Why Catholic isn't Christian.
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petros, when I said "with the exception of Mormons" meant that Mormons are the only Christians who did not rip off Roman Catholicism.
All the others did. And should be proud. After all who could not adore and be proud of the a wife-killer adulterer like Henry VIII, the founder of all things and ideas Anglican/Episcopalian?
Shall I go on?
All the others did. And should be proud. After all who could not adore and be proud of the a wife-killer adulterer like Henry VIII, the founder of all things and ideas Anglican/Episcopalian?
Shall I go on?
Christianity is a rip off of many older religions, just like the story of Jesus, but that doesn't stop anybody from making up their own religions.
alleywayzalwayz; Praying is not just for believers. Prayer can be for anyone who's willing to put their own pride to the side for one moment and ask "God said:
Thanks Eagle, your sensitivity and good sense deserve commendation. For me though, there are too many things that happen in this world, to me and pretty much everybody else as far as I know, and many suffer far worse things than anything that's ever happened to me, that I just can't reconcile with the existence of a kind and loving deity who cares about us. He can't possibly exist as described by the major monotheisms, I can't make sense of their claims about him. And to be told, as EternalSaint tried to do, that it's my fault god's not paying attention to me, and may in fact be actively punishing me, is an outrage, utterly inconsistent with everything I understand about what Jesus tried to teach.
Mormons are FreeMasons on steroids. Pitiful lot really.
Everyone here seems to completely miss out that there is two Chrisitanities and both are equal in age and origin.
Any takers?
I do believe that things that happen to us that are out of our control are not our fault. I also do not believe that God is punishing people on Earth by bad things. There are plenty of people who could be considered undeserving that have everything in life going great for them. There are plenty of people that are good and pray everyday and bad things happen often and can never find peace or catch a break. Placing blame on God or refusing to believe in Him because awful things happen I believe is misplaced pain. Again, I am not judging you at all and guys like Eternal and his reasoning doesn't help either. Who is he to say what God is doing? Who is anybody to say?
I never said it was punishment, I said it COULD have been a test, when you had passed yourself off as "religious" I had assumed(mistakenly apparantly) you meant christian because of the forums we are on and the content we were discussing. In either case someone dying and bad things happening are in no way a reflection on Gods goodness.
You are aware that currently satan has dominion over this earth right?
“Now there was a day when the sons (angels) of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.” (Job 1:6-7)
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not… (2 Cor 4:4)
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. (1 Jon 4:3)
And the Devil, leading Him up into a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the Devil said to Him, “All this power I will give you, and the glory of them; for it has been delivered to me. And I give it to whomever I will. Therefore if you will worship me, all shall be yours.” (Lk 4:5 –7)
This is not going to be so forever though, Jesus will be back one day and satan will be bound, until then we need to be strong in the Lord.
Ephesians 6:10-12
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
"I'm not usually so harsh with people like you, but your arrogant self righteous sanctimonious certainty earns nothing but scorn from me. "
Hey you've got the same feelings towards God himself so it is no suprise that you have the same feelings for one of his servants. I do not hold it against you, without the holy spirit it is very hard for people to see spritual issues clearly. I have nothing but love for you and no ammount of insults are going to stop me from praying for you!
"And to be told, as EternalSaint tried to do, that it's my fault god's not paying attention to me, and may in fact be actively punishing me, is an outrage, utterly inconsistent with everything I understand about what Jesus tried to teach. "
But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord (James 1:6-7).
But your iniquities have separated you from your God; And your sins have hidden His face from you, So that He will not hear (Isaiah 59:2).
Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does His will, He hears him (John 9:31).
If your "faith" was so easily swayed I would contest that it was not sufficient in the first place. What you understand about what Jesus taught was obviously things you heard from other people because they really don't seem to be consistent with what the bible actually says.
You never did answer this "What if your cousin is sitting in heaven right now waiting for you?"
You are aware that currently satan has dominion over this earth right?
“Now there was a day when the sons (angels) of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.” (Job 1:6-7)
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not… (2 Cor 4:4)
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. (1 Jon 4:3)
And the Devil, leading Him up into a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the Devil said to Him, “All this power I will give you, and the glory of them; for it has been delivered to me. And I give it to whomever I will. Therefore if you will worship me, all shall be yours.” (Lk 4:5 –7)
This is not going to be so forever though, Jesus will be back one day and satan will be bound, until then we need to be strong in the Lord.
Ephesians 6:10-12
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
"I'm not usually so harsh with people like you, but your arrogant self righteous sanctimonious certainty earns nothing but scorn from me. "
Hey you've got the same feelings towards God himself so it is no suprise that you have the same feelings for one of his servants. I do not hold it against you, without the holy spirit it is very hard for people to see spritual issues clearly. I have nothing but love for you and no ammount of insults are going to stop me from praying for you!
"And to be told, as EternalSaint tried to do, that it's my fault god's not paying attention to me, and may in fact be actively punishing me, is an outrage, utterly inconsistent with everything I understand about what Jesus tried to teach. "
But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord (James 1:6-7).
But your iniquities have separated you from your God; And your sins have hidden His face from you, So that He will not hear (Isaiah 59:2).
Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does His will, He hears him (John 9:31).
If your "faith" was so easily swayed I would contest that it was not sufficient in the first place. What you understand about what Jesus taught was obviously things you heard from other people because they really don't seem to be consistent with what the bible actually says.
You never did answer this "What if your cousin is sitting in heaven right now waiting for you?"
"Who is he to say what God is doing? " I never said that is what he was doing with a definitive statement, I was offering a possibility of what happened based on what information was given to me. However it seems that somethings were misrepresented in the first place. God DOES test the faith of believers, he represented himself as such near the start of our conversation, and that is how that started.
I just do not think you are helping someone who has obviously been through a lot in life. That is not the way to help because people who have been through a lot do not need a mortal telling them such things.
"I just do not think you are helping someone who has obviously been through a lot in life. That is not the way to help because people who have been through a lot do not need a mortal telling them such things. "
Again, he misrepresented himself, if he had not done that I would not have offered that stance. What it all boils down to is he is mad at God for something that is a natural part of life and as such claims disbelief because he had a false view of what God is in the first place.
Again, he misrepresented himself, if he had not done that I would not have offered that stance. What it all boils down to is he is mad at God for something that is a natural part of life and as such claims disbelief because he had a false view of what God is in the first place.
I went back a week and from page six forward. Guess I missed it.
Oh well....I was just curious as to whether it was an impression from
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EternalSaint, Welcome to Canadian Content Forums!
Oh well....I was just curious as to whether it was an impression from
the Avatar of a flickering candle in the dark. By the way...
EternalSaint, Welcome to Canadian Content Forums!