Monsanto's Uphill Battle in Germany

[Tonington]

No, it is nonsense. I don't need to ask a naturopath how biochemistry works...I know how enzymes work. The addition of one gene, which doesn't change the nutritional properties of the corn, is not going to change the way your bodies enzymes react with the lysine in the corn. That's plain ignorance to suggest such a thing.

You've just been frightened by the GM boogeyman. If we selectively bred the plant to produce a chemical to fight the moths (we do), you wouldn't hear anything about this( I'd bet you haven't). You probably don't realize as an example how much insect resistance is bred into the rice you eat, assuming you eat rice at all. Insect resistance that is only found in a tiny fraction of wild plants, so much so that it is beyond the expected genotypes that you would find in the wild source of the rice.

 

[AnnaG]

There's a very disturbing video called "The World According to Monsanto" which used to be available on You Tube, and Download Free Political Documentaries And Watch Many Interesting, Controversial Free Documentary Films On That You Wont Find On The TV!, I believe.

Seems like both of them have been pulled.

Monsanto's goal seems to be to control and patent both seeds and animals, with the final result being; if they don't sell the seeds, it won't get grown.

Try googling "the world according to monsanto", and you might get lucky and get a copy of the vid before monsanto orders it taken down.

Scary shyte.

Yup. Les & I posted it in another thread a few weeks ago. It is scary.

 

[AnnaG]

No, it is nonsense. I don't need to ask a naturopath how biochemistry works...I know how enzymes work. The addition of one gene, which doesn't change the nutritional properties of the corn, is not going to change the way your bodies enzymes react with the lysine in the corn. That's plain ignorance to suggest such a thing.

You've just been frightened by the GM boogeyman. If we selectively bred the plant to produce a chemical to fight the moths (we do), you wouldn't hear anything about this( I'd bet you haven't). You probably don't realize as an example how much insect resistance is bred into the rice you eat, assuming you eat rice at all. Insect resistance that is only found in a tiny fraction of wild plants, so much so that it is beyond the expected genotypes that you would find in the wild source of the rice.

Yup.
I would have no problem irradiating my food or using particular pesticides, but I do have a problem with some of Monsanto's stunts and its motive. Same with Wyeth and Pfiser. I'll mess with my own food to what I want it to be, thanks.

 

[Tonington]

I have a problem with some of Monsanto's stunts and moves as well. But not the issue raised above by taxslave. They are frankly, ridiculous.

 

[barney]

If we selectively bred the plant to produce a chemical to fight the moths (we do), you wouldn't hear anything about this( I'd bet you haven't). You probably don't realize as an example how much insect resistance is bred into the rice you eat, assuming you eat rice at all. Insect resistance that is only found in a tiny fraction of wild plants, so much so that it is beyond the expected genotypes that you would find in the wild source of the rice.

Breeding crops over time is not the same as introducing material directly into the cell. Neither you nor anybody else knows what the consequences of transgenics will be (that's putting aside issues of contamination).

Suggesting that those who question genetic manipulation of this nature are naive is, in this case, quite pompously naive.

Yup.
I would have no problem irradiating my food or using particular pesticides, but I do have a problem with some of Monsanto's stunts and its motive. Same with Wyeth and Pfiser. I'll mess with my own food to what I want it to be, thanks.

Uh huh and when you develop cancer from the accumulated absorbed radiation and other toxins, we all have to pay through the nose to keep you alive. See this is why there have to be laws keeping ALL harmful products off the market: too many people aren't responsible in what they consume and that is harmful to society.

you might it here....................

the world according to monsanto - Dogpile Web Search


Controlling Our Food#

Informative to a degree but very melodramatic; I get a chuckle when these documentaries add the sinister background music whenever the big, bad, evil company does something nasty.

What's more it merely preaches to the converted; if you want to reach the masses, you need to make a feature film that simplifies the whole thing through characters that people can personally relate to (e.g. Costa-Gavras' film, "Missing" with Jack Lemmon).


All that said, I never cease to find it colossally pathetic that people endlessly blame the company for everything; its job is to maximize profits by any means necessary, and it's doing a fine job. Any other priorities that might exist are rescinded the moment they interfere with that (so don't expect them to self-regulate). Don't like it? Maybe you shouldn't have spent the last few decades voting for governments that represent the very same interests as those companies you love to hate so much.

Putting aside regulations (i.e. to reign in companies), the fact that any country would even allow for the formation of a private entity whose primary purpose blatantly contradicts the--supposed--purpose of the state (i.e. to serve and protect the population as a whole) is awe-inspiring in its insanity.

 

[AnnaG]

Anna's version of pesticide is lime/sulphur (on our fruit trees) in the fall. Lime in the soil at gardening time. Toxins? Hardly.

Irradiation? Don't buy into the hysteria. We don't. Food Irradiation Photons and electrons don't leave radiation other than a little heat.

We grow most of our own food anyway. As I said, particular pesticides.

 

[Stretch]

Monsanto Under Investigation by Seven US States


Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:51

'At least seven US state attorneys general are investigating whether Monsanto Company has abused its market power to lock out competitors and raise prices on seed. Iowa, Illinois, Ohio, Texas, Virginia, and two other unidentified states are in a working group to investigate the biotech giant.

The states are probing whether Monsanto violated laws by offering rebates to seed distributors for excluding rival seeds, imposing limits on combining the product with other genetic modifications, or offering cash incentives to switch farmers to more expensive generation of seed varieties.'
Read more: Monsanto Under Investigation by Seven US States

 

[CDNBear]

Monsanto Under Investigation by Seven US States


Tuesday, 13 April 2010 06:51

'At least seven US state attorneys general are investigating whether Monsanto Company has abused its market power to lock out competitors and raise prices on seed. Iowa, Illinois, Ohio, Texas, Virginia, and two other unidentified states are in a working group to investigate the biotech giant.

The states are probing whether Monsanto violated laws by offering rebates to seed distributors for excluding rival seeds, imposing limits on combining the product with other genetic modifications, or offering cash incentives to switch farmers to more expensive generation of seed varieties.'
Read more: Monsanto Under Investigation by Seven US States

OK, before I put a hole in your article Stretch, I support your premise here. I have a serious issue with Monsanto.

The problem is, this is one monster, trying to eat another.

I can understand how any litigation against Monsanto might appear to be good. But these states aren't going after Monsanto because their product is detrimental to the world food supply. They're going after Monsanto, because Monsanto's compeditors have cried foul.

If Monsanto were to fall tomorrow, DuPont would simply pick up where they left off.

This is a case of helping one rabid dog, bite another rabid dog.

In the end, you still have a rabid dog on your hands.