Anybody else hear the whoosh as Tonington zoomed over FYM's head like an airplane heading for a tower?
Scientists find active 'super-thermite' in WTC dust
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You are right but thank God the buildings are down already because four ounces of Extra Super Duper Thrusto Zoomo Pico Turbo Hypersonic thermite would level a square mile of the city.......Still.....It'd be good for developers...;-)
No stress here, the problems at your end. I'm just waiting patiently to have some real facts presented by you and DB.
Nope, but I know there's no way in hell a chemical designed to light up Mylar and molecularity weld, brought down the towers.
Yep, it's in developement for uses in molecular welding and as heat siganture decoy flares. Not demolition.
You mean the pipeline being paid for by a Chinese consortium?
Are you surprised?
:lol:
So in otherwords...zip, ziltch, nada...thanx again for being consistant DB, as empty and predictable as ever.
:lol:, to bad you're already gone, you looked fun. ;-)
I heard while I was still at work.
Hey Ton, my boss says you owe him for new windows...:lol:
A team of nine scientists have unearthed startling data from dust gathered in the days and weeks after the World Trade Center towers collapsed on 9/11. They discovered that scattered throughout the dust samples were red and gray chips of ‘active thermitic material’, or an un-reacted pyrotechnic explosive.
Thermite is used in steel welding, fireworks shows, and hand grenades. It is the combination of a metal powder and a metal oxide which produce a reaction known for extremely high temperatures focused in a very small area for a short period of time. The ‘active thermitic material’ discovered in the World Trade Center dust was a combination of elemental aluminum and iron oxide, and is a form of thermite known as ‘nano-structured super-thermite’.
“These observations reminded us of nano-thermite fabricated at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and elsewhere; available papers describe this material as an intimate mixture of UFG[Ultra-fine grain] aluminum and iron oxide in nano-thermite composites to form pyrotechnics or explosives. Commercially available thermite behaves as an incendiary when ignited, but when the ingredients are ultra-fine grain and are intimately mixed, this ‘nano-thermite’ reacts very rapidly, even explosively, and is sometimes referred to as ’super-thermite’,” the report explains.
Some of the authors of the paper have lost their jobs at universities and chemistry labs for their outspoken breakdown of what happened at the World Trade Center on 9/11. Kevin Ryan lost his job as a lab director after writing a letter to the National Institute for Standards and Technology(NIST was conducting an investigation into 9/11 at the time) challenging the common theory that burning jet fuel weakened the steel supports holding up the 110-story skyscrapers. Ryan claims that the owner of his laboratory subsidiary “was the company that certified the steel components used in the construction of the WTC buildings,” according to the South Bend Tribune. Dr. Steven E. Jones, a physicist at Brigham Young University, presented a paper in 2005 discussing alternative theories to the commonly accepted ‘jet fuel’ reasoning. In September 2006 he was placed on paid administrative leave and his paper was removed from the BYU database.
Jones has told Visibility911.com, “In short, the paper explodes the official story that ‘no evidence’ exists for explosive/pyrotechnic materials in the WTC buildings.”
Parts of the report mention other studies being conducted by the scientists that will come out soon.
Scientists find active ’super-thermite’ in WTC dust
Thermite is used in steel welding, fireworks shows, and hand grenades. It is the combination of a metal powder and a metal oxide which produce a reaction known for extremely high temperatures focused in a very small area for a short period of time. The ‘active thermitic material’ discovered in the World Trade Center dust was a combination of elemental aluminum and iron oxide, and is a form of thermite known as ‘nano-structured super-thermite’.
“These observations reminded us of nano-thermite fabricated at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and elsewhere; available papers describe this material as an intimate mixture of UFG[Ultra-fine grain] aluminum and iron oxide in nano-thermite composites to form pyrotechnics or explosives. Commercially available thermite behaves as an incendiary when ignited, but when the ingredients are ultra-fine grain and are intimately mixed, this ‘nano-thermite’ reacts very rapidly, even explosively, and is sometimes referred to as ’super-thermite’,” the report explains.
Some of the authors of the paper have lost their jobs at universities and chemistry labs for their outspoken breakdown of what happened at the World Trade Center on 9/11. Kevin Ryan lost his job as a lab director after writing a letter to the National Institute for Standards and Technology(NIST was conducting an investigation into 9/11 at the time) challenging the common theory that burning jet fuel weakened the steel supports holding up the 110-story skyscrapers. Ryan claims that the owner of his laboratory subsidiary “was the company that certified the steel components used in the construction of the WTC buildings,” according to the South Bend Tribune. Dr. Steven E. Jones, a physicist at Brigham Young University, presented a paper in 2005 discussing alternative theories to the commonly accepted ‘jet fuel’ reasoning. In September 2006 he was placed on paid administrative leave and his paper was removed from the BYU database.
Jones has told Visibility911.com, “In short, the paper explodes the official story that ‘no evidence’ exists for explosive/pyrotechnic materials in the WTC buildings.”
Parts of the report mention other studies being conducted by the scientists that will come out soon.
Scientists find active ’super-thermite’ in WTC dust
Huh:?:
Ummm, have you missed the past several pages?
We had a student of science explain how the study was flawed due largely to the unprofessional and unscientific process followed.
Not to mention, me, and my post explaining the true nature of 'Nano thermite'. Which does not have the capability to bring down a building. It's on the development table, being geared for molecular welding and flares for miltary uses.
So, in closing, please feel free to go back and refute any of the assertions I've made or anyone else for that matter.
I'm glad you're still clining to the site. ;-)
Seemed to be a bit more exasperated than usual about people who don't measure up ... but then megaquotes get annoying to follow after a while....
Not even a tad bit exasperated. Humoured, exhausted from laughing so hard. Lone, some people would actually have to put something of real substance forward to be weighed, for me to measure them...;-)
I have a lot to say. That is after all, why we're here...non?
The B-25 that Crashed Into the Empire State Building
Written by Alan Bellows on July 12th, 2006 at 4:02 pm
From DamnInteresting.com
This is a classic Damn Interesting article which originally appeared on 10 November 2005. We apologize for the re-run.
On a Saturday morning in July of 1945, Army Air Corps bomber pilot Lt. Colonel William Smith was trying to fly his B-25 bomber through a steadily increasing fog. He was on his way to Newark airport to pick up his commanding officer when he appeared above New York Municipal airport (now La Guardia airport) about 25 miles to the east of his destination. He was requesting a weather report.
Municipal tower reported extremely poor visibility over New York, and urged him to land, but Lt. Colonel Smith requested and received clearance from the military to continue his flight. "From where I'm sitting," the tower operator warned, "I can't see the top of the Empire State Building." Despite the advice from the Municipal tower, Smith plunged into the soupy fog with his two crewmen, bound for Manhattan.
Partway through their flight, the pilot quickly became disoriented because he was unable to see the ground below, and he lost his way. Despite Manhattan regulations that forbade aircraft from flying below 2,000 feet, Smith made the decision to drop below 1,000 feet in an attempt to untangle his bomber from the densest part of the fog. When his plane emerged from the thick