do the same thing. I could look at Islam, and give it my own interpretation - and who's to say that I wouldn't be devinely inspired? Mohammed SAID he was the last, but could that have been hubris? Bottom line, Einassir, you don't know - you only feel - it's what you want - have been taught - to believe, and while that's good for you, it's not for me. You are SO blind. For you, Whatever you have been taught, you will not question. My hat is off to those who have been tormented in their faith and have come up with a solid belief - whether it be the one they started with or what they ended with. Those who have blind faith? It's not faith at all. Faith comes with examination, examination of the gut, and the intellect and if it still stands the test then it's good to go, no matter what others might say. I lost my 'faith' in Christianity. It happened over a long introspective period. I never lost my faith in a higher being.I have compassion for you.You? You just parrot your mentor.
 

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Oh good grief - You're old enough and you can read - do some actual research. Actually READ a Jewish Torah, or an English Old Testament. I'm not going to spoon feed you - you aren't an infant. Oh - you might also look to history as well. When I read about Islam and what it brought to the world, I also make it a point to read about the actual time that Islam came about. I don't ascribe the mores or the 21st century to the era when Mohammed came into power.
Just so you can gain an insight into the religion and culture that your 'prophet' appropriated? Why don't you read 'Essential Judaism', by George Robinson.
Truthfully, all you do is regurgitate musings from Muslims who have misappropriated a religion and have decided to give it their own spin. I could do the same thing. I could look at Islam, and give it my own interpretation - and who's to say that I wouldn't be devinely inspired? Mohammed SAID he was the last, but could that have been hubris? Bottom line, Einassir, you don't know - you only feel - it's what you want - have been taught - to believe, and while that's good for you, it's not for me. You are SO blind. For you, Whatever you have been taught, you will not question. My hat is off to those who have been tormented in their faith and have come up with a solid belief - whether it be the one they started with or what they ended with. Those who have blind faith? It's not faith at all. Faith comes with examination, examination of the gut, and the intellect and if it still stands the test then it's good to go, no matter what others might say. I lost my 'faith' in Christianity. It happened over a long introspective period. I never lost my faith in a higher being.I have compassion for you.You? You just parrot your mentor.

You have evaded my question and did not give any answer. Therefore, you did not admit that you don't know about the answer.Anyhow, either I am or you are with guidance or with misguidance.Anyhow, it is the Most Gracious in Whom we believe; One without associate, and in Him we trust and On Him we rely; therefore, you will come to know, following your death who is the one in extreme error: we or you.This is in the Quran 67: 29 قُلْ هُوَ الرَّحْمَنُ آمَنَّا بِهِ وَعَلَيْهِ تَوَكَّلْنَا فَسَتَعْلَمُونَ مَنْ هُوَ فِي ضَلَالٍ مُّبِينٍThe explanation (Say [O Mohammed, to the unbelievers]: "It is He the Most Gracious: we have believed in Him [alone, having no associate nor any son or daughter], and in Him we put [all] our trust [in preaching the religion of the Islam]; then [after your death] you will know which [of us] is in manifest error.)Quran Interpretation
 
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You have evaded my question and did not give any answer. Therefore, you did not admit that you don't know about the answer.Anyhow, either I am or you are with guidance or with misguidance.Anyhow, it is the Most Gracious in Whom we believe; One without associate, and in Him we trust and On Him we rely; therefore, you will come to know, following your death who is the one in extreme error: we or you.This is in the Quran 67: 29قُلْ هُوَ الرَّحْمَنُ آمَنَّا بِهِ وَعَلَيْهِ تَوَكَّلْنَا فَسَتَعْلَمُونَ مَنْ هُوَ فِي ضَلَالٍ مُّبِينٍThe explanation ( Say [O Mohammed, to the unbelievers]: "It is He the Most Gracious: we have believed in Him [alone, having no associate nor any son or daughter], and in Him we put [all] our trust [in preaching the religion of the Islam]; then [after your death] you will know which [of us] is in manifest error.)Quran Interpretation
Funny you should say she doesn't answer your question when you have never answered any of mine. You just regurgitate your mentor's words or quote the Quran completely out of context. Your assertion that your book and your prophet are true and right are only your assertion. You have provided no proof, just warnings of dire consequences to those who don't believe you or your religious beliefs. You are just farting in the wind constantly and offending everybody's sensibilities. You are the worst religious salesman I have ever heard or read.
 

eanassir

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Jews believe in the transmigration of souls or the reincarnation, while this is wrong.Therefore, be sure you will not be any eagle following your death. :DMoreover, what I asked her was: From where Korah obtained his wealth, while they were in the wilderness? So she started to go round about and could not answer. :)
 

