Man dies after Taser shock by police at Vancouver airport

[Ron in Regina]

Taser cams would curb reckless use

Is this the one about the guy who was going to crush the officer between two cars? If it is, by listening to the explanation on TV and by reading letters from people in the Vancouver Province Paper, people seem to be behind the police in this one.

What I've posted has nothing to do with that situation (I hadn't even
heard about that 8O). I figured that, since this Thread is dealing with Camera's
and law enforcement, it would be the place to post these stories dealing
with both media and private citizens who have recorded something out on
a public street, where there is no expectation or privacy.

Kind'a nice to have some idea of where someone might legally stand with respect
to their pictures & video taken with their own cameras that belongs to them.

 

[china]

RCMP Corporal Benjamin Robinson. Robinson and three other RCMP officers who Tasered a Polish immigrant at the Vancouver International Airport may face charges in his death, B.C.'s Attorney General told CBC News Monday.

Photograph by: Ian Smith, Vancouver Sun




VANCOUVER — The four RCMP officers who Tasered a Polish immigrant at the Vancouver International Airport may face charges in his death, B.C.’s Attorney General said Monday.
Robert Dziekanski, 40, died in October 2007 after being hit five times by a Taser, while a bystander filmed the encounter with his cellphone.
The recent decision by Crown prosecutors not to lay charges against the four officers is not final, said Wally Oppal.
Dziekanski, who spoke no English, became distressed and started throwing luggage after spending more than 24 hours travelling, and 10 hours stranded at the airport, when he and his mother failed to meet up.
An inquiry, headed by retired judge Thomas Braidwood, will reconvene Tuesday to investigate his death.
“Nothing is final . . . particularly where we’re getting more and more evidence elicited on a daily basis,” Oppal told the CBC, referring to the inquiry evidence. “So it may well be, at the end of the day, the people in the criminal justice branch could re-examine this.”
Last month, the inquiry heard testimony from the lead Mountie, Cpl. Benjamin (Monty) Robinson, who ordered the Taser hits on Dziekanski.
Const. Kwesi Millington, who fired the Taser, and Const. Gerry Rundel and Const. Bill Bentley, who were both present at the scene, have also testified at the inquiry.
Oppal told Canwest_News Service that B.C. justice officials will wait to make their decision until all the evidence is analyzed by the inquiry, which will make recommendations.
“We’d have to see what the evidence was,” he said. “If there’s new evidence, then they would look at it, because we’re interested in doing the right thing.”
The inquiry has shown a growing gap between the RCMP version of events and video evidence.
Robinson admitted to the inquiry he asked to “change” his evidence after viewing the bystander’s video of the death.
In his initial report, Robinson claimed 12 times that the Polish immigrant swung a stapler at the officers, the inquiry heard.
This report, along with those of his fellow officers, was proved wrong by the video of Dziekanski’s death.
“I was mistaken, but I was telling the truth. I sort of blended the whole interaction with him,” Robinson told the inquiry.
© Copyright (c) Canwest News Service

 

[china]

