Sikhs Allowed To Carry Kirpan (knives) To Olympic Events
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I know. I was only playing with the way you worded it.
Watch out for the monster in your closet.
I think perhaps Guru Gobind Singh should have told his followers that they should carry kirpans unless they are in places where weapons carrying is not allowed ordinarily. Lack of foresight on his part.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Gobind_Singh
If you look at it that way, no right is absolute, TenPenny, not even the right to free speech. You don’t have the right to yell ‘fire’ in a crowded theater.
I suppose if any right could be considered absolute it is the right to life. Other than that, I think all the rights are subject to reasonable restrictions.
SJP -What door did you fall of - you are such a Knob at times - Do you know the max length of the kirpan that can be carried??
You are right, Risus, this is an armchair discussion. I live in Ontario, there is no way I am going to travel all the way to BC to attend the Olympics. For that matter even if they take place in Toronto, I still wouldn’t go, I don’t like crowded places.
Much better to watch the Olympics on television, in the privacy of your home, where you can get up to get a beer, to get a snack etc.
Did you bother to read the original article, Goober? It says the kirpan may be a maximum of 7.5 inches long, with the blade no more than 4 inches. Where does a 3 ft kirpan come in?
SJP The question should be did you bother to read the Article - The Sikh must be Baptized -All 5 symbols must be worn of which the Kirpan is one of the 5 - and that the Kirpan must not be easily accessible - Did I get it right Boss? Again - I ask which door did you fall off?
But again, you referred to a 3 ft kirpan a few times. Where does the 3 ft kirpan come in?
SJP - I gave the description of how the length varies - that was all - You went sarcastic.
So how many people have been attacked on a plane by a pair of nail clippers?
Aha. Now you're starting to understand the idea of 'absolute' rights, and the silliness of using that word when you don't mean it.
So you've agreed that freedom of religion doesn't trump public safety, except at the Olympics, apparently.
So what makes the Olympics sacred to Sikhs?
Just for some perspective, and nothing more...of the two knives I always
carry, the larger of the two being a folding lock-blade belt knife. It has a
blade length of 2+3/4" and an overall length of 6+3/4"....
From Wikipedia (among other places) can be found:
Typically made from iron, kirpans range in blade size from 3 inches (7.6 cm) to
over 3 feet (90 cm), though Sikhs in the West wear kirpans with a blade of about
3.5 inches (9 cm). Most Sikhs wear the kirpan under their clothes and most
people observing a random Sikh would not be aware that he was carrying a
kirpan. To the Sikhs, it is a highly important religious symbol; it is rarely used as
a weapon.
SJP - Your postPost 362
If that happens, that will be the end of Sikhs being permitted to carry kirpan in a public place. And that is why I don’t see it happening.
SJP Please note below -
The ISU has noted a few examples of Kirpans uses as a weapon - Does that change your mind now?
Sikhs will be allowed to wear kirpan at Olympics
Research by the Integrated Security Unit indicated there are very few examples of a kirpan being used as a weapon, therefore it is reasonable to expect no additional risk at the venues.
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