The devotion to God alone

Niflmir

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I have understood that you speak about science; that's ok ; but Niflmir, speak clearly because I couldn't find the word "altruistically" in the dictionary.

That is because you do not know how to turn nouns into adverbs--or how to reverse the process.

Learn how to use google or get a better dictionary.

That, and stick to the point.

You are a hypocrite or you never do good deeds according to your logic.
 

eanassir

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Follow the link, buddy. I'm not going to make copypasta just because you are lazy.

Buddy, I'm not lazy, but you are so proud.

OK, your objection is not correct: why?

Because not every act in public is a hypocrisy, but if one intends to do it only to show people it is the hypocrisy.

E.g. man may expend in secret and in public for the sake of God: God knows about his heart; but to expend in secret is better.

This is in the Quran 2: 271

إِن تُبْدُواْ الصَّدَقَاتِ فَنِعِمَّا هِيَ وَإِن تُخْفُوهَا وَتُؤْتُوهَا الْفُقَرَاء فَهُوَ خَيْرٌ لُّكُمْ وَيُكَفِّرُ عَنكُم مِّن سَيِّئَاتِكُمْ وَاللّهُ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ خَبِيرٌ

The explanation:
(If you [believers] disclose [your] almsgiving, it is excellent.
But if you conceal them, and give them to the poor, that is better for you [before God]: and [God] will acquit you [of some] of your [venial] sins;
for God is All-Aware of what you do[: so He will reward you according to your deeds.])

http://quran-ayat.com/
quran-ayat.com/
 

Niflmir

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Buddy, I'm not lazy, but you are so proud.

OK, your objection is not correct: why?

Because not every act in public is a hypocrisy, but if one intends to do it only to show people it is the hypocrisy.

E.g. man may expend in secret and in public for the sake of God: God knows about his heart; but to expend in secret is better.

Oh right. God isn't a person. Your god is imaginary, and so doesn't count. So what you are telling me is if you do something to try to please a god, you are simply crazy, not selfish.
 

darkbeaver

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Buddy, I'm not lazy, but you are so proud.

OK, your objection is not correct: why?

Because not every act in public is a hypocrisy, but if one intends to do it only to show people it is the hypocrisy.

E.g. man may expend in secret and in public for the sake of God: God knows about his heart; but to expend in secret is better.

This is in the Quran 2: 271

إِن تُبْدُواْ الصَّدَقَاتِ فَنِعِمَّا هِيَ وَإِن تُخْفُوهَا وَتُؤْتُوهَا الْفُقَرَاء فَهُوَ خَيْرٌ لُّكُمْ وَيُكَفِّرُ عَنكُم مِّن سَيِّئَاتِكُمْ وَاللّهُ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ خَبِيرٌ

The explanation:
(If you [believers] disclose [your] almsgiving, it is excellent.
But if you conceal them, and give them to the poor, that is better for you [before God]: and [God] will acquit you [of some] of your [venial] sins;
for God is All-Aware of what you do[: so He will reward you according to your deeds.])

http://quran-ayat.com/
quran-ayat.com/

Happy New Year EA. It seems that I alone here at CCC have faith in your eventual celestial reward for your good works in a strange corner of gods universe. :smile:
 

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china

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I have understood that you speak about science; that's ok ; but Niflmir, speak clearly because I couldn't find the word "altruistically" in the dictionary.

(altruist)-someone who makes charitable donations intended to increase human well-being
 

eanassir

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Happy New Year EA. It seems that I alone here at CCC have faith in your eventual celestial reward for your good works in a strange corner of gods universe. :smile:


Happy New Year DB, where do you think my reward (I hope) will be? In the region from the Moon and up? :smile:
 

eanassir

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(altruist)-someone who makes charitable donations intended to increase human well-being

China, why not such charitable donations be for the poor and needy, and at the same time doing such work for God's sake?

But if the work is not dedicated to God alone, but dedicated to others: priests and religious men; then it will be refused.

E.g. one brings food and clothes for his own children and say with himself: I give them the food and dress for God's sake. And doing every good work intended for God's sake alone, and giving it to the poor and orphans.

An Hour with Ghosts
 

eanassir

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Oh right. God isn't a person. Your god is imaginary, and so doesn't count. So what you are telling me is if you do something to try to please a god, you are simply crazy, not selfish.


God is a person. God is not imaginary. He is the True One.
Of course man should seek after the good pleasure of God; and even in Paradise, the good pleasure of God is greater than all the blessings of Paradise.
 

AnnaG

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I tell you the word of God in the Quran, and so some will reject it, and others may accept it.
No. You simply regurgitate the words of someone claiming to represent some god as well as spewing your assumption and version of other people's opinions.
 

eanassir

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Similarity between the old and new "association with God"

The association: is to associate someone or something with God; so that man will worship and serve such idol or patron together with God.

The association or sharing others with God Almighty was in the past similar to the present association and idolatry today.

Their names, ways and symbols are the same with the ancient Children of Israel in the past, as is it with Jews, Muslims and Christians now.

Comparison between some symbols of such association:
It is mentioned in the Book of Leviticus, chapter 26: 1; God – be glorified – said:
"I am the Lord your God. You shall make for yourselves no idols, neither shall you raise up an engraved imageor a pillar, neither shall you place any figured stone in your land, to bow down to it: for I am the Lord your God."

The explanation:
The "idol": is a high building, circular in shape, ascribed to one of the false gods, or to one of the saints; like the "Maqam" of nowadays: e.g. the Maqam of Khidir, or the Maqam of Sadeq or what is like that.

The engraved images: are the statues of creatures, like those used by Christians: e.g. the statues of Mary and Jesus, the Cross and similar things. Now some Muslims put the pictures and drawings of some imams to serve the same purpose.

The pillars: are large stones erected over walls or hanged on them: for one of false gods, or for one of kings, or what is like that: e.g. a stone in Iran at Quadam Gah.

The "figured stones" are found in large numbers, in the shrines of the imams, sheikhs and saints. Nowadays, a large number of people kiss such stones and sanctify them.

Moreover, it is mentioned in the Tablets of Prophet Moses – salam be to him – [and it is repeated] in the Book of Deuteronomy, chapter 5: 7-9 God –be glorified – said that:

"7 You shall have no other gods before me.
8 "You shall not make an engraved image for yourself, [nor] any likeness [of anything] that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
9 You shall not bow down yourself to them, nor serve them; for I am the Lord your God, a jealous God."

quran-ayat.com/an_hour_with_ghosts.htm#About_the_monotheism_in_the_Bible
http://quran-ayat.com/an_hour_with_ghosts.htm#About_the_monotheism_in_the_Bible
 
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AnnaG

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belief in anything when you sit on your hands and do nothing is uselless.
I rather an Athiest that does his best to make the world a better place.
Preaching doesn't make the world a better place.
If God does exist, he or it would favour better the action of a man than what he or she believes in.
Exactly. Anyone can babble about stuff. Actions speak louder.
So far, I haven't seen a whole lot of action from any gods, just a lot of babbling from people claiming ability to speak for them.
 

AnnaG

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eanassir,
Would you do your good works for a Jew or Christian or just for Muslims? What about a Buddhist or a Baha'i? Would you give alms to a Mormon or feed a Jane? If not, then you would be a hypocrite.
My guess would be that if an atheist was drowning, eanasir would offer rocks.
 

AnnaG

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Some people do some good work only to show before other people: that they are good: this is the hypocrisy.
Exactly. If someone does good work, they should do it just because; not because they think they'd be pleasing some god or other person. That would be a hollow deed; one without substance.