Another Example of Yankee Gun Mentality
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Yep, when I was perfect people were always being a nuisance expecting me to do a lot of things for them. :lol::lol:
Now let's not go overboard here, Mowich. I know the above statement to be untrue. I hope you had tongue firmly implanted in cheek when you wrote that! :smile:
Uh....that is why I inserted the winkie at the end of the statement.;-)
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Is that what you call it? A winkie? Woo, times have changed...I'm still back in the 50's...where I come from, a winkie was something totally different! ;-) It looked like something on the back of a truck in PEI...ha, ha...
Sheesh! First hummers and now winkies - wish my daughter was here, would not have made that boo- boo. Yep, life is a lot tougher these days.
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No bobnoorduyn. This is my original question to Colpy. When the coroners examined the bodies of the dead, were those bullet holes or finger holes that riddled the victims?
From the bottom to the top....I did not answer your question because it was a rhetorical question: by definition, no answer is required.You should read with a little less of a chip on your shoulder; you'll enjoy a better debate.....the "satanic cult" jibe was just that, a light-hearted jibe, followed by a smiley face.........relax, kick back, don't be so uptight......no offense intended.There are a lot of people out there that dislike the NRA....you gave some indication that you are one of them by your introduction of the debate on that organization's behaviour.......if you are a paid-up lifetime member, now would be the time to say so...Firearms made you free and keep you free. I used and carried a firearm for over 10 years to defend my life....and I never killed anyone. Oddly enough, the only co-workers injured and killed in that job died in automobile crashes. There are over 250 million guns in the USA, most of which are used regularly.......yet a lot more people die from car crashes....and yes, guns contribute greatly to the economy....hunters shooters etc spend billions.........Now, ease up on the personal attacks. You've had your one.
No Colpy. You refuse to answer my original question because you know what the answer will be and you won't admit it. My question is perfectly valid and has a definant answer. Now answer it and quit stalling.
I'm reading this with a chip on my shoulder and should calm down and not be so uptight? Oh, and I should ease up on the personal attacks too? Really? You think I've done all of these things? Pretty funny since nowhere in my posts have I ever flown off the handle, used personal attacks, childish name calling, or posted anything in this thread of the sorts. If you're so sure then you'd have no problem in proving so.
Firearms made me free and keep me free, huh. You do know that many tyrants and despots came to their positions and stayed there by guns right? The french revolutionaries, Mao Tse-Tung, Benito Mussolini, Lenin and his bolsheviks, Chiang Kia Shek, the Iranian revolutionaries. Did they use their guns to keep their people free? Or just their own version of 'freedom'?
Guns contribute greatly to the economy? Are they a vital sector of it? Or even among the really big sectors of the economy? How much did guns out perform the banking, manufacturing, natural resource, and service sectors? Oh, get this. Did you know that guns depend on the mining industry that make the metals required to make them (guns)? And also the forest industry for certain wood parts required as well? There is also the oil industry that guns depend on to make the plastic for parts for many guns. Let's not forget about the banking sector which gives out the loans so that gun companies can manufacture their products, and then there's the service sector which provides the advertisements so the masses are aware of such products. I guess that means that those vital sectors of economy mean jobs so people can make the money to buy their guns. Hmmmmm, seems that guns need those sectors of the economy just to exist. Did you know about any of this?
Why such a change of tone in this post? Are my combacks beating your arguments down so much that it's backing you into a corner so you decide to resort to tactics of attacking my behaviour, and personality? I've had my one what exactly?
Here, I'll give you a little tidbit about myself. I'm pro-gun, I've shot a gun before, and liked it. I'd like to get my gun liscence so I can purchase a firearm myself for sport and recreational shooting. And I also believe in better gun control laws and penalties.
Criminals will always be on the streets, always have, and always will,only so many will be taken off the streets, and as fast as some areput away, more appear, it is an impossible chore.They even turn them out onto the street, when the jails become too crowded.They have progressed so far, they are sometimes ahead of the police intechnology, it is a losing battle.And our corporate crooks make sure they manufacture all the people killing guns they can, and have big gun shows so that they don't missanyone, 'must sell all those guns', but we won't take any responsibilityfor anything, guns are so innocent, and we musn't dissapoint our'customers', well, of course not, there is so much money to be made,the more customers, the more money.It's all about money, just as wars are, wars are for corporate america,for making money, but we have no power to do anything about that, andwhen we come up with the logical and truthful statements about theguns, we are told that it is unconstitutionally wrong to do anythingabout controlling the carrying of guns, corporate america doesn't care about the safetyof the regular person on the street, it's the bottom line they areconcerned with, we mean 'nothing' to them.It is so easy to kill someone with a gun, but if I ever wanted to killsomeone, let's see, how would I do it, drive over them with my car?,nope, stab them with a sharp knife, nope, maybe a bow and arrow, nope,how about a large sabre, uh uh, maybe I would ask them to a dual, nope,Kill them with my fists, nope, of course, the only clean way to killsomeone, from a distance, then quickly disappear, is to shoot them.
