Anouncing a new web site: The Science of 9/11

[YukonJack]

Two versions of George Walker Bush, according to the Left:

1. Total dunce who could not speak and was a puppet on Dick Cheney's string.
2. Evil genius, who master minded the destruction of two of the world's tallest buildings.

Well, which is it?

 

[AnnaG]

Two versions of George Walker Bush, according to the Left:

1. Total dunce who could not speak and was a puppet on Dick Cheney's string.
2. Evil genius, who master minded the destruction of two of the world's tallest buildings.

Well, which is it?

lol One would think that there are two lefts then and that neither are right.

 

[CDNBear]

World Trade Center Towers Core was Concrete 9/11

9-11 Research: The Core Structures

Lynn Stuter -- Purdue University weighs in on WTC towers collapse

ad infinitum

What I gather is that the rigidity was supplied by the peripheral structures and most of the load-bearing but not all was supplied by the series of inner tubes (the "core"). Tubes are stronger than solid shafts for strength. (Dumb book doesn't explain why, though )

:lol:

The WTC's outside walls took 50% of the load. The 'core' 30%. This is the gist of the 'cores' importance. As I've stated, it was an almost freestanding structure. It was a housing of sorts, for elevators, stairwells, utility services and ducting. The theoretical weight placed upon the 'core', by C/T's, out weighs its actual significance.

Which is ultimately my point.

 

[Kakato]

It was the joos

 

[AnnaG]

:lol:

The WTC's outside walls took 50% of the load. The 'core' 30%. This is the gist of the 'cores' importance. As I've stated, it was an almost freestanding structure. It was a housing of sorts, for elevators, stairwells, utility services and ducting. The theoretical weight placed upon the 'core', by C/T's, out weighs its actual significance.

Which is ultimately my point.

Lemme see ... 50% plus 30% = 80%. 20% of the WTC towers must still be standing somewhere.
I understand your point and I am no construction engineer, but I do have some sense between my ears.

 

[CDNBear]

Lemme see ... 50% plus 30% = 80%. 20% of the WTC towers must still be standing somewhere.
I understand your point and I am no construction engineer, but I do have some sense between my ears.

My bad, inner columns, took up the remaining 20%.

The inner columns were ostensibly there to dampen drift and flex.

And Anna, I have no misgivings about your senses.

 

[petros]

It was the joos

O.J "the Jews" Simpson?

 

[petros]

I disagree. The "conspiracists" that think it was a demo job are not using facts.

Nuts. You are ASSuming that all the trees are different. I did not say they were.

Some people need to fully understand the word "theory' before using it. Some goes for conspiracy.

One theory says a whack of former Mujahdeen and Saudi whack jobs conspired in Afghanistan and pulled it off.


ALL of this is 100% THEORY.

 

[CDNBear]

ALL of this is 100% THEORY.

This is true.

But some theory is actually founded on good science, not ideology and assumptions.

 

[petros]

This is true.

But some theory is actually founded on good science, not ideology and assumptions.

True but the only way to fully understand the science is to do it again and again and again. Some baffling things need answers and reproducing the cause and effect is the only way. Until then it shall all remain as theoretical science with "belief" skewing everything.

 

[CDNBear]

True but the only way to fully understand the science is to do it again and again and again. Some baffling things need answers and reproducing the cause and effect is the only way. Until then it shall all remain as theoretical science with "belief" skewing everything.

On some levels, a resounding yes.

But when it comes to certain facts, theory has long since been put to bed. A simple fact lost on most C/T's.

 

[AnnaG]

Some people need to fully understand the word "theory' before using it. Some goes for conspiracy.

One theory says a whack of former Mujahdeen and Saudi whack jobs conspired in Afghanistan and pulled it off.


ALL of this is 100% THEORY.

BS. Not all of it is theory. Theory relies upon facts. A lot of people are simply spewing BS like "Kerosene fires would not weaken a structure that is 'boxed' every 12 ft ".

 

[petros]

On some levels, a resounding yes.

But when it comes to certain facts, theory has long since been put to bed. A simple fact lost on most C/T's.

You can't change the past. We'll have to wait for the next collapse someday some where to verify that past.

 

[petros]

BS. Not all of it is theory. Theory relies upon facts. A lot of people are simply spewing BS like "Kerosene fires would not weaken a structure that is 'boxed' every 12 ft ".

Hey I didn't define those words. I'm not Mr Oxford. If you are going to use those words please use them right.

 

[CDNBear]

You can't change the past. We'll have to wait for the next collapse someday some where to verify that past.

A thought I don't wish to see become reality.

Not that the science isn't already there to eliminate that need.

 

[AnnaG]

Hey I didn't define those words. I'm not Mr Oxford. If you are going to use those words please use them right.

What words? Theory is a scenario designed to tie facts together into a plausible explanation. Not everyone here is using facts, therefore their hypotheses are screwy.

 

[petros]

A thought I don't wish to see become reality.

Not that the science isn't already there to eliminate that need.

Science can only establish a theory of what happened. I've been trying to get that point across. Theories are part fact and part hypothesis based on prior modeling as is this incident.

 

[petros]

What words? Theory is a scenario designed to tie facts together into a plausible explanation. Not everyone here is using facts, therefore their hypotheses are screwy.

See above.

 

[CDNBear]

Science can only establish a theory of what happened. I've been trying to get that point across. Theories are part fact and part hypothesis based on prior modeling as is this incident.

But there are certain inalienable facts about steel, the speed in which things fall etc. That nullify some extraordinary claims by the C/T crowd.

 

[YukonJack]

I wish I was the attorney of the person/persons who will prove beyond a doubt that it was Bush/Cheney who was responsible for 9/11. I would be rich beyond belief. I would have everlasting fame. I would be in history books along with the greatest of them all.
I would be far more clever than any attorney who has ever lived so far.

Since no such attorney has yet emerged, it is plan that the theory is TOTALLY BOGUS.