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Jews believe in the transmigration of souls or the reincarnation, while this is wrong.Therefore, be sure you will not be any eagle following your death. :DMoreover, what I asked her was: From where Korah obtained his wealth, while they were in the wilderness? So she started to go round about and could not answer. :)
And why is it wrong? Because your book says so? Do you realize that you have a 50/50 chance of being wrong yourself?
Downhome could quote teh Torah or the bible but you would just say they are wrong with the same certainty that you say reincarnation it false. Sorry but more than two billion people believe in reincarnation, which is more than don't. Are they all wrong? Are the Muslims the only ones with the truth? Muslims make up about 1/6th of the human population on Earth. You are one silly bugger.
 

eanassir

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And why is it wrong? Because your book says so? Do you realize that you have a 50/50 chance of being wrong yourself?
Downhome could quote teh Torah or the bible but you would just say they are wrong with the same certainty that you say reincarnation it false. Sorry but more than two billion people believe in reincarnation, which is more than don't. Are they all wrong? Are the Muslims the only ones with the truth? Muslims make up about 1/6th of the human population on Earth. You are one silly bugger.


The reincarnation is an illusion; they only imagine such a thing; can you prove it?
Bring the Torah text that confirms the reincarnation, if you know the truth.

While I am 100% certain about the afterlife, and it is affirmed in the Torah, the Gospel and the Quran.​
 

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The reincarnation is an illusion; they only imagine such a thing; can you prove it?
Bring the Torah text that confirms the reincarnation, if you know the truth.

While I am 100% certain about the afterlife, and it is affirmed in the Torah, the Gospel and the Quran.​

Reincarnation is no more of an illusion that Allah, Koran being the word of God etc. You are asking others to prove reincarnation, can you prove that Allah is the true God, that Allah even exists?
 

eanassir

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Reincarnation is no more of an illusion that Allah, Koran being the word of God etc. You are asking others to prove reincarnation, can you prove that Allah is the true God, that Allah even exists?

You only repeat and insist on your words and do not consider all my replies about this obvious subject.
We said that God, Allah and Yahweh are the synonyms of God the Creator Most Gracious and Almighty, in English, Arabic and Hebrew.
About God there isn't any doubt: the Splitter of the planets and the earth after being one mass.
This is in the Quran 14: 10
قَالَتْ رُسُلُهُمْ أَفِي اللّهِ شَكٌّ فَاطِرِ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ يَدْعُوكُمْ لِيَغْفِرَ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُؤَخِّرَكُمْ إِلَى أَجَلٍ مُّسَمًّى
The explanation:
(Their messengers said: Is there any doubt regarding God, the Splitter of the heavens and the earth, Who calls you [to serve Him] that He may forgive you your sins and reprieve you to a stated term?)Quran Interpretation
 

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The reincarnation is an illusion; they only imagine such a thing; can you prove it?
Bring the Torah text that confirms the reincarnation, if you know the truth.

While I am 100% certain about the afterlife, and it is affirmed in the Torah, the Gospel and the Quran.​
But you have no proof either. :roll: Show me your afterlife? Don't tell me about it, show me.
 

AnnaG

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You only repeat and insist on your words and do not consider all my replies about this obvious subject.
Your replies are just words. And they aren't even your words. They are words that some bonehead wrote down a millenium or two ago. They are as relevant as the words in fairy tales and ghost stories.
We said that God, Allah and Yahweh are the synonyms of God the Creator Most Gracious and Almighty, in English, Arabic and Hebrew.
About God there isn't any doubt: the Splitter of the planets and the earth after being one mass.
Nonsense. There's plenty of doubt.
This is in the Quran 14: 10
قَالَتْ رُسُلُهُمْ أَفِي اللّهِ شَكٌّ فَاطِرِ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ يَدْعُوكُمْ لِيَغْفِرَ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُؤَخِّرَكُمْ إِلَى أَجَلٍ مُّسَمًّىhttp://www.quran-ayat.com
Gibberish.
 

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God is Greater than the World and the Afterlife; therefore, if one believes in God, he may believe in the afterlife; but if he does not believe in God the Creator, what will be his benefit from believing in the afterlife.Man after Death
 

eanassir

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But you have no proof either. :roll: Show me your afterlife? Don't tell me about it, show me.

You with Rolling Eyes are the last one to speak about proofs while you speak about gods and myths of your ancestors.
 

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God is Greater than the World and the Afterlife; therefore, if one believes in God, he may believe in the afterlife; but if he does not believe in God the Creator, what will be his benefit from believing in the afterlife.Man after Death
Why? Are gods necessary for afterlives? Are afterlives necessary for gods? There's no evidence that either exist so describing a connection between them is moot.
 

