Enough farting around on Iran & Nukes

Iran should have Nuke Weapons


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MHz

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Hundreds of thousands protested the Govt - Blood was shed - Now are all these demonstrators CIA operatives - Really - What a stretch you make with these claims - Look back to the revolution of 79 - Led by the younger population who battled the Shah - It is occurring again -
Why would anybody revolt against an American Puppet? Oh, yeah, never mind.
Are you saying America was supporting the students that held American's hostage (above and beyond the 70 some extra days the incoming Gov had them hold onto them)? I still find that shocking, don't you????

Speaking to reporters, Mehmanparast said the deadly clashes in Tehran were the work of a tiny minority, and he accused outside countries, including the U.S. and Britain, of "miscalculating" by siding with the protesters.
"Some Western countries are supporting this sort of activities. This is intervention in our internal affairs. We strongly condemn it," he said. "In this regard, the British ambassador will be summoned today."
He gave no further details, and there was no immediate reaction from Britain.
Britain, France, Germany and the U.S. have all criticized Iran's violent response to the protests, the bloodiest confrontations between the government and reformist activists since June's disputed presidential election.
Iran Accuses West of Instigating Violent Protests - Iran | Map | News - FOXNews.com
Just how lax are the laws concerning treason? Surely meeting with the Red Cross or some similar group would be viewed somewhat differently than a back-alley meeting between a extremist student and some Journalist who was prone to write only anti-gov articles and just happened to have some extra cash available for the 'inside scoop'.
Let's hope none flashed their CIA badges by mistake.
"Mahmanparast, the Foreign Ministry spokesman, said he was unaware of any arrests of foreigners. But he said it was possible that foreign journalists who did not have proper credentials had been detained."
 

Goober

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Why would anybody revolt against an American Puppet? Oh, yeah, never mind.
Are you saying America was supporting the students that held American's hostage (above and beyond the 70 some extra days the incoming Gov had them hold onto them)? I still find that shocking, don't you????

Speaking to reporters, Mehmanparast said the deadly clashes in Tehran were the work of a tiny minority, and he accused outside countries, including the U.S. and Britain, of "miscalculating" by siding with the protesters.
"Some Western countries are supporting this sort of activities. This is intervention in our internal affairs. We strongly condemn it," he said. "In this regard, the British ambassador will be summoned today."
He gave no further details, and there was no immediate reaction from Britain.
Britain, France, Germany and the U.S. have all criticized Iran's violent response to the protests, the bloodiest confrontations between the government and reformist activists since June's disputed presidential election.
Iran Accuses West of Instigating Violent Protests - Iran | Map | News - FOXNews.com
Just how lax are the laws concerning treason? Surely meeting with the Red Cross or some similar group would be viewed somewhat differently than a back-alley meeting between a extremist student and some Journalist who was prone to write only anti-gov articles and just happened to have some extra cash available for the 'inside scoop'.
Let's hope none flashed their CIA badges by mistake.
"Mahmanparast, the Foreign Ministry spokesman, said he was unaware of any arrests of foreigners. But he said it was possible that foreign journalists who did not have proper credentials had been detained."


MHZ

If there was a breed of Apple Tree named Dumb - I would say that the apple does not fall far from the tree

The youth of Iran in 79 were on the frontlines facing armed troops - the troops could not keep on killing their own citizens - read the posts I make - no traps are set - so give up on the paranoia

Of course monies are going to some opposition groups - to all the hundreds of thousands that are protesting - Get a grip on reality - the same in 79 - economy is disarray - corrupt Govt - Lost the power to govern - That is what is going on in Iran today as we speak -

The reply from the hardliner Theological thugs is " the harshest punishment must be met" - killing them - in the streets - show trials if they survive long enough - or just plain executions as happened in 88 -

Why do you think that journalist will only write about anti -Govt articles - they do not have to search very far - it is happening all across the country -

As to countries condemning the violent response from the Theological Thugs - I would expect nothing less - What would you expect -

The Iranian Govt is corrupt - Many in the hierarchy have made billions which have been invested abroad - outside of the Govt ability to regain it. Do some freakin research -

Is it treason to protest peacefully - when attacked by the Militia and other Govt goons the people will defend themselves - Is that wrong - Answer up now

Your heroes are nothing but murerous thugs that will take any and every action possible to retain power - Much like the Shah was doing until the Army refused.
 