Top-level Mountie decided not to correct Dziekanski facts, inquiry told
8 hours ago
VANCOUVER, B.C. — A senior Mountie handling the RCMP's public response to Robert Dziekanski's death was upset enough by a video of the fatal encounter that he didn't want to watch it again.
Cpl. Dale Carr told a public inquiry into the death that he saw the video of the last moments of Dziekanski's life twice at a homicide briefing the morning he died.
"I didn't have a desire to rewatch it," Carr said Wednesday during his appearance at the inquiry.
"I just found it upsetting and didn't really want to see it again."
The RCMP spokesman said it was clear within two days of Dziekanski's Oct. 14, 2007, death that some of the information being provided to the public was wrong.
But Carr, media relations officer for the Integrated Homicide Investigation Team, said the homicide unit's boss, Supt. Wayne Rideout, decided two days after the incident that public statements should focus on the investigation process, not on potential evidence.
"It was decided that we weren't going to attempt to try and correct any of that information until we had all of the facts and all of the evidence before us," Carr said.
"I knew that eventually this would all come out at the proverbial end of the day."
Rideout is scheduled to testify at the inquiry later.
Dziekanski died after being stunned several times with a Taser in a confrontation with RCMP officers at the international arrivals area of the airport. Police were summoned after Dziekanski began throwing furniture.
In the hours after his death, RCMP made several crucial mistakes in describing what happened.
Sgt. Pierre Lemaitre, the spokesman for the force in the case, told reporters Dziekanski had been stunned twice when, in fact, the Taser had been deployed five times.
He said Dziekanski had been struggling with officers and swinging an object at them, although the bystander's video shows otherwise and that three, not four, Mounties faced off against the agitated man, who spoke no English.
When the witness video, shot by Paul Pritchard of Victoria, was broadcast after the Mounties returned it to him under a court order, the discrepancies sparked an international furor that, in part, led to the inquiry currently underway.
Lemaitre, senior RCMP spokesman at the time, earlier told the inquiry that Carr was his sole source of information about the incident.
Carr said Wednesday that he quickly realized an in-custody death - especially involving a Taser and at the airport - would excite a lot of media attention, including outside Canada.
He and Lemaitre attended the homicide unit briefing and viewed the video before heading to the airport to talk to reporters, Carr told the inquiry.
He said he took notes during the briefing but admitted they don't show precisely where some of the erroneous information came from. No one who spoke is identified in the notes and Carr said he can't recall the names 18 months later.
Carr was at Lemaitre's side for media scrums at the airport but testified he paid little attention to what the senior spokesman was saying.
He suggested Lemaitre may have elaborated on some of the facts, including the number of times Dziekanski was stunned, which was not in his notes.
"I gave Sgt. Lemaitre the information that's here in my notebook," Carr said. "Additional information, additional editorial comments that Sgt. Lemaitre made, I can't be confident that I gave him that information."
Lemaitre was taken off the case after 48 hours, mainly for logistical reasons, Carr said.
The two had agreed at the outset the best strategy was to get timely and accurate information out to the media without compromising the investigation.
Carr said he became aware there were mistakes in the public statements that releasing the video could have cleared up.
But investigators considered the recording as evidence, he said, and did not want to release it and risk tainting the independent recollections of witnesses.
Carr said the case was evolving from an in-custody death to a criminal probe, where discussing the evidence could derail a future court case.
"I was prepared to say that we're not going to talk about the video, we're not going to talk about evidence until the entire investigation is complete," he said.
Both Carr and Lemaitre have testified there was no deliberate intent to misled reporters and the public.
"I'm certainly sorry, absolutely sorry, that misinformation got portrayed," Carr said. "It's never been my intention ever to mislead the public. I'm not a liar."
On Tuesday, current senior RCMP spokesman Sgt. Tim Shields issued an apology for the force's inaccurate public statements in relation to Dziekanski's death.

 

[china]

By Neal Hall, Vancouver SunApril 15, 2009

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RCMP Cpl. Nycki Basra arrives Wednesday at the Braidwood inquiry in Vancouver. 'I do not recall any member's version of events,' she testified about a meeting with the four RCMP officers involved in the death of Robert Dziekanski.

