Liberals Preparing For A Summer Election
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You should be happy there is no summer election, Yukon. If the polls are correct, your Messiah would have lost.
"You should be happy there is no summer election, Yukon. If the polls are correct, your Messiah would have lost."
First of all, you nimwit, Stephen Harper is NOT my Messiah, I never claimed that he was, this idiotic nonsense is the figment of your sick imagination.
Secondly, I give credit to your Dion-Lite Leader to have enough brains not to force a Summer Election. That is, obviously more than what you are willing to give him.
First of all, you nimwit, Stephen Harper is NOT my Messiah, I never claimed that he was, this idiotic nonsense is the figment of your sick imagination.
Secondly, I give credit to your Dion-Lite Leader to have enough brains not to force a Summer Election. That is, obviously more than what you are willing to give him.
Didn't some guy post today about the govt being one party with two factions?
I realize you write it like it is a bad thing petros, but that is how it works in a democracy. If government changes parties, it changes the course of government only slightly. Usually liberal party is slightly left of centre, conservative party is slightly right of centre.
There are exceptions, of course. In USA the party of the right, the Republican Party has been practically taken over by the far right. Even here in Canada, while Harper himself is governing from centre right, I don’t trust him. The conservative party here is very much party of the right, not centre right. I think Harper is governing from centre right because he has a minority.
But normally, that is how it would work out, left of centre and right of centre parties alternate in power. That is what happens in most democracies, such as Britain (Thatcher was an exception), France, Germany etc.
All because the group that got elected to do the Job said they know how to make Canada prosper in 2006 and the people believed them, the present bunch in Ottawa (the conservatives) know dick about how to make money, and this why we have one faction guiding the one who said they know how but proved they know dick.
Thing is both are going to screw us over again and again and again. Going by what Ignatieff states they are only broadening the size of the collection plate.
As someone who is independantly employed am I going to be forced to pay into EI to foot the bill for berry pickers and fishermen?
I think it is made clear that self-employed people could use the new proposed method of being on EI or not on voluntary bases.
Of course it has to be voluntary, Socrates. No party can afford to make the business people mad at them. And personally speaking, I am not contributing, I will continue as before.
There is no abuse at all, quite the opposite, self employed people who lie on their income would not go for it being they are stealing far more than the EI benefits, but for the folks who are honest it gives them a chance to be properly covered in the event of down time unemployed.
We'll have to see whether it pays to BS about income and pay the taxes to qualify for EI bennys. I betcha I can find a way to claim dead people as clients if they want income proof. The acts involved will be wordsmithed under pressure which always leaves gaps and loopholes for the bright and crafty who know their english.
SJP
Perspective does matter and I do read from all sides and I did not see any pundits slamming Harper for caving – they were mostly of the opposing opinion – Iggy ramping up with BS and caving – again I might add – One positive for Iggy though is he did get his MP’s off their hands – hope they washed them -
Now I also find it amusing that because I have no love for Dion or Iggy – so far with Iggy I should say – that makes me a dyed in the wool conservative to you – again your opinion is valueless and in error – You have that fault that runs rampant in Liberals that if you disagree you are against Canada – against civil rights – my god you probably hate your mother , father and everything else – Jesus – That logic train of yours is filled with rigid stereotyping – No wonder you were against gay marriage as a younger man – For you everything has to fit – round blocks – round holes – problems arise when you come across a block that is not round –
Sad to say but you should really work on that -
SJP
Iggy voted for the deficit – Yes?
What would Iggy have done differently – Let the auto industry disappear – I asked this of you before – yet no answer – what would the King have done differently – As Iggy stated – Get the money out the door.
Perspective does matter and I do read from all sides and I did not see any pundits slamming Harper for caving – they were mostly of the opposing opinion – Iggy ramping up with BS and caving
Again, that is a matter of opinion, Goober. We could discuss how caved and who didn’t and not come to any conclusion or agreement. Who caved purely depends upon one’s political views.
I remember when Clinton was having a battle with the Republican congress, Republicans such as Limbaugh were claiming that Clinton caved in big time. Opinion polls showed something totally different.
If there are any opinion polls as to who caved, there may be something to it (it is what people think that matters). Failing that well, if one is a conservative, Iggy caved, if one is a Liberal, Messiah caved.
Again, that is a matter of opinion, Goober. We could discuss how caved and who didn’t and not come to any conclusion or agreement. Who caved purely depends upon one’s political views.
I remember when Clinton was having a battle with the Republican congress, Republicans such as Limbaugh were claiming that Clinton caved in big time. Opinion polls showed something totally different.
If there are any opinion polls as to who caved, there may be something to it (it is what people think that matters). Failing that well, if one is a conservative, Iggy caved, if one is a Liberal, Messiah caved.
At least the Liberals have a proven record of fiscal responsibility they left behind to the Snow Whites S-PLUS AND A STRONG banking INDUSTRY.
Harper has allocated the $50 Billion for the operating budget deficit IN AN EFFORT TO KEEP OUR ECONOMY STRONG and is taking his sweet old time to get the money where it should be to help the economy AND STRUGGLING BUSINESS.
He has helped Banks first who need no help in Canada and is waiting for some of that $50 Billion TO start looking like a s-plus, knowing the Cons some of that money will probably be declared as S-PLUS good thing Iggy has the Conservatives on NOTICE.
What Iggy would have done differently is a hypothetical question, Goober. What Harper is doing is the real question. He is the PM, Iggy isn’t. (chances are he will be, much as you don’t like the thought).
But you are on the right track here. Conservatives would very much like to fight the next election on trashing, demonizing the Liberals. The Messiah does not have a single achievement to show to the people. So his argument is going to be, well I may not be all that good, but Liberals are a whole lot worse, so vote for me.
Normally such argument doesn’t work. People usually vote for or against the government, not for or against the opposition. It remains to be seen if it will work here.