Ruby Dhalla

L Gilbert

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So are you prepared to dish out more taxes so that the average Canadian Navy seaman can buy his own Navy ship?

And what about ship manufaturing workers? We'd have to raise their salaries pretty high for that, making the ships more expensive too.

And what about the farmer? He feeds us, but he should get just enough money ot feed himself. The logic is seriously flawed.
Having a problem today? Greenfish said, "If you work for a car company ..you should be able to buy a car..." To which you replied that if you work at NASA you should be able to get a spaceship and I said no but you should be able to buy one. There's a difference between buying one and getting one.
 

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Having a problem today? Greenfish said, "If you work for a car company ..you should be able to buy a car..." To which you replied that if you work at NASA you should be able to get a spaceship and I said no but you should be able to buy one. There's a difference between buying one and getting one.

You're right, I wasn't careful enough on my wording. But the illogicality of it still stands. According to that logic, a farm worker should get just enough money to buy food. The teacher, just enough for tuition, the physician, just enough for medicine, the ship manufacturing worker, just enough to buy a ship, the local poitician, just enough to buy a city, the provincial politician, just enough to buy a province, and the federal politician, just enough to buy acountry.

You see how flawed that logic is, I'm sure.

I do believe in eliminating the extremes of wealth and poverty, but I don't believ in absolute economic equality right down to the cent, nor to I believe that your salary should be reflective simply of what you produce; it's too simplistic.
 

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Anyway, I hope this is the end of Dhalla's political career, and she spends a little time in striped sunlight. But then, I was hoping that for Chretien, Mulroney, and Martin, too.

I'd never hope that of anybody. I hope Mulroney's issue turns out to just be a big misunderstanding. It doesn't look like it, granted, but still. I hope Dhally's issue is the same. I always hope for the best for people. But of course, if proven guilty, justice, cold neutral unbiassed, unemotional justice, should be given, and we carry on with our merry lives.
 

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We are all buying a car now, through the government......just don't expect to ever drive it....or even see it.

I agree, that was a disaster. Cut my taxes, and I'd be more than happy to contribute to help the less fortunate with the necessities of life and an education to get back on their feet again. But what's the point of stockpiling cars nobody wants. Besides, I thought we were supposed to promote conservation of resources. So subsidizing the gasguzzler industry fits into that somehow?

Heck, irony of all ironies, environmental super hero Elizabeth May supported these subsidies, whereas environmental big bad wolf Harper opposed them, at least initially.
 

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I do. I am a firm believer in the addage that says "Don't to the crime if you can't do the time". I am also a rigid believer in accep5ting responsibility for what I do.

You misunderstood me there. I fully agree that if they do the crime, they must do the time. My point was that I hope it turns out they didn't do the crime.

If my neighbour is accused of a crime, I don't hope with glee that he committed the crime. On the contrary, I hope he didn't and that the whole thing is a misunderstanding or honest mistake. Now if it turns out he did do the crime, then certainly do as the law says. But I still believe in innocent until proven guilty, and it's pretty mean to be hoping for a person's incarceration when he hasn't even been charged yet.
 

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Oh, sorry. *sheepish grin*

Um, Ruby Dhalla is a she, Machjo. lol
And she's already pretty much admitted to the deed.

I was using 'he' in the generic to include any politician in such a scenario. I always use the genric 'he' in such contexts.

As for Dhalla having admitted to it, I admit that I haven't read the news since this morning. Any link?
 

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Problem is too many people who have everything and feel they deserve more .tend to forget they have nothing with out the bottom to hold them up!
 

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Same with Mulroney, by the way. It's not up to the mob to try and hang him. As a civilized society, we don't take the law into our own hands. Letthe court deal with it. Same with Dhalla.
 

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Problem is too many people who have everything and feel they deserve more .tend to forget they have nothing with out the bottom to hold them up!

That I can agree with generally speaking. But as for Dhalla's case specifically, she's still not been proven guilty yet.
 

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I was using 'he' in the generic to include any politician in such a scenario. I always use the genric 'he' in such contexts.

As for Dhalla having admitted to it, I admit that I haven't read the news since this morning. Any link?
I read something yesterday that said she said she was apologetic about the issue. Now I can't find it. Should have kept the link I guess.
I retract my accusations of guilt, then.
Either way, someone does something wrong, they should have the guts to own it and do penance.
 

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I read something yesterday that said she said she was apologetic about the issue. Now I can't find it. Should have kept the link I guess.
I retract my accusations of guilt, then.
Either way, someone does something wrong, they should have the guts to own it and do penance.

I agree with that. For her sake, I hope the accusations are false. For the sake of her nannies, I hope they're being truthful. For the sake of justice, I hope justice be served, whatever the truth happens to be, same for Dhalla, Mulroney, or any other.
 

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To my understanding Gilbert, situations like Dhalla's prey on undereducated women who often ARE here legally, who are hand held through the process by their employers, but lied to every step of the way and controlled. They put their faith in the nicely dressed lady/man with the nice house and important job, to be a generally good person and help them 'become' legal. The paperwork is often on the up and up, but, not being able to read English, and counting on their employer as their interpreter, they can be told any number of ridiculous rules.

I don't know the precise specifics of how she lied to her employees, but, that's been my understanding of how this type of slavery in Canada works. Add regular heroin injections, and it's also how the sex slave trade works.
 

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I agree with that. For her sake, I hope the accusations are false. For the sake of her nannies, I hope they're being truthful. For the sake of justice, I hope justice be served, whatever the truth happens to be, same for Dhalla, Mulroney, or any other.
She was full of love for all at home - Well it appears that not to many Libs are coming to her defence - Clearly Ruby did not take her love to town

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I'm not rushing to Ruby's aid but a thousand dollars a month plus room and board sounds fair for someone with a disability and not much in the way of qualifications Presumably they were free to go some where else. The nannies got the job through an agency so it hardly seems to be cruel and unusual. A nanny would expect to be called at odd hours occasionally.