An Apology

Cannuck

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Oh for cry'n out Loud already! How about BOTH of you drop this
nonsense and quit dragging other people into it, or BOTH of you
step back and take a break from the Forum for a while, or BOTH
of you step into the STEEL CAGE and come out as friends once
you've aired yours grievances with each other...to EACH OTHER
and not anyone else??? Just Pick one, because this is getting

old very quickly.


Sorry Ron I just wanted to set the record straight, just in case anybody was wondering why I wasn't talking about you-know-who and you-know-what. This subject will not be brought up by me again.
 

Ron in Regina

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I think this thread broke Ron. :-(

I wasn't broken, just misaligned it seems. I got the privilege of reading
through a couple of two year old Chatelaine (?) magazines while I waited
to be realigned though....next time I'm taking a book. :lol::lol::lol:

As a life lesson to my being misaligned though, I've learned that if you
fall asleep in the bathtub, not only can you make a mess out of your
neck, but your paperback novel will look like a rolodex once it dries. 8O
 

karrie

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I wasn't broken, just misaligned it seems. I got the privilege of reading
through a couple of two year old Chatelaine (?) magazines while I waited
to be realigned though....next time I'm taking a book. :lol::lol::lol:

As a life lesson to my being misaligned though, I've learned that if you
fall asleep in the bathtub, not only can you make a mess out of your
neck, but your paperback novel will look like a rolodex once it dries. 8O

Well now it sounds like I'm some creepy stalker! I didn't know you were anywhere near actually broken, just that you'd disappeared all of a sudden. lol.
 

CDNBear

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lol... no one would be able to press a law suit for ruined e-cred. Saying that someone's spouse is or isn't what one claims them to be is not a legal issue, unless names are named, and livelihood is threatened. Essentially, unless someone was to say 'Jane Seymour does not hold a valid license to practice medicine', it's a non-issue.

I find it funny that anyone would even think they could bring it to legal proceedings. Mind you, depending how it was worded, it could be one of the many thinly veiled threats I've seen made to forum administrations in the past.... 'do something about this person, or I could name you in a law suit and cost you a lot of money'. A way of forcing the forum's hand basically. But, of course, without seeing what was said, that's a hard call to make.

It's not. In Canada you have to prove damages in order to collect damages. Unless it can be shown that a quantifiable ($$$) amount of damage was done, there is no grounds for a suit.
Johnny, Karrie...

Good luck with that. I dished out over 2000 dollars as Karrie may remember from conversations past. For just such an incident. A member at a forum I was a Mod at, took exception to being punished by moi. Being the chatty type, and proud of the brand spankin' new business venture I had created, I bragged endlessly about it and my contracts with the GTAA and ThyssenKrupp.

This childish shyte, called around until he found someone at the GTAA that knew who I was and my company name and proceeded to tell all sorts of tales of my supposed criminal activities at Pearson Int Airport. To the point that my security clearance was revoked and my contracts suspended. I had to hire a lawyer and jump through hoops to get my clearance back and get my contracts reinstated. It was eventually proven that I was in no way acting in any way criminal. The Police were informed by not only my lawyer, but the authorities at the GTAA and ThyssenKrupp. The individual was found and quess what he was charged with?

Nothing...not a damn thing. Not even mischief. Whe I queried my lawyer about suing the man, I was told to cough up some pretty big bucks, before he would even put pen to to paper. His advice, move on. It wasn't worth the time and aggrivation.

This thread disproves the theory of evolution. That a group of supposed adults would act like a gang of school yard bullies and endlessly trash somebody they think is inferior to them only shows their own insecurities and does nothing to improve their own credibility. It is a sad commentary on where our society is headed - from the halls of higher education to the grade school sand box. I hope you are all proud.
If SJP would STFU, he wouldn't be endlessly abused Cliffy.
 

Niflmir

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It's not. In Canada you have to prove damages in order to collect damages. Unless it can be shown that a quantifiable ($$$) amount of damage was done, there is no grounds for a suit.

Oh, really? I must have read the wrong criminal code. See, mine states that "Any published matter designed to insult the person" fits the bill.

298. (1) A defamatory libel is matter published, without lawful justification or excuse, that is likely to injure the reputation of any person by exposing him to hatred, contempt or ridicule, or that is designed to insult the person of or concerning whom it is published.






299. A person publishes a libel when he

(a) exhibits it in public;

(b) causes it to be read or seen; or

(c) shows or delivers it, or causes it to be shown or delivered, with intent that it should be read or seen by the person whom it defames or by any other person.

...



301. Every one who publishes a defamatory libel is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.

Canada really likes to censor people; now you too know this.