Photograph by: Glenn Baglo, Vancouver Sun




VANCOUVER — A Mountie who attended a meeting with four officers involved in the Tasering of a Polish immigrant at the Vancouver International Airport in 2007 says she can't remember details of what was discussed.
"I don't recall exactly what was said," Cpl. Nycki Basra told the Braidwood inquiry, which is probing the death of Robert Dziekanski after he was Tasered five times and died at the scene on Oct. 14, 2007.
Basra recalled the four officers involved in the in-custody death attended a "critical incident stress debriefing" at 8 a.m. on Oct. 27 — 13 days after Dziekanski's death.
She said the meeting took place after all the officers had provided statements to the Integrated Homicide Investigation Team, which was investigating.
"We did not want to interfere in the investigation in any way," Basra testified.
The meeting was led by a psychologist and the four Mounties were told that it was a confidential session, she recalled.
Basra said she took no notes during the two-hour meeting. "That's very common," she said.
"It's more about talking about emotions, feelings," she explained.
Basra attended voluntarily as part of a program that offers coping strategies for RCMP members dealing with difficult issues in their work and lives.
Commission counsel Art Vertlieb told Basra that one of the officers involved in the fatal Dziekanski incident testified earlier that, during the debriefing, the four officers "all told our own version of the events that transpired that evening."
"Can you help us with what events were related?" Vertlieb asked.
"I do not recall whether there were specifics," Basra replied. "I do not recall any member's version of events."
Basra said RCMP members are "strongly discouraged" from discussing specifics of an event under investigation, but are encouraged to discuss their feelings and how they are coping at stress debriefings.
She added: "I'm a police officer first and if there was any indication that there was any criminal wrongdoing . . . I would have taken note of that."
The Crown announced in December that there would be no charges against the four RCMP officers involved in the airport death.
The Mounties were called to the airport after a 911 report of a man throwing luggage.
Seconds after the officers arrived, they confronted Dziekanski, 40, who spoke no English.
The man threw up his arms, then grabbed a stapler, prompting an officer to deploy a Taser five times.
Dziekanski died at the scene from "sudden death during restraint" after the four officers struggled to handcuff his hands behind his back.
Dziekanski had left his home in Poland more than 24 hours earlier and wandered around the secure international arrivals area for about nine hours, looking for his mother. They never connected.
A bystander's video of the incident sparked an international outcry.
All four officers changed their version of events after watching the video.
© Copyright (c) Canwest News Service

 

[china]

Dziekanski camp hopes Mounties get charged

Walter Kosteckyj, lawyer for the mother of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski, said he welcomes reports that B.C. Attorney General Wally Oppal is not ruling out that the four RCMP officers involved could face criminal charges.
“That’s obviously a positive thing... the police officers have recanted on three or four important points” while under oath at the Braidwood inquiry, noted Kosteckyj.
Kosteckyj noted that the Integrated Homicide Investigation Team, which handles all deaths in police custody, relied on the officers’ statements in recomending that the four officers who Tasered Dziekanski not be charged.
Last Dec. 12, the B.C. criminal justice branch issued a “clear” statement, based on the IHIT investigation of Dziekanski’s death, that the officers had been cleared of any wrongdoing.
But Kosteckyj noted the RCMP officers all admitted on the stand that key parts of their statements were in error, although all four denied colluding on their stories. Only one officer admitted the four of them ever discussed the case again, although they continued to work together for a short time after the incident.
“Why are those statements (by the RCMP) so different and why are those statements so different in such similar ways?” demanded Kosteckyj, noting that a review of the case “needs an indpendent prosecutor.
“The B.C. public has no confidence in the police investigating themselves.”
But Oppal told the CBC in an interview Monday that the decision not to charge the officers isn’t written in stone.
"Nothing is final ... particularly where we're getting more and more evidence elicited on a daily basis," Oppal told the CBC. "So it may well be, at the end of the day, the people in the criminal justice branch could re-examine this."
Dziekanski, who would have celebrated his 41st birthday Wednesday, died on October 14, 2007, after he was Tasered five times and restrained by four RCMP officers, all of whom have testified at the Braidwood inquiry.
Cisowski, who has attended much of the inquiry but fled the courtroom when the Pritchard video of her son’s death is replayed, will be at the Vancouver airport Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. to lay flowers on the spot at the international arrivals level where Dziekanski died.
He was on his way to start a new life in Canada, working with his mother’s janitorial business.
After 30 hours of travel without meeting his mother -- who waited in vain for him at the airport -- Dziekanski became frustrated and threw furniture. The RCMP responded and Tasered him in less than two minutes.
Teacher Paul Pritchard captured the entire incident, where Dziekanski writhes in pain on the floor and then goes limp, on a video.
Police confiscated the video and Pritchard had to go to court to get it returned. He then released it to the media and it has formed the backbone of the inquiry, forcing the RCMP to change their statements about what happened.
On the stand Tuesday, airport shift supervisor Greg Sambrook clearly surprised Commissioner Tom Braidwood when he claimed that he had no idea a man under his supervision had decided not to call in the airport’s own emergency medical responders to help Dziekanski.
Airport operations manager Bob Ginter can be heard on airport audio telling a radio dispatcher “don’t bother” to call in the nearby ERS to save Dziekanski’s life.
The dispatcher, Carla Hanson, called Ginter back to ask “Is Greg OK with that?” On the audiotape, played at the inquiry, there is a pause and then Ginter replies, “We’re fine.”
Hanson told the inquiry she thought Ginter had checked with Sambrook, his superior, about violating airport protocol by not calling in airport ERS.
But Sambrook testfied Tuesday that Ginter never relayed Hanson’s concern or checked his decision with his boss.
“Did you have any input into the decision made by Mr. Ginter?”Sambrook was asked Tuesday by commission counsel Art Vertlieb.
Replied Sambrook: “Not that I recall.”
Sambrook testified that in fact, he would have backed Ginter’s decision.
“It’s my feeling that the situation was under control and it was Mr. Ginter’s situation and he was using his field judgement to make that call to Carla,” said Sambrook. “I thought Bob had the situation in control.”
Sambrook said he had been told to “empower” people under his supervision by letting them make their own decisions in a crisis.
The inquiry continues, with IHIT investigators and RCMP Const. Pierre Lemaitre slated to testify this week.

