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YukonJack

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SirJosephPorter, in typical fashion, the last two paragraphs of your post #219 totally discredits your first paragraph in the same post.
 

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This is a lie; nothing like this is in the Glorious Quran; in the Quran, the one that speaks badly about the apostle of God will have a painful punishment in the afterlife. (And in this life of the World).

Perhaps it's a mistranslation from the Hebrew or Aramaic?
 

SirJosephPorter

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Nonsense! Every people had their tribal gods and spirits!

Sure they did, Spade. But Hinduism was the first attempt at organized, monotheistic (or pantheistic) religion with beliefs, creed, Holy Book (or books etc.). If you are talking of tribal Gods or tribal spirits, religion is probably as old as humanity itself. I am sure prehistoric man thought that thunder, lightening was caused by Gods, as he sat cowering in his cave seeking shelter from the elements.

But Hinduism was the first systematic, organized attempt at religion and as such is indeed the oldest religion in the world.
 
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eanassir

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The Muslim when goes to sleep, it is better to give the testimony of faith: ((No god but God alone without associate, and Mohammed is the apostle and servant of God.))That is because the sleep is like death; when man sleeps he may not awake again.I surprise from some people: they are old and about crippled and at the brim of departure from this World, and they don't consider. Are they wise? No, they aren't.
 

SirJosephPorter

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SirJosephPorter, in typical fashion, the last two paragraphs of your post #219 totally discredits your first paragraph in the same post.

Hello, YJ. Still around, I see. Not banned or anything. Good, good. And the last two paragraphs of my post nicely support the earlier paragraphs in the post. My point is that Islam is not to blame, no more than other religions, Muslims are to blame. My entire post supports that, there is no inconsistency anywhere.
 
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SirJosephPorter

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So you are keeping up on your insisting, until your God appointment comes on.Consider it in the other way round: in case the Quran is from God Who sent His apostles to all nations; of course you will find similarities; but the Quran is pure: crystal-pure.The evidence of the Quran is so obvious, that no one denies unless he closes his eyes to the light of the Quran intentionally.

That is what you believe, eanassir. But where is your proof? Your Islam is fully as valid as my Applism (which I have described before in these forums). Islam has no more proof in its support than Applism does. Indeed, in the eyes of the law, Islam and Applism would be considered equivalent. The only difference being that one has one billion supporters, the other has only one.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Thought I would consult "The Agnostic Witch"for a definitive check on SJP's assertion.
The Oldest Religion


Quite so Spade, thanks for finding the reference for me (your check is in the mail). This is what the link quoted by you says:

"Most reference books list Hinduism as the oldest world religion. This is probably because Hinduism has the oldest recorded roots, which lie in Dravidianism."

So a plausible argument can indeed be made for Hinduism being the oldest religion in the world. Incidentally, Dravid has no relation to David, the two are totally different.
 

eanassir

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That is what you believe, eanassir. But where is your proof? Your Islam is fully as valid as my Applism (which I have described before in these forums). Islam has no more proof in its support than Applism does. Indeed, in the eyes of the law, Islam and Applism would be considered equivalent. The only difference being that one has one billion supporters, the other has only one.

All proofs are there and all evidences, but you don't want to consider.http://www.quran-ayat.com/http://mlivo.com/translations/Arberry.htm