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bluedog

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You just don't get it do you..

If God want's that child now, he will take him by Abortion or any other method.. Period.. Man does not decide, God does..

You will not decide if he suffers, God will.. Hence he dies by Abortion or not.. Again not "your" choice..

You are not God..

You see you always say God does not want but you keep speaking for God..

My problem with that is God, almighty and powerful, can speak for himself.

So how do I know you don't represent the "other side" in sheep clothing ?

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Baaaaaaaa- humbug!:lol:

I was not saying God did not or will not take a child by abortion or any other means. He will provide for the innocent, I am sure you can get a handle on that.
I said, I say... it was innocent life. Economics, Selfishness or Politics whether individual and/or government was responsible for TAKING the choice to kill innocence. They must answer for innocent bloodshed, if not on this earth then later.

Innocence prevails over slaughter in all courts of fair justice.:fish:
I am not speaking for God. Just referring to His Word.
 

Francis2004

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Do you "ultra liberals" that there is no such thing as Female teachers raping young boys either right? What does Canada do with them? Instruct me please. --Just give the boys a brownie badge or something and let the woman run for politics instead of from a jail cell??

Please this is deteriorating badly:fish:

Just because we don't agree with you does not make us "Ultra liberal".

The problem might be rampant in the US but it does not make it an issues elsewhere, nor does it make it acceptable.

WILMINGTON, N.C. — The school district that employed a 40-year-old high-school science teacher and cross-country coach who married a 16-year-old student could find no reason to fire him, school officials said.

FOXNews.com - 40-Year-Old Former Teacher Marries 16-Year-Old Student - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

Mary Kay Letourneau, whose notorious seduction of 12-year-old boy led to more than seven years in prison, has married the former student she was convicted of raping.

Letourneau, 43, and Vili Fualaau, 22, exchanged vows they had written themselves during a tightly guarded ceremony Friday night, said Janet Annino, co-executive producer of the TV show "Entertainment Tonight."

The couple have been in the spotlight since Letourneau was imprisoned in 1997. But when she was released last August, the couple — who have two daughters together — reunited.

The ceremony was at the Columbia Winery in Woodinville, about 20 miles northeast of Seattle, Annino said.

Letourneau Marries Former Student - CBS News


 

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Francis2004

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bluedog

Roughly a fourth of American women getting early abortions last year did so with drugs rather than surgery, statistics show, as a new study reported improved safety in using the so-called "abortion pill."

Some experts predict the percentage of such "medical abortions," which offer more privacy than surgical termination at an abortion clinic or hospital, will rise even more due to the new study.

The research, done at Planned Parenthood clinics across the country, shows that a new way of giving pills to induce abortion virtually eliminated the risk for a rare but dangerous infection.
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"This is the first really huge documentation of how safe and effective medical abortion is," said Dr. Beverly Winikoff, a professor of family health and population at Columbia University. "The technology is very good and very well used in this country, and probably will be used more and more."

How it works
Two pills are used to induce an abortion. The primary drug, Mifeprex, was first approved in the U.S. in 2000. Use has risen steadily, even though manufacturer Danco Laboratories LLC of New York hasn't promoted it and the drug can only be obtained at a clinic or doctor's office, not through a pharmacy. Sales rose 16.5 percent last year, when about 184,000 American women used Mifeprex.

Medical abortions now account for about a quarter of early abortions, according to company spokeswoman Abby Long. At Planned Parenthood, the biggest provider of medical abortions, they amount to 32 percent of early terminations.

The group's study analyzed medical abortions at Planned Parenthood centers between 2005 and mid-2008 — about 228,000 cases. It found the abortion pill was about 98.5 percent effective and that changes in how the drugs were given reduced risk of a serious infection from barely 1 in 1,000 cases to 0.06 in 1,000.

Abortion pill used in 1 in 4 U.S. terminations - Women's health- msnbc.com

Now seeing one of your country men is complaining about Canadian Phama companies making cheap drugs ( via US companies in Canada of course ) in another thread, does this not scare you even more ?

It sure would scare me if I was completely anti abortion, which to some extent I am I guess.. I am what you call a semi anti-abortionist that believes there are cases that require times of bending the rules..
 

Cliffy

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bluedog and gerryh,

Are you living a pious and humble life, treating others as you would have them treat you? Are you avoiding judging others harshly so that others will not judge you harshly? Are you quietly going about living your beliefs? Do you have nothing to be ashamed of or have you sinned according to your understanding of that word? Do you have faith that your life experience here has assured you a place in heaven? Is your life an example that Jesus could point to and say to the rest of humanity, "I want you to live the way these two guys live for it pleases me greatly"? Will you stand before god on judgment day with a clear conscience?
 

gerryh

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bluedog and gerryh,

Are you living a pious and humble life, treating others as you would have them treat you? Are you avoiding judging others harshly so that others will not judge you harshly? Are you quietly going about living your beliefs? Do you have nothing to be ashamed of or have you sinned according to your understanding of that word? Do you have faith that your life experience here has assured you a place in heaven? Is your life an example that Jesus could point to and say to the rest of humanity, "I want you to live the way these two guys live for it pleases me greatly"? Will you stand before god on judgment day with a clear conscience?


and what does THIS have to do with abortion?