 

[china]

Robert Dziekanski's mother, Zofia Cisowski, lays flowers at Vancouver airport yesterday at the spot where the Polish immigrant died after being Tasered by RCMP.

Photograph by: Arlen Redekop, The Province, The Province




An RCMP media-relations officer denied yesterday that any of the officers at the police-involved death of Robert Dziekanski discussed their version of events at a debriefing session.
Cpl. Nycki Basra grew testy and was described as "argumentative" by lawyer Walter Kosteckyj at the Braidwood inquiry when she was questioned about a meeting attended by all four officers involved in the Tasering and restraint of Dziekanski at the airport on Oct. 14, 2007, where he died.
Basra insisted the "critical-incident stress debriefing," held Oct. 27, 2007, focused only on the officers' "feelings and emotions and coping strategies," and that she did not recall specific details discussed.
Basra became irritated when she was asked why Const. Bill Bentley told the inquiry on Feb. 26: "We did have what is referred to as a critical-incident debrief where we all told our version of the events that transpired that evening."
She responded to commission counsel Art Vertlieb, "OK . . . I don't understand what you're trying to ask me," and then added, "maybe you should have posed these questions to Const. Bentley."
Basra insisted her focus at the meeting was to provide "Kleenex and water" and "monitor the members, if they're having a breakdown or have to leave the room.
"It's about their feelings, their thoughts and their coping strategies."
She said she didn't recall if details about Dziekanski's death were discussed.
The debriefing was "confidential" and "voluntary," said Basra, adding that she would have gone to her superiors "if I had heard anything being discussed that would suggest any wrongdoing or criminal elements."
Basra was asked by Kosteckyj, lawyer for Dziekanski's mother, Zofia Cisowski, why, as an officer trained to give accurate evidence in court, she couldn't recall details about the debriefing session.
Basra, in turn, accused Kosteckyj of implying "this was an opportunity for the officers to get their story together."
Yesterday morning, Cisowski placed flowers at the airport in the international arrivals area where her son died, to mark what would have been his 42nd birthday.
Cisowski fled the inquiry yesterday afternoon when RCMP Const. Paul Hoivik, a forensic exhibits expert, testified about the condition of Dziekanski's body and the death scene.
"I become too upset," Cisowski said outside of court.
Hoivik said that two sets of red puncture marks were visible on Dziekanski's body, likely due to the Taser, as well as abrasions and bruises on his body, from both the police and medical attention.
Hoivik also revealed for the first time that RCMP watched a bystander video that night and that several "working copies" of the video were made, but he didn't know how many or which officers took copies.
During the inquiry, all four officers recanted key parts of their statements that did not match the video.
The inquiry into Dziekanski's death and Taser use continues today with Vancouver Sgt. Brad Fawcett, a use-of-force expert, and Delta Const. Craig Baltzer, who downloaded the data on the Taser used on Dziekanski.
sfournier@theprovince.com

 

[JLM]

Yep, with manslaughter at the very least AND with perjury for the full count of 14 years added to whatever months they get for manslaughter.

