Toronto Belongs To The Indians

gerryh

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What do you mean Bear? That it belonged to my Gramma? That wouldn't be hard. Actually, after my grandparents died it was passed onto my Mom and her 6 siblings. All of them are dead now. I even know the people who own it now (unless they've sold and moved but since they have lived in the town since I was a kid I assume they still live there. At the time my very foolish Uncle sold the poperty it even had full power. We have an old map of the area - a very old map. It identified things via property owners along with known landmarks. It has the ranch well marked.


No, you can't claimit back. Your Uncle was given full power legally todo with as he wanted and he sold it. At the time of the sale it could have been contested by the heirs, but it is too late now.
 

VanIsle

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Was it Treatied land ... or just a crook pulling an estate swindle? Landclaims don't work that way. You have the right to enrich a lawyer by taking him to court....
lol I don't think so. It was a land grant given to my great grandfather and he was white. He married my great gramma who was full blooded native. That of course made their only heir a half breed. By the time it gets to me means I am only 1/8 but the property still belonged to my Gramma for years. My G.Grampa was from Ontario. My G.Gramma was the daughter of a chief (Cowichan). I doubt that any of it matters at all. The property was sold long ago and there are so many of us to divide it up with that it would be better to just leave it in the hands of those who own it now even if it was possible to do something with it. Besides - they are good people.
 

VanIsle

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No, you can't claimit back. Your Uncle was given full power legally todo with as he wanted and he sold it. At the time of the sale it could have been contested by the heirs, but it is too late now.
I agree.
 

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Bull, Bull, & bull.
Being full of it, I have no doubt you need to vent some.

Bitch at you?
Yes, because I called you exactly what you are.
I didn't talk to you.
Ya I know, because you usually get your ass handed to on a platter.
I also didn't say the natives received that money.
That's true, you alluded to it. You've learned well how to attempt to hide your bigotry.

The money goes to the DNIA and a good part of it is wasted there.
That's funny, because in your next sentence...
The longer we keep native Canadians on the public teat, the worse it will be, but I've also said that many times on these boards over the last few years but you prefer to play the stupid race card.
You go on to blame us for being at the Gov't teat, then cry I pull the race card when I've exposed you for what you are time and time again.

A person doesn't have to be a racist to be tired of his/her money being thrown away for years with no good result.
This is true, it's when they continuously and willfully blame the wrong people, that their racism is shown.

Beautiful Anna, thanx for saving me the trouble.

It appears that the ones being enabled are government employees. If the majority is skimmed off by bureaucrats of every level, then I think all this angst about natives is a little misplaced.
Bingo!!!

If you really want to do something constructive, learn how you can withhold paying taxes. If you are willingly giving your money to bureaucrats who spend it in ways you don't approve, who is to blame?
Everybody.

I know the story. It's why I mentioned his name. The guy is as crooked as a snake with multiple spinal fractures.
He isn't alone.

You are one of the few people who do.
She isn't alone.

What do you mean Bear?
Nope, that the sale was illegal, or your family still possesses legal mineral rights.
 

gerryh

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another whining oped



ALL School districts whine about being under funded and either running deficits or having short falls. There are School districts in "white eye" country that have had 200 million dollar shortfalls on their own, let alone the entire first Nations.:roll:


This shows that the feds ARE funding new schools for First nations, contrary to the whining of the previous articles.
 

gerryh

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This is true, it's when they continuously and willfully blame the wrong people, that their racism is shown.

Beautiful Anna, thanx for saving me the trouble.

Don't be so quick to thank someone for fluff, unless of course all these links that YOU have saved are also just so much fluff.

Bingo!!!

Everybody.

He isn't alone.

She isn't alone.

Really, yet in the link that anna provided, which i quoted above, it goes on and on and on and on about how responsible the Leadership is, and how they don't waste money and and and...... kinda contradicting yourselves aren't ya?

Nope, that the sale was illegal, or your family still possesses legal mineral rights.