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''The Iranian Govt is corrupt''


No worse than India, Pakistan, or just about anywhere else.

Bull****.

Iran has a Human Rights ranking of 8.09.....which makes it the 12th worst in the world....

Pakistan is better, but not a LOT better, (7.48, which is 22nd worst in the world)

India is A LOT better, 5.33....which puts her somewhere in the middle of the herd......

Country Ranking Table 2007 Rights
 

ironsides

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You poor poor people, how could you blame your baby Obama for all this, the CIA has been out for years. (1) They are such a sweet and tolerant goverment. How many did they kill since the election in other protests? We all are responsible for what will happen in Iran it is in a countdown now by doing nothing.

"Police chief Gen. Ismail Ahmadi Moghaddam made a harsh threat to protesters to stay off the streets.
In dealing with previous protests, police showed leniency. But given that these opponents are seeking to topple (the ruling system), there will be no mercy," Moghaddam said, according to IRNA. "We will take severe action. The era of tolerance is over. Anyone attending such rallies will be crushed."
Iran police vow to crush protesters with no mercy - Yahoo! News
 

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You poor poor people, how could you blame your baby Obama for all this, the CIA has been out for years. (1) They are such a sweet and tolerant goverment. How many did they kill since the election in other protests? We all are responsible for what will happen in Iran it is in a countdown now by doing nothing.

"Police chief Gen. Ismail Ahmadi Moghaddam made a harsh threat to protesters to stay off the streets.
In dealing with previous protests, police showed leniency. But given that these opponents are seeking to topple (the ruling system), there will be no mercy," Moghaddam said, according to IRNA. "We will take severe action. The era of tolerance is over. Anyone attending such rallies will be crushed."
Iran police vow to crush protesters with no mercy - Yahoo! News

ironsides

Basically blood will flow - The terrorist tactics by the Thugs will increase - the targeted murders and jailing of family members and close associates complete with torture, rape and other unspeakable acts against the reformist movement will continue

In 79 the Army after a number of riots where killings occurred stopped and mutinied against the Govt - Iran today with the Revolutionary Guards, the so called Militia that operates outside of any laws are different - They will do the killing as they consider it to be God's work -

After a death on the 40th day we will again see more demonstrations and possibly mass slaughter - How people on this thread can defend the Thugs in Iran is sometimes beyond comprehension - Hatred for the US I can understand - but to blame the US for all that is occurring in Iran is more than simplistic - it ignores the reality of the Thugs yet they set that aside as it conflicts with their reasoning, no matter how flawed Iran is,

No matter how they respond with murder some will defend the regime of Thugs and believe that the US is behind all the problems in Iran.

The 79 revolution had 2 main points that drove the people to revolt - a failed economy and a Govt that is illegitimate and does not have the support of the people of Iran - Same circumstances prevail today -
 

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LOL, you two are now a tag-team. Do you know how sickening even the thought is? lol
Carry on, I'll get the popcorn.
 

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LOL, you two are now a tag-team. Do you know how sickening even the thought is? lol
Carry on, I'll get the popcorn.

And what did I state that is disagreeable - you like the Iranians so much perhaps you should live there. Put up or shut up - attack the points and please do not go off in that biblical rant you usually do, that along with the US is the problem for everything is stale - like your thinking - stale and outdated. -
 

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LOL, you two are now a tag-team. Do you know how sickening even the thought is? lol
Carry on, I'll get the popcorn.
MHZ

I note that you are on that invisible mode - or as I call Slither mode - scared of the light of day -Should not bother you with the size of the blinders you have on.
 