 

[china]

Desperately Seeking Competence in Canadian Justice

Tue
07
Apr
2009
Desperately Seeking Competence in Canadian Justice Written by Hal Sisson Tuesday, 07 April 2009 15:13


Trying to Encounter Competence in RCMP Complaint Process

by Hal Sisson

No one should be above the law but the straightforward manner in which the ‘Commission for Public Complaints Against the Royal Canadian Mounted Police’ handles complaints presented to them by the public is a masterpiece of artful dodgery, whitewash and obfuscation. The system, however, is admirable in its efficacy from a strictly RCMP standpoint.

RCMP Commissioner William Elliot



To quote a recent Times Colonist letter to the editor, ‘If you complain to the RCMP they can ignore it. If you complain to the RCMP Complaints Commissioner he can complain to the RCMP (in fact must refer the complaint to the RCMP) and they can again ignore it.’ To put it another way - if the members of the Commission and their employees were florists they would close shop on Mother’s Day.

​

According to ‘Yes, Prime Minister, BBC’, the standard response to a crisis such as receiving a complaint is to state that they see no problem and nothing is going to happen. Even if there is something to complain about we should do nothing about it. And even if we should do something, there is nothing we can do. Finally, there may have been something we could have done, but now it is too late to do it.


Examples abound of this official response, and the following is a glaring example:


Here’s what happened people, if you will recall. On September 11, 2001 some evil persons or organizations were responsible for flying commercial airplanes into the Twin Towers of the Trade Center in New York City. This was a horrendous crime and should have been investigated as such, rather than to declare war on the noun of “Terror”. The Bush Administration immediately offered a theory of least probability as to how it could have happened, but eight years later have still failed to come forward with any proof whatsoever of the conspiracy theory they espoused involving Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda.


Twenty-four Canadians were murdered in this atrocity and Prime Minister Stephen Harper publicly stated that this was the reason that Canada would go to war with Afghanistan – which we did and where we have lost four times as many Canadians as were murdered on 9/11 – to say nothing of the Afghani casualties.


The federal police force – the RCMP – has a mandate to investigate the murder of Canadian citizens inside and outside of Canada, and have done so in many individual cases. However, they failed to do so after 9/11 when it involved twenty-four Canadians. "Why?" becomes a pressing and fair question.


A concerned Canadian patriot friend of mine, Dave Fodor, decided to file a complaint regarding the above 9/11 atrocity and ask just why it was that the RCMP failed to do their duty to conduct their own investigation of the crime. There follows verbatim the very revealing correspondence between citizen Fodor and the RCMP Complaints Commission:

File No. 5430-2008-2929
Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP
Nov.4th, 2008,
To Dear Mr. Fodor:
This will acknowledge receipt of the documents you sent to this office and to advise that I was unable to identify specific issues related to the conduct of an RCMP member. I am, therefore, writing to clarify for you the mandate of the commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP.
This commission was established by Parliament to oversee the public policing activities of the RCMP. Part VII of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act (“RCMP Act”) describes the mandate of this commission. Its mandate is to review “the conduct, in performance of any duty or function under the (RCMP) act, of any member (of the RCMP)…” Taken as a whole, the concerns outlined in your letter do not appear to qualify as conduct of the RCMP in the performance of a duty or function under the Act and, therefore, do not fall within this commission’s mandate.
As a result, this commission has no role to play in resolving the issues you have raised in your letter. According, we will be unable to process your concerns as a public complaint under Part VII of the RCMP Act.
Yours truly,
Andree Leduc
Enquiries and Complaints Analyst