In Canada there must still be time to begin to control any 'human killing' gun being sold, if anything is criminal, that is.It should be illegal to manufacture guns specifically made for killing people.
We had perfectly good firearms regs before the Hypogrits stuck us for $2.5 billion of worthless registry because of a kneejerk reaction over an incident where some quack shot 14 people at a Quebec technical school. Do you people really think that the fool wouldn't have done that if the firearm he used being registered?
I'm not too clear on what a "human killing" gun is. But, given how many guns are out there right now, making it illegal to manufacture those types of guns, and given the lifespan of an average gun, it might take centuries (or many decades) to lose them all through "attrition." Don't think that would work, based on what I know...any other ideas?
Registered or not, if someone wants to use a gun to kill people, it's likely gonna' happen. In other words, you can easily take a registered gun and shoot somebody with it. So how does registering it make it safer?
I know people that hate guns (and I appreciate their viewpoint on that) just want to "ban" all guns but I don't think that would be all that enforceable. Nor would it be that wise. Why? Because there are - according to the news media and others - a ton of illegal, unregistered guns out there now. If you ban ALL guns, the only ones the authorities would be able to round up would be the legally registered ones because I'm assuming they don't know where the illegal ones are located. (If they did, I suppose they would already have them "in custody." Now, if you remove all the legally-registered ones, thus leaving only unregistered ones (probaby owned by the bad guys), then what we would essentially have done is created a disaster. An armed population of criminals and bad guys vs. law-abiding citizens completely unarmed.
So please tell me exactly how this would reduce the number of gun crimes? Please!
I remember when Paul Martin was interviewed on a Toronto street a few years ago, after someone was killed by a stray bullet. He specifically used the words "ban guns" to describe how he would prevent this from happening in the future. I remember thinking at the time that - although those are might strong words - perhaps his mouth kicked in before his brain got going. But no, he continued to repeat that chant over and over again in the ensuing weeks. Which then led me to believe that he must have thought we were all pretty stupid to think that a gun ban would actually do anything to prevent gun-related crimes from happening. I'm glad he's not around any more, but there are more like him out there. Too bad, but that's politics, I guess.
If people could calm down long enough to REALLY THINK IT THROUGH, it might become obvious that the real question is this: What motivates murderers to murder? I'm sure there are a variety of answers to that question, but it begs to be answered. Why? Because that's called getting to the root cause of the problem...the problem being that people are killing other people. With guns. And other things too. But it should be obvious - and yes, you've heard this one before - it is people killing people. Is it that difficult to understand?
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The idea of banning guns here is inane. In the UK, fine because they don't have the US as a neighbor. lol But even then, people are using knives to kill each other over there. And as I said earlier, the wingnut that killed those 4 cops could just as easily have driven a gravel truck or something into the cafe and killed everyone there. "Oh god, what have I done? My throttle stuck".
I know that, you know that, and so lots of other people. But there are still a bunch of folks out there who believe that banning guns is the only way to go. I simply can't connect those dots together and make it come out looking logical.
I wonder how many of those folks screaming for a gun ban are the same ones who have contributed in some way to a justice system that lets criminals roam the streets after a short stay in jail, because they have certain rights and freedoms, etc. I guarantee you there are some! I don't normally get po'd when I write, but that picture is beginning to get me a bit steamed up. Maybe we should take a simple poll and see how it all adds up...the two questions might be...1. Do you believe in a gun ban, and 2. Do you believe in the death penalty for anyone convicted of killing another person with a gun? Woo-ee, I'd love to see some honest answers to those questions. If the answers came out like 1. Yes and 2. No, then I'd have to say that we have a huge and quite insurmountable problem on our hands that will never go away.
Well, exactly, the gun is just one of a thousand weapons that can be used to kill people. If the amount of effort that was made to get guns registered was put toward locking up criminals, we would no longer have a problem with guns or criminals. Oh Anna, with modern technology, I doubt if "my throttle stuck" would fly.