Really.....and why is that, because her GGran was native? Her GGranfather was WHITE, the will stipulated the uncle had complete control. This was NOT treaty land...so....why the hell should the decendents have ANY claim to the damn land.
 

CDNBear

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Don't be so quick to thank someone for fluff, unless of course all these links that YOU have saved are also just so much fluff.
Don't challenge my Kung Fu Grasshopper...Lest you find own foot in mouth!



MISS CONCEPTION, HOUSING AND EDUCATION
All Aboriginal people receive free housing and post-secondary education.
FACTS

Métis and non-Status Indians do not receive free housing or education assistance.
Housing and education are important legal benefits of some treaties for Treaty First Nations.

Under DIAND’s on-reserve housing policy, Status Indians living on-reserve obtain funds through their band councils to build or renovate their homes. In many cases they repay these loans over a number of years.

Low income non-Aboriginal families in various regions of Canada seeking housing assistance from governments may also receive assistance through various programs offered by the federal and provincial governments.

DIAND provides elementary education assistance for on-reserve status Indians, and post-secondary education assistance to Inuit and Status Indians to help improve their standard of living.

While Status Indian students receive post-secondary assistance through their band councils, they can also receive provincial financial assistance in the form of grants or loans that must be repaid.

Federal funding for post-secondary education has remained the same since 1987, except for the 2 to 3% increase per year approved by the Treasury Board. At the same time, the number of Inuit and Status Indians applying is up and tuition fees keep rising, so fewer and fewer students access education funding.
http://www.afn.ca/cmslib/general/FS-TM-e.pdf

Really, yet in the link that anna provided, which i quoted above, it goes on and on and on and on about how responsible the Leadership is, and how they don't waste money and and and...... kinda contradicting yourselves aren't ya?
Nope. Are all Non Natives racist Gh? Nope.

Really.....and why is that, because her GGran was native? Her GGranfather was WHITE, the will stipulated the uncle had complete control. This was NOT treaty land...so....why the hell should the decendents have ANY claim to the damn land.
I cut her reply short by accident. It should have read...

What do you mean Bear? That it belonged to my Gramma?
Nope, that the sale was illegal, or your family still possesses legal mineral rights.

As in she would have to prove the sale was not legit. She mentioned they retained the mineral rights. If there has not been active maintenance on those rights. The Gov't may have expropriated them.
 
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quoting Cdnbear

Quoting #juan Bull, Bull, & bull.
Being full of it, I have no doubt you need to vent some.

Quote: Bitch at you?
Yes, because I called you exactly what you are.
Quote: I didn't talk to you.
Ya I know, because you usually get your ass handed to on a platter.
Quote: I also didn't say the natives received that money.
That's true, you alluded to it. You've learned well how to attempt to hide your bigotry.

Quote: The money goes to the DNIA and a good part of it is wasted there.
That's funny, because in your next sentence...
Quote: The longer we keep native Canadians on the public teat, the worse it will be, but I've also said that many times on these boards over the last few years but you prefer to play the stupid race card.
You go on to blame us for being at the Gov't teat, then cry I pull the race card when I've exposed you for what you are time and time again.

Quote: A person doesn't have to be a racist to be tired of his/her money being thrown away for years with no good result.
This is true, it's when they continuously and willfully blame the wrong people, that their racism is shown.

Go and have a look at Davis Inlet where the feds have built a new village including all the infrastructure,houses, water, sewer, power, etc., so the natives could sit around playing bingo while their kids sniffed gasoline. If you read a little history of the area, you'd know this is the second village built for these people and after five years it is an overcrowded slum like the last one. Yeah, it's racism because I didn't get a house and everything handed to me because of my race. I paid for my own education and bought my own house and so did my kids. Go and whine somewhere else.
 