File No. 5430-2008-2929
Nov. 18, 2008
To: Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP
Dear Andree Leduc,
Thank you for your reply dated November 4, 2008 to my complaint about the RCMP handling of the 9/11 case on behalf of the 24 Canadian victims, the Canadian 9/11 Truth Movement and many other citizens. You indicate in your letter that Part VII of the RCMP Act requires identifying a particular RCMP member before the commission can consider an investigation. That person would be the RCMP commissioner Guiliano Zaccardelli who was in charge on September 11, 2001 and I also indicated him on my original submission.
Who is responsible for the follow-up of this case as there are legitimate questions about the murder of 24 Canadians? The 9/11 Truth Movement is of the legal opinion that this is within the mandate of the RCMP and questions the conduct of the RCMP commissioner on and after 9/11.
You will find enclosed a CD with supporting documents also forwarded to present RCMP commissioner William Elliot and Deputy Commissioner Joe Buckle earlier this year.
Thank you for your attention hereto at earliest convenience.
Sincerely,
Dave Fodor (on behalf of 22% of Canadians (2006 Ipsos-Reid poll result – increasing annually)



File No. 5430-2008-2929
November 27, 2008
From: Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP
Dear Mr. David Fodor,
This will acknowledge receipt of the documents you sent to this office and to advise you that as I advised previously I was unable to identify specific issues relating to the “policing’ conduct of an RCMP member.
This commission was established by Parliament to oversee the public policing activities of the RCMP. Part VII of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act (“RCMP Act” describes the mandate of this commission. Its mandate is to review ”the conduct, in performance of any duty or function under the (RCMP) Act, of any member (of the RCMP)…” Taken as a whole, the concerns outlined in your letter do not appear to qualify as conduct of the RCMP in the performance of a duty or function under the Act and, therefore do not fall within this commission’s mandate.
I would also point out that Commissioner Zaccardelli has retired from the RCMP and can no longer be disciplined under the RCMP Act.
As a result, please be advised that this file is now closed.
Yours truly,
Andree Leduc
Enquiries and Complaints Analyst



File # 5430-2008-2929
December 10th, 2008
Andree Leduc
To: Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP
Dear Mr. Andree Leduc:
Thank you for your reply of Nov. 27, 2008 and acknowledgment of the receipt of the documentation and evidence I had sent to you. However I, nor my legal counsel, fail to comprehend why you are unable to identify specific issues relating too the policing decisions of the individual RCMP officer in charge and serving in force at the time. An “issue” is 24 Canadians murdered in the Twin Trade Towers in NY on 9/11 and no investigation was co9nducted into the crime by the Royal Canadian Police Force.
So, as you state, if past or retired police action or inaction are no longer subject to ‘discipline’ could you cite the reference in the RCMP Act? As well I understand that former Commissioner Zaccardelli is working for Interpol in Africa, so could you confirm that he is not on the payroll of Interpol in Ottawa?
On August 9th of this year I sent a letter and a CD with additional information to RCMP commissioner William Elliot. In that letter I ask him “to implement a Canadian investigation” and for your reference, I attach a copy of that letter.
The public wants the crime of 9/11 to be ‘reviewed’ bay our federal police force in an open and transparent manner and when we do supply the police with verifiable incriminating evidence they refuse to act. And this 9/11 research/investigation is not my job nor is it the job of the Canadian 9/11 Truth community.
In closing, could the commission not collaborate with the Canadian public and the RCMP to at least review the facts that are now available that may not have been available to Mr. Zaccardelli when he was commander of the RCMP?
Your reply will once again be appreciated,
Sincerely,
Dave Fodor



As you will note the complainant Fodor then registered a specific complaint naming Commissioner Zaccardelli’s replacement, William Elliot – as it is only logical the new Commissioner seamlessly takes on the responsibilities of his predecessor. The RCMP Commissioner controls and manages the force and all matters connected therewith under the direction of the Minister of Public Safety Canada.


So, was there any interference in the process of an RCMP 9/11 crime investigation by politicians of the Canadian Government that would widen the blame for the failure of the Force to do so? That type of thing is always shielded from public scrutiny and insulated from parliamentary oversight, so lotsa luck with Freedom of Information requests in that area.


What happened next? Voila! The stonewall gambit is played by the Commission employees. No answer to the complaint is forthcoming, the case is closed and the bureaucrats go back to their coffee break. A shut-out is registered by the RCMP goalie flak-catcher, the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP.


