Quit picking on Obama……

[DaSleeper]

Maybe you'll like this one better:smile:

In the interest of fair play and the fun thread this was meant to be.....:smile:

YouTube - Bush Mispronounces Names

 

[Walter]

The Obama Watch

Obama Plays Defense

By Andrew Cline on 8.12.09 @ 6:10AM
President Obama gave an extraordinary performance at his "town hall" meeting in Portsmouth, N.H., on Tuesday. There was no soaring oratory or fainting crowd (although it was a very friendly audience). Actually, overall, the affair was rather dull and unmemorable. What was extraordinary was seeing the president of the United States -- this president of the United States -- spend more than an hour limply defending himself against critics who were neither named nor present on the premises, but rather omnipresent in the very air.
Obama came to New Hampshire to stop the bleeding. His campaign for massive health care reform is dying of 1,000 bipartisan cuts, and the White House senses that time is running out. His diagnosis: Expose the critics as liars. It didn't work.
The president said that people were misrepresenting the Democrats' proposals. He said, "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. You won't be waiting in any lines." He went to great lengths to deny that much of anything would change for anyone who likes his or her existing health care plan.
And that's where he failed. At the same time he was promising most everyone in America that health care reform would mean zero noticeable changes in their health insurance, he was attacking the "status quo" and explaining that if reform passes, everything will change.

The American Spectator : Obama Plays Defense

O'Bama looked and sounded anything but Presidential yesterday. Roo won't like the link; too right-wing

 

[FiveParadox]

Re: President’s Health Care Proposal

I have to question the legitimacy, Walter, of a news source that heralds a department termed “The Obama Watch”. It’s more than apparent that this is nothing but a witch hunt—the president’s proposed health care reforms are not a recipe for the destruction of the United States of America; it is not a socialist agenda. I have not yet heard a single argument related to health care on the conservative side of the debate—the arguments have been restricted to personal attacks against His Excellency the Honorable Barack Obama, President of the United States.

 

[DaSleeper]

Not really about Obama............but who cares........Hey????:roll:

YouTube - Amber Chat (chats over, come back next week...)

 

[DaSleeper]

SirJosephPorter: You sound much more American than I do:roll:......Man you take this sh*t way too seriously.......this was meant to be a fun thread...non partisan...since I put in a few of Bush's Boo boo's in there too....Maybe If I had called him Bushco and put in a few more of his faux pas it would have satisfied your left wing point of view? yes?:lol:
If I didn't put enough.......then I apologize and will try to do better in the future to meet with your requirements......Cheers:lol:

Amen:lol::lol:

 

[Walter]

Obamacare: The “Post Office” of Health Care Plans

At his orchestrated townhall event today, President Obama defended the notion that his government-run public health care plan wouldn’t crowd out private insurers by referencing the symbiotic relationship between UPS, Fedex and the Post Office. Bad timing Mr. President. On Friday, the New York Times Business Section actually called for the privatization of the post office amid staggering losses, and even said it was in “General Motors territory.” So while the President sells you on his “post office” of health care plans, here are some questions to consider:
1.) The U.S. Post Office is the only entity allowed by federal law to deliver first class mail to your mailbox. In fact, Fedex and UPS are strictly prohibited from delivering “non-urgent” letters. If the government can fairly compete and is setting fair rules, wouldn’t the post office be open to competition at your mailbox?
2.) If Americans were offered “free” postage paid for by massive government spending and tax hikes, would Fedex and UPS still exist?
3.) The Post Office is on track to lose a staggering $7 billion this year alone. How will a government-run health care plan manage taxpayer resources more efficiently?
4.) Postmaster General John Potter says he lacks the “tools” necessary to run the Post Office effectively like a business. Would a government-run health care system have the tools it needs to run as effectively as the private sector entities it is replacing?
5.) On the one hand, the President remarks how great his public health care plan will be. On the other hand, he notes it won’t be good enough to crowd out your private insurance, i.e. the Post Office comparison. So which is it Mr. President? Will it be so great that private insurance disappears or so awful that it isn’t worth creating in the first place?
6.) But the most important question is this: if you have an urgent piece of mail you need delivered, life or death, who are you going to call? Everyone saying the government…please raise your hands. (crickets)
The most frightening line from Joe Nocera’s New York Times piece is this: “As for Mr. Potter himself, while he may want more freedom to run the Postal Service like a real business, he, too, seemed surprisingly wedded to outmoded ideas about mail service in America. ‘This country needs to have and to protect universal service,’ he said.”
Protecting universal service at the expense of cost, innovation, and quality of care. Sound familiar?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I have to question the legitimacy, Walter, of a news source that heralds a department termed “The Obama Watch”. It’s more than apparent that this is nothing but a witch hunt—the president’s proposed health care reforms are not a recipe for the destruction of the United States of America; it is not a socialist agenda. I have not yet heard a single argument related to health care on the conservative side of the debate—the arguments have been restricted to personal attacks against His Excellency the Honorable Barack Obama, President of the United States.