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Poor Colpy still hasn't learned his lesson about human rights in India.

Female genocide in India: 10 million baby girls killed right before & after birth « Rupee News


When will you ever learn, Colpy? When??

Uh-huh....get real.

The source you quote is Moin Ansari...........a Islamic Pakistani blogger who has also claimed Blackwater has invaded Pakistan to murder large numbers of civilians.......and that Bollywood is the world's largest producer of pornography.......

Uh-huh.
 

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"The 79 revolution had 2 main points that drove the people to revolt - a failed economy and a Govt that is illegitimate and does not have the support of the people of Iran - Same circumstances prevail today -"

Nobody wants a war with Iran, but as Goober said, the reasons for a internal revolution still exist, and if we or any country can help them without getting actively involved, I see no reason not to. Those people for the most part are facing armed soldiers with nothing and getting arrested and killed. Even under the Shah Mohammad Rezā Shāh Pahlavi things were better than they are now, at least the country had stability once his regime took full control. Not saying he was a good guy, just that you could walk around the cities at night without getting shot or mugged under his regime.
 

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You can get shot or mugged in any major city in North America. There are many who want to overthrow the government because it is corrupted beyond repair. These are dissidents who would be tried and executed in the US for treason. Can you tell me what the difference is?
 

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if we or any country can help them without getting actively involved, I see no reason not to.
Just how do you do that without it being called interferring in the political process in a foreign country. Why not make the agents already over there wear stars and striped themed jackets, if they are doing thing above-board why are they there trying to be unnoticed.

Those people for the most part are facing armed soldiers with nothing and getting arrested and killed. Even under the Shah Mohammad Rezā Shāh Pahlavi things were better than they are now, at least the country had stability once his regime took full control. Not saying he was a good guy, just that you could walk around the cities at night without getting shot or mugged under his regime.
Perhaps you should quit lying about what is going on over there, how many fires would get started or police hurt in Canada before deadly action is taken.
Please back up your statement about how much better off they were under the American Shah, it is another lie of course so no proof will be coming, will it liar.
 
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You can get shot or mugged in any major city in North America. There are many who want to overthrow the government because it is corrupted beyond repair. These are dissidents who would be tried and executed in the US for treason. Can you tell me what the difference is?

Cliffy

You are not using treason in the correct manner.

Government, Politics & Diplomacy) violation or betrayal of the allegiance that a person owes his sovereign or his country, esp by attempting to overthrow the government; high treason

2. any treachery or betrayalViolation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.

Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavour.



Ahmad Alamolhoda, a hardline cleric, told the Tehran rally that the opposition leaders — “chiefs of sedition” — should repent or be charged as mohareb, enemies of God, for which the Sharia punishment is death.

Cliffy - some definitions of Treason so as to bring you up to date - The above quote is a clear exampe of the Judicial System is Iran - A leading cleric has threatened all demonstartors with the charge of "mohareb" If found guilty the punishment is death. Do you see any US Govt Official calling for the death penalty for demonstraters in the US - Are all these demonstrators CIA agents - The thoecratic thugs decide on their own or thru show trials after torture and rape is used - Both male and female - then they are hung -
Do you see this in the US?
 

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See what happens if a foreign Nation (say Cuba) is funding or making promises to Americans to make the political climate unstable. That is their whole intend in Iran, make demonstrations violent, the US doesn't care squat about Iranian human-rights, that latest proposed sanctions harm the very ones they are claiming are already under undue hardships. They backed the most brutal dictator of the last 100 years and the grudgingly let him be taken fro power by the people of Iran.
It's one thing to have more than one political party battling each other without outside influences. When people from a different Nationality try to influence that they are making traitors out of anybody that accepts their 'assistance'. Those 'assistance's' encourage violence against the Gov in power. If caught the citizen is labeled a traitor to his country and punished, if a foreigner is caught instigating violence against the gov, like the guy in the pic, then that is conspiracy to commit treason and the penalty is most likely death.