The official complaint form states: ‘By submitting the complaint form, you are authorizing the Commissioner for Public Complaints Against the RCMP to collect your personal information’. So it turns out that any and all complaints received by the Commission along with all other relevant documentation are forwarded to the RCMP for investigation pursuant to subsection 45.35 (3) of the RCMP Act. And the cops decide whether the complaint against them has any merit. The Force regard the Complaints Commission as usurpers who are trying to impose their rulings over those of the RCMP Commissioner, and that statement comes directly from a retired RCMP Chief Superintendent. They ignore complaints, always have, always will; they refuse to give logical reasons for doing so and insult your intelligence with the ones they do give. The RCMP invariably exonerate the illegal or criminal actions of their own members. A ten day forfeiture of pay is the most serious punishment a Mountie can receive short of demotion and dismissal.

When you complain against the Mounties they then have all the pertinent information regarding the complainant on file. You can still say what you like about the Mounties but God help you if you say what you don’t like. When I was a kid I was told anyone could join the Mounties or work for the government. I’m beginning to believe it.​

Cover your ass and find the victim to blame is another ignorant methodology to justify police action, as clearly illustrated by the Robert Dziekanski case in the Vancouver airport on October 14, 2007. They did their damnedest to cover this up but fortunately someone had a camera and took pictures of what really happened, thus putting the lie to the previous testimony of the four officers who tasered Dziekanski five times when they went to the scene looking for a fight and a chance to test their weapons. Incidentally, police in Victoria recently told a young citizen that he could not take their pictures even when no incident was taking place. When ordered to put away his camera, the young man had the presence of mind to politely inform the female officer that he was a Canadian citizen standing on a public sidewalk, it was his camera and he was entitled to take pictures of anything he wanted. She retreated in confusion when he would not comply with her orders, but citizens beware of this gambit.


The RCMP even went to Poland in an effort to find evidence that would be detrimental to their victim Dziekanski and give warrant to their explosive deadly taser response rather than the help that he obviously required. Poland co-operated fully in accordance with the Canada-Poland treaty on ‘mutual legal assistance in criminal matters’. Upon their return the Canadian government immediately suspended the agreement with Poland, thus effectively preventing Poland from obtaining the release of transcripts of the Dziekanski inquiry, video, audiotapes and other evidence, without a court order. The RCMP is objecting to such an order as they don’t want that material released to the Polish government who has the right to charge persons responsible for the death of Polish citizens abroad – which is a general rule present in a majority of national legal systems.


This is the stuff of which fascist police states are made. So let us ask again – when is the RCMP going to investigate the crime and murder of twenty-four Canadians on 9/11 in New York City. They have two choices:


(1) investigate the crime of 9/11 properly, using the large amount of scientific and other factual evidence that has since then been assiduously supplied to them by scientists, legal, engineering, architectural and sundry professional other experts and eyewitnesses.


(2) Admit that their refusal to do so is a dereliction of duty and that the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP is nothing more than – in legal parlance - cowyard confetti.








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Complaint of The Conduct of Judges - 3 Parts
written by Eddie Achtem, April 08, 2009
Yeah this is one of the best Canadian anti cop corruption stories I've ever read. My forte is Judicial Corruption and Judicial Fraud committed by judges. Cop corruption and Judicial Corruption go hand in hand. If you fight one you do become a target for both to deprive of Justice... They think they're all above the law, and alot of lawyers too. I've been a target because of what happen to my father and what he did to retaliate. He had the former Dean of Law of the U of A raided by the EPS when he was in a hooker house so [he] later was fired by the U of A faculty of Law. You can view that story at; Chief Justice Allen Wachowich protects his collegues errors instead of acurracy of transcripts

So many judges and cops are on cahoot, and it a REAL huge conspiracy that lurks in so many place, and they have their monions...