All of Walter’s sources are like that, FiveParadox, he quotes almost exclusively from extreme right wing websites, from extreme right wing columnists.

Google for any of the authors he quotes, you will find that they belong to the far right. As far as I am concerned, anything he posts lacks credibility.

There is lot of trash, garbage on the internet, anybody can post anything. It doesn’t need any proof, any backup, any evidence. That is why I quote only from the reputable sources, such as CNN, Globe and Mail, BBC etc. Anything Walter quotes (American Thinker etc.) can safely be regarded as extremist rant.

 

[Cannuck]

Not really about Obama............but who cares........Hey????:roll:

YouTube - Amber Chat (chats over, come back next week...)

I agree

YouTube - Sara Varone Compilation

 

[DaSleeper]

#1 Obama Fan..:lol:

YouTube - Obama's #1 Fan

 

[Walter]

August 12, 2009
Presidential Dissonance

Lance Fairchok

cognitive dissonance: noun : psychological conflict resulting from incongruous beliefs and attitudes held simultaneously
​

Yesterday at a softball town hall meeting stuffed with pre-screened supporters, President Obama said the following: "UPS and FedEx are doing just fine; it's the post office that's always having problems."


Oh the irony! That the President would, in so simple and clueless a fashion, utter the most crystalline sentence I could imagine to debunk his own absurd policies. Private postal industries, performing in ways a government run enterprise cannot, are doing fine, while the Post Office, the eternal taxpayer money pit, is not. That simple truth should be broadcast far and wide, in the Presidents own words. Even the first Socialist American President, a man who is attempting to transform us into a nanny state identical to our European allies, understands at some level, that private enterprise is the most successful way to prosper as a nation. So why is he working so hard to undermine it?


Perhaps he is able, in his arrogance and narcissism, to actually hold two conflicting ideas in his head and not suffer the psychological conflict of cognitive dissonance. The ideological indoctrination of so many years of mentoring by radicals and leftist academics may have shaped an intellect so acrobatic in its logic and so convoluted in its cognitive processes that it does not see the contradiction, or is incapable of perceiving itself as hypocritical. Either way, the monumental hypocrisy of the statement in the context of his actions is abundantly clear for all to see. Americans are waking from their stupor.


One simple thoughtless delicious sentence could undo months of political manipulation and maneuvering. The Democrats will tie themselves up in knots trying to bury it. The spin that will come about this sentence will be a wonder to behold.

 

[FiveParadox]

Re: United States Postal Service

Thank you for the article, Walter—I may have to look more deeply into the other works of Mr. Lance Fairchok for more of his insight into the world of the United States’ Government corporations. Not that I would venture to speak for His Excellency the Honorable Barack Obama, the President of the United States of America, but I would suggest that it is possible for the president to push for the protection and strengthening of American Government corporations (such as the United States Postal Service) and recognise their present shortcomings simultaneously. One cannot strengthen a corporation when one cannot recognise its weaknesses. The Postal Service is able to perform its functions at a modest $235 per annum per residence—that seems to me to be a reasonable pricetag for service at every single address six days per week. I would encourage the United States to also preserve the Postal Service because it is your third-largest employer—seven hundred sixty thousand Americans have jobs thanks to this Government corporation.

It’s unfortunate that Mr. Lairchok reports that His Excellency is a “Socialist”, however. :-?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Thank you for the article, Walter—I may have to look more deeply into the other works of Mr. Lance Fairchok for more of his insight into the world of the United States’ Government corporations.

Let me save you the trouble, FiveParadox. Lance Fairchok is a right wing extremist nutcase, a confirmed Obama hater, a regular contributor to the hate sheet, American Thinker.

Here are some of his articles in American Thinker:

The morning conference call and Democrat media manipulation

The Prince of Thieves (Obama, of course)

The Crime of the Century: The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008

According to this luminary, economic stimulus by Obama was a worse crime than Hitler’s holocaust or Stalin's slaughter of 20 million plus people(it was the crime of the century, after all). I assume he probably thought that the Bush economic stimulus was a stroke of genius.