CDNBear

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Go and have a look at Davis Inlet where the feds have built a new village including all the infrastructure,houses, water, sewer, power, etc., so the natives could sit around playing bingo while their kids sniffed gasoline. If you read a little history of the area, you'd know this is the second village built for these people and after five years it is an overcrowded slum like the last one. Yeah, it's racism because I didn't get a house and everything handed to me because of my race. I paid for my own education and bought my own house and so did my kids. Go and whine somewhere else.
:lol: Thanx for proving me right #juan.

Every Native in Canada is just like the few you an issue with in Davis Inlet.

:roll:

Nope, you aren't racist at all...;-)

eta: Oh ya, here's your 'ass', yet again #juan.
 

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:lol: Thanx for proving me right #juan.

Every Native in Canada is just like the few you an issue with in Davis Inlet.

:roll:

Nope, you aren't racist at all...;-)

eta: Oh ya, here's your 'ass', yet again #juan.

Dream on...
 

karrie

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Well, my view, is that we need to pack up our native leaders, and our top politicians, and air drop them all into the Gaza strip. Leave them there for a month.

Then, bring them home, and see if they want to carry on centuries more of grudges over land.

Lay out a map, lay out the cheque books, and get it done once and for all. Canadians, the lot of us.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Well, my view, is that we need to pack up our native leaders, and our top politicians, and air drop them all into the Gaza strip. Leave them there for a month.

Then, bring them home, and see if they want to carry on centuries more of grudges over land.

Lay out a map, lay out the cheque books, and get it done once and for all. Canadians, the lot of us.


How 'bout a different spin on this issue.

Yes....."some and all" are two very different things, but there is
a very real problem with the current situation. The system is not
working as well as it could or should be.

Not honoring the Treaties is not a valid option. Continuing things
as they currently are (the status quo) isn't creating a healthy and
feasible situation that should carry on indefinitely.

"What do we do?" was going to be my question....and then Karrie
offers up a solution before I could finish hammering out the
question. ;-) :lol::lol::lol:
 

CDNBear

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Dream on...
No dreaming required. Your words say it all.

We're all bingo playing housing destroying gas sniffing whiners. All because some Native Canadians are like that in Davis Inlet.

That pretty much says all there is to say about you and your bigotry #juan.

I have proven to you time and time again, that not only are we not all like that. We do not all get free housing, we do not all collect welfare, we do not all get a free education, we do not all huff gas or live in a bingo hall.

But that is your perception of the whole of the native community.

There are over 30,000 Native owned businesses in Canada.

Canadian Council for Aboriginal Business

Some even in BC, go figure.

How many First Nations Doctors, lawyers, teachers, politicians, entertainers, or leaders of industry are there juan?

You have no idea, you wouldn't waste the time to actually learn about a people you obviously despise so much.

You are a racist #juan. I understand why. It's you that doesn't.
 

Ron in Regina

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How 'bout a different spin on this issue.

Yes....."some and all" are two very different things, but there is
a very real problem with the current situation. The system is not
working as well as it could or should be.

Not honoring the Treaties is not a valid option. Continuing things
as they currently are (the status quo) isn't creating a healthy and
feasible situation that should carry on indefinitely.


What do we do? Beating each other up isn't going to solve anything,
but putting your heads together, what can you come up with?
 

CDNBear

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What do we do? Beating each other up isn't going to solve anything, but putting your heads together, what can you come up with?
I get what you're getting at, you can't reason with people like juan Ron.

People like that have no need of fact. They wallow in their crappulent and bigoted notions of what (insert race here) are like and that is final. No amount of fact, will change their minds. They haven't got one. You can't reason with them, they haven't the capacity to reason. You can come to some negotiated settlement, their ability to comprehend reality is to limited.
 

karrie

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"What do we do?" was going to be my question....and then Karrie
offers up a solution before I could finish hammering out the
question. ;-) :lol::lol::lol:


lol... what can I say Ron. I'm a mom, and thus, I have two basic rules...

1. No crying over spilled milk.
2. Clean up the fricking milk before it gets under the fridge and causes an ungodly stink.