Anyway here's a good story I saw on You tube the other day;

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...annel_page

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...annel_page

 

[china]

It's time again for B.C. to have own police force

By Jon Ferry, The ProvinceApril 22, 2009Comments (27)





Province columnist Jon Ferry

Photograph by: Les Bazso, The Province




It's not often I agree with the B.C. Green Party. In fact, I'm tired of its whole job-destroying granola mindset. However, I do applaud the party's bold, timely call for the RCMP to be replaced in this province by a police force that's more accountable to the people.
Have I been smoking something? No. I just think we should return to having a provincial force in B.C., as we did from 1859 until 1950, and that the scandal-ridden RCMP should stick to being a national police agency, rather like the FBI.
As for the contract policing services the Mounties now provide to various Lower Mainland municipalities, they'd be better done by a single metro police service. The same's true in Metro Victoria.
And I'm far from alone in my view. In fact, retired B.C. provincial court judge Wally Craig has just e-mailed me a new report by Simon Fraser University criminology Prof. Robert Gordon and ex-Vancouver police chief Bob Stewart strongly making the case for a Metro Vancouver police service. The hard-hitting "discussion paper" points out our region is the last large metro area in Canada not to be policed by a single force.
"The police-related problems of the Metro Vancouver area are largely regional problems, not purely local, municipal problems and are best dealt with by a police service that works across the whole area in a co-ordinated way," it says.
Now, given intense public disquiet over the drug-gang war and the RCMP's dishonourable role in Robert Dziekanski's death, I believe there's firm public support for a single regional force with clear lines of accountability. So-called integrated units of officers from a hodge-podge of RCMP detachments and municipal forces simply don't cut it.
Sure, Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts, Burnaby Mayor Derek Corrigan and other mayors outside the City of Vancouver favour the status quo. So do some residents, especially in cozy communities like Port Moody, Delta and West Vancouver.
Many ratepayers, though, want change. And it's an issue that's resonating in this election campaign, especially since high-profile former West Van police chief Kash Heed is running for the Liberals.
Heed hit the headlines in 2007 when he urged public debate on police amalgamation, only to draw a reprimand from Jon Les, then B.C.'s solicitor-general. But Les first backed down, then stepped down. And Heed now is being touted as a future solicitor-general, in position to make long-overdue changes before the RCMP contract with B.C. expires in 2012.
Heed tells me his Vancouver-Fraserview constituents are very concerned about crime, and regional policing is part of the discussion: "I very well think that we need to seriously look at whether or not that's going to deliver a better police service for us."
For this, Heed would appear to have wide support, including from NDP crime critic Mike Farnworth and Liberal Attorney-General Wally Oppal, who said years ago the police patchwork made no sense. It still doesn't.
jferry@theprovince.com
© Copyright (c) The Province

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Totally agree. Ottawa is simply too far away from BC to run our police force.

 

[darkbeaver]

It could send the wrong message to air travelers to prosecute these police officers too strenuously. We do have national security concerns that override individual rights you know and we have difficult border issues with the Americans to consider, they are already convinced that we are far too soft on terrorists and drug users.

 

[JLM]

It could send the wrong message to air travelers to prosecute these police officers too strenuously. We do have national security concerns that override individual rights you know and we have difficult border issues with the Americans to consider, they are already convinced that we are far too soft on terrorists and drug users.

I disagree, for our law enforcement officers to have any credibility, when they screw up they have to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Otherwise the whole charade just becomes an exercise in "nudge nudge wink wink".

 

[tracy]

Cause our city police forces are so great? Hello?

 

[missile]

I think you will find that all police forces are quite capable of sweeping problems with the locals under the rug. But, would the Mounties hesitate to arrest the Mayor's son? A local cop certainly would.

 

[darkbeaver]

They should never have sold out to Disney, they're just cartoons now.

 

[missile]

Gasp! The mountie souvenirs are made in China!:smile:

 

[Scott Free]

It won't help to change the enforcers of a confinement technology. It is the technology that is the problem.

 

[darkbeaver]

But Scott, prison growth is a dynamic component of todays economic miracle. You don't seem to realize the potential earnings and the developement horizons. We need the employment oportunies in our communities. It's estimated that almost half of any small town could be incarcerated employing the other half in long term good paying jobs with benefits while solveing several social problems simultaneously this is the kind of inside the box thinking we need these days.

 

[Scott Free]

Police are only a small part of the problem. It is the idea that a nation is an entity that must keep itself alive and preserve its boarders and feed itself, protect itself from enemies inside as well as out, and all at our expense and at the expense of our freedoms and liberties, which is the real problem.

 

[darkbeaver]

yep "tough" love for sure