Oh, but I hear, "It's only a forum," to which I laugh again at Jake Brahm and his "dirty" post.

The typical citizen's knowledge of our libel laws is incorrigibly bad. For instance, some seem to be under the illusion that truth is an absolute defense.
 

CDNBear

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Oh, really? I must have read the wrong criminal code. See, mine states that "Any published matter designed to insult the person" fits the bill.



Canada really likes to censor people; now you too know this.

Oh, but I hear, "It's only a forum," to which I laugh again at Jake Brahm and his "dirty" post.

The typical citizen's knowledge of our libel laws is incorrigibly bad. For instance, some seem to be under the illusion that truth is an absolute defense.
And any first year Law student would have a field day with...

A defamatory libel is matter published, without lawful justification or excuse, that is likely to injure the reputation of any person by exposing him to hatred, contempt or ridicule, or that is designed to insult the person of or concerning whom it is published.
;-)

One thing some people who think they know the law should brush up on is, the law is not an absolute.
 

Cannuck

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A defamatory libel is matter published, without lawful justification or excuse, that is likely to injure the reputation of any person by exposing him to hatred, contempt or ridicule, or that is designed to insult the person of or concerning whom it is published.

That definition includes half the posts on this forum. Why, just the other day I was called mentally ill and potentially violent.
 

CDNBear

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As the vagueness of the words you highlighted should convince you of.
Of what?

That the laws in this country are subverted ad nauseum?

That the CCoC is without a doubt a wet sponge?

That Judges bend the law on a whim?

That even Police are apprehensive about applying the strict letter of the Law?

That even if you found a Lawyer willing to file a criminal charge for you with a Justice of the Peace, the he is most likely to tell you to suck it up?

Been there done that, got the t shirts.

Here's one for you Nif, how about I call you a nasty name, and you call your local Police and see what they say.
 

karrie

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I could care less if such a suit is actually prosecutable. It reads like a thinly veiled threat to the mods and admin of the forum. I'd toss the person who made it if I were them. That person has proven themselves a liability. They didn't bother to raise their voice when someone was implying that Bear isn't native, a much more serious offense in the eyes of the law as it could be called racism. No, they raise it in 'concern' only when it's something they want addressed for themselves. Give me a break. It's a threat if I've ever heard one. Toss the litigious party.
 
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Niflmir

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Of what?

That the laws in this country are subverted ad nauseum?

That the CCoC is without a doubt a wet sponge?

That Judges bend the law on a whim?

That even Police are apprehensive about applying the strict letter of the Law?

That even if you found a Lawyer willing to file a criminal charge for you with a Justice of the Peace, the he is most likely to tell you to suck it up?

Been there done that, got the t shirts.

Here's one for you Nif, how about I call you a nasty name, and you call your local Police and see what they say.

I know what they would say. That is why if I cared I wouldn't deal with them. Law enforcers are not litigators.
 

CDNBear

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That definition includes half the posts on this forum. Why, just the other day I was called mentally ill and potentially violent.
Actually Cannuck, his comments could be deemed defamatory. As it sights without excuse or justification an act contrary to the norm.

Whereas calling someone a name, is not an indictable offense. It's not even a summary offense or even something the Police would raise an eyebrow over. In fact, if one where to pursue a legal course of much of what is said here, you would be layghed out of, if not scolded out of the JP's office, or the Police station.

Some people need to grow up and grow some skin. Especially when they start picking fights with the wrong people.
 

CDNBear

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I know what they would say. That is why if I cared I wouldn't deal with them. Law enforcers are not litigators.
No really?

But they are the first line in the criminal process. And seeing as you posted sections of the CCoC, that is where the process you are referring to would start...

If they refuse to act, your next step is to present before a Justice of the Peace. Usually a retired Judge or new Judge.

Good luck getting any sympathy for having been called a name on the internet. ;-)

And if you think spending thousands of dollars on hiring a lawyer to file something you could file and be told to bugger off in one afternoon, is more your bag. Then more power to ya. But if you really want to waste your money, just send it to me...;-)
 

Niflmir

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Why, just the other day I was called mentally ill and potentially violent.

People here seem to be conflating winning a suit with the grounds to start one and the grounds to start one with the ability to do so.

Also,

309. No person shall be deemed to publish a defamatory libel by reason only that he publishes defamatory matter that, on reasonable grounds, he believes is true, and that is relevant to any subject of public interest, the public discussion of which is for the public benefit. http://laws.justice.gc.ca/fr/ShowDo...0090602/fr?page=6&isPrinting=false#codese:309