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You with Rolling Eyes are the last one to speak about proofs while you speak about gods and myths of your ancestors.
The same could be said for you. But at least if I claim something, I provide evidence for my claim. All you provide is hearsay. Hearsay is not evidence. Hearsay is just opinion. And one person's opinion is no more valid than another without supporting evidence. So you and I are both in the same boat, except you are doing all the rowing to nowhere and I am watching the scenery and enjoying the ride. :D
 

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Reincarnation is no more of an illusion that Allah, Koran being the word of God etc. You are asking others to prove reincarnation, can you prove that Allah is the true God, that Allah even exists?

Reincarnation is obviously a delusion which is not true.
While God is True, and yes the Quran is the word of God - be glorified -
Will the Arab call the Creator as God or they call Him Yahweh; because these two words are not Arabic, but English and Hebrew?
And you cannot play this game while Allah (or God in Arabic) is the Most Gracious the Most Merciful, the Most Kind the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing, the Almighty, the Most High, the All-Seeing, the Most Forgiving . These are the attributes of Allah the same attributes of God and Yahweh.
This is in the Quran 59: 22-24 about Allah or God:
[FONT=&quot]هُوَ اللَّهُ الَّذِي لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا هُوَ عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ وَالشَّهَادَةِ هُوَ الرَّحْمَنُ الرَّحِيمُ[/FONT] . [FONT=&quot]هُوَ اللَّهُ الَّذِي لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا هُوَ الْمَلِكُ الْقُدُّوسُ السَّلَامُ الْمُؤْمِنُ الْمُهَيْمِنُ الْعَزِيزُ الْجَبَّارُ الْمُتَكَبِّرُ سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ . هُوَ اللَّهُ الْخَالِقُ الْبَارِئُ الْمُصَوِّرُ لَهُ الْأَسْمَاء الْحُسْنَى يُسَبِّحُ لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ[/FONT]

The explanation:
(He is God; there is no god [to be worshipped in the universe] but He.
He is the All-Knowing of all that is absent [: invisible and unknown to you], and all that is present [: visible and known to you];
He is theMost Gracious,theMost Merciful.
He is God; there is no god but He:
the Sovereign Lord,
the Sanctified [by His angels],
the All-Peaceable,
the Believer [in Himself],
the Dominant [over His creatures],
the Almighty,
the Compeller [of unbelievers to the Fire],
the Most Sublime [above His servants.]
Celebrated be God above all that they associate [with Him.]
He is God;
the Creator [of all the creation],
the Savior [of His loyal servants],
the Fashioner [of bodies inside wombs.]
His are the Names Most Beautiful.
All that is in the heavens and the earth glorify Him,
and He is the All-Mighty,
the Most Wise.)

http://www.quran-ayat.com
 

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Reincarnation is obviously a delusion which is not true.
While God is True, and yes the Quran is the word of God - be glorified -
Will the Arab call the Creator as God or they call Him Yahweh; because these two words are not Arabic, but English and Hebrew?
And you cannot play this game while Allah (or God in Arabic) is the Most Gracious the Most Merciful, the Most Kind the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing, the Almighty, the Most High, the All-Seeing, the Most Forgiving . These are the attributes of Allah the same attributes of God and Yahweh.
This is in the Quran 59: 22-24 about Allah or God:
See? Just opinion. Having fun rowing?
[FONT=&quot]هُوَ اللَّهُ الَّذِي لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا هُوَ عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ وَالشَّهَادَةِ هُوَ الرَّحْمَنُ الرَّحِيمُ[/FONT] . [FONT=&quot]هُوَ اللَّهُ الَّذِي لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا هُوَ الْمَلِكُ الْقُدُّوس[[السَّلَامُ الْمُؤْمِنُ الْمُهَيْمِنُ الْعَزِيزُ الْجَبَّارُ الْمُتَكَبِّرُ سُبْحَانَ اللَّهِ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ . هُوَ اللَّهُ الْخَالِقُ الْبَارِئُ الْمُصَوِّرُ لَهُ الْأَسْمَاء الْحُسْنَى يُسَبِّحُ لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ[/FONT]

The explanation:
(He is God; there is no god [to be worshipped in the universe] but He.
He is the All-Knowing of all that is absent [: invisible and unknown to you], and all that is present [: visible and known to you];
He is theMost Gracious,theMost Merciful.
He is God; there is no god but He:
the Sovereign Lord,
the Sanctified [by His angels],
the All-Peaceable,
the Believer [in Himself],
the Dominant [over His creatures],
the Almighty,
the Compeller [of unbelievers to the Fire],
the Most Sublime [above His servants.]
Celebrated be God above all that they associate [with Him.]
He is God;
the Creator [of all the creation],
the Savior [of His loyal servants],
the Fashioner [of bodies inside wombs.]
His are the Names Most Beautiful.
All that is in the heavens and the earth glorify Him,
and He is the All-Mighty,
the Most Wise.)

http://www.quran-ayat.com
:laughing3: Gibberish and an interpretative opinion about gibberish.