It appears there are some that have a problem sticking to the topic.
 

Cliffy

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and what does THIS have to do with abortion?

It appears there are some that have a problem sticking to the topic.

It has everything to do with your opinions about people who have abortions and about the subject in general. Like I told a catholic friend (a male) "if you don't like abortion, don't have one". I believe that the creator wants us to live our lives not be constantly fretting over what others do.
 

gerryh

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It has everything to do with your opinions about people who have abortions and about the subject in general. Like I told a catholic friend (a male) "if you don't like abortion, don't have one". I believe that the creator wants us to live our lives not be constantly fretting over what others do.


Sorry...nope.... has nothing to do with my opinion on abortion. I am Pro-Life.... as in I don't believe we should be killing ANYBODY. I don't believe in Capital punushment, I don't subscribe to war, and I don't believe in abortion. It is ALL murder.
 

gerryh

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Abortion has become the easy way out for the selfish and those that are unwilling to take responsibility for their own actions.
 

Francis2004

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Baaaaaaaa- humbug!:lol:

I was not saying God did not or will not take a child by abortion or any other means. He will provide for the innocent, I am sure you can get a handle on that.
I said, I say... it was innocent life. Economics, Selfishness or Politics whether individual and/or government was responsible for TAKING the choice to kill innocence. They must answer for innocent bloodshed, if not on this earth then later.

Innocence prevails over slaughter in all courts of fair justice.:fish:
I am not speaking for God. Just referring to His Word.

There are times when economics and selfishness are not part of the reasoning but rather the short and long term knowledge of a childs future will imminently be. It may not seem fair to decide a life based on the choices that maybe, but if God decided the faith of that person so be it..

My mother used to have a saying that went, when your day is up nothing can stop it from happening and God will come and get you. If that is true, and her belief was that happened at all ages, why would it make a difference how it happens ? It is of course based on the belief of destiny..
 

Cliffy

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Sorry...nope.... has nothing to do with my opinion on abortion. I am Pro-Life.... as in I don't believe we should be killing ANYBODY. I don't believe in Capital punushment, I don't subscribe to war, and I don't believe in abortion. It is ALL murder.

How is that not your opinion? Murder is your judgment. There are many who have a different opinion. Why are you more right than they are?

Personally I agree with you on those issues, so I won't go to war and I won't have an abortion.
 

Liberalman

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The woman’s right to choose equates to baby genocide.

Fetuses may have memories, study suggests which makes mothers murderers of their own children.

The statement that one of the posters that a fetus has no value is wrong the fetus has future earning value.

This is why a fetus must be bought to term and given to the government for them to raise it and let the lazy mother on her way.
 
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Francis2004

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Sorry...nope.... has nothing to do with my opinion on abortion. I am Pro-Life.... as in I don't believe we should be killing ANYBODY. I don't believe in Capital punushment, I don't subscribe to war, and I don't believe in abortion. It is ALL murder.

So you refuse to pay taxes, support the efforts to stop global warming, and will do everything to defeat the Conservative Gov't ?
 

SirJosephPorter

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The woman’s right to choose equates to baby genocide.

Fetuses may have memories, study suggests which makes mothers murderers of their own children.

The statement that one of the posters that a fetus has no value is wrong the fetus has future earning value.

This is why a fetus must be bought to term and given to the government for them to raise it and let the lazy mother on her way.

Liberalman, the study says that short term memory MAY be present at 30 weeks. Far cry from your claim that fetuses may have memories. It was dishonest of you to just quote the title, without quoting the subtitle as well (where it says that fetus MAY have memory at 30 weeks).

So fetuses may have memories at 30 weeks, we don’t know. And since I would say more than 99% abortions takes place before 30 weeks, I hardly see how this is relevant to any argument involving abortion (even if it is eventually established definitely that fetuses do have memories at 30 weeks, that is in no way relevant to abortion argument).
 

SirJosephPorter

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most animal rights activists are for pro abortion which means they value a dog and a cat over a human baby

Again, a dishonest argument, most animal rights activists support putting animals to sleep if circumstances warrant it. So I fail to see how they value a dog or a cat over a human being.
 

Ron in Regina

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Refuse to choose® women deserve better® than abortion

So you refuse to pay taxes, support the efforts to stop global warming, and will do everything to defeat the Conservative Gov't ?


How is that not your opinion? Murder is your judgment. There are many who have a different opinion. Why are you more right than they are?

Personally I agree with you on those issues, so I won't go to war and I won't have an abortion.


Just for clarification, I believe Gerryh is saying that his opinion on abortion
is NOT based on Religion, but based on the fact that (in his opinion) it is
extinguishing a life just like capital punishment, murder, wars, etc...
 
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