Another Obama Marxist

Terrorists, Marxists, Leftists and the Democrats

To him, of course, they all look alike. Democrat, terrorist, Marxist, what is the difference? A typical Obama hater, a rabid right wing nutcase.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

It’s unfortunate that Mr. Lairchok reports that His Excellency is a “Socialist”, however.

‘Socialist’ is one of the milder epithets he has called Obama.

 

[Walter]

Massive campaign for Obama hits air
By: Mike Allen
August 13, 2009 06:28 AM EST
A new coalition on Thursday is launching $12 million in television ads to support President Barack Obama’s health-reform plan, in the opening wave of a planned tens of millions of dollars this fall.

The new group, funded largely by the pharmaceutical industry, is called Americans for Stable Quality Care. It includes some odd bedfellows: the American Medical Association, FamiliesUSA, the Federation of American Hospitals, PhRMA and SEIU, the service employees’ union.

The ads start airing at about 11 a.m. ET Thursday.

The group is likely to be the biggest spender in support of health reform. The campaign will serve as a counterweight to the critics at town meetings, which are getting saturation news coverage while Congress is out of town.

Mean big pharma, I guess they have O'Bama in their back pocket.

 

[ironsides]

Not really about Obama............but who cares........Hey????:roll:

YouTube - Amber Chat (chats over, come back next week...)

Very nice break.

 

[ironsides]

It’s unfortunate that Mr. Lairchok reports that His Excellency is a “Socialist”, however.

‘Socialist’ is one of the milder epithets he has called Obama.

What is wrong with telling the truth?

"He is, in fact, an associate of a Chicago-based Marxist group with access to millions of labor union dollars and connections to expert political consultants, including a convicted swindler."

Obama’s International Socialist Connections

 

[Cannuck]

Cliff Kincaid is a right wing extremist nutcase, a confirmed Obama hater, a regular contributor to the hate sheet, American Thinker....or so I've been told.

I find it fascinating that the Obama supporters have not actually refuted what has been posted here but instead have resorted to criticizing the source. I guess to some, if a political opponent says the sky is blue, it must not be so.

The Postal Service is able to perform its functions at a modest $235 per annum per residence—that seems to me to be a reasonable pricetag for service....

Modest? That is almost $1000/year/family of four. With ebanking, email and UPS, the need for the postal system is dropping. I wouldn't spend close to 1200 per year on postal service (I have a family of five). I think your post highlights the big difference between the left fringe and the rest of society. Spending 1200 dollars for what would cost 120 otherwise is deemed reasonable....that's funny.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

What is wrong with telling the truth?

"He is, in fact, an associate of a Chicago-based Marxist group with access to millions of labor union dollars and connections to expert political consultants, including a convicted swindler."

Obama’s International Socialist Connections

That does not make Obama a Socialist, ironsides. That is called ‘guilt by association’, McCarthy style.

Joseph McCarthy’s argument was that if someone has Communist friends, associates with Communists, he probably is a Communist. He conducted witch hunts and destroyed innumerable lives that way. Have you seen 'Tail Gunner Joe?'

Associating with Socialists makes Obama no more a Socialist than associating with a Pakistani doctor makes me a Muslim.

 

[ironsides]

That does not make Obama a Socialist, ironsides. That is called ‘guilt by association’, McCarthy style.

Joseph McCarthy’s argument was that if someone has Communist friends, associates with Communists, he probably is a Communist. He conducted witch hunts and destroyed innumerable lives that way. Have you seen 'Tail Gunner Joe?'

Associating with Socialists makes Obama no more a Socialist than associating with a Pakistani doctor makes me a Muslim.

The central point of Barack Obama’s economic plan is to tax the rich in order the give money to the poor. Of course, this is nothing more than the core philosophy of the welfare state. It is also the core principle of socialism.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

The central point of Barack Obama’s economic plan is to tax the rich in order the give money to the poor. Of course, this is nothing more than the core philosophy of the welfare state. It is also the core principle of socialism.

That is the core philosophy of every democracy in the world. Even Bush and your demigod, Reagan followed the same philosophy. During Bush and Regan presidencies, the rich were taxed, and the poor did receive welfare from government.

Where did you think the money for welfare come from, if not from taxing the rich? Now admittedly, both Reagan and Bush borrowed money like there is no tomorrow, they put the country into hock for decades to come. But borrowed money alone would not have funded anything. They both taxed the rich and gave money to the poor.

If you don’t want to tax the rich and give money to the poor, you probably want to go back to the Dark Ages of Europe, where noblemen lived high on the hog, while people died in the street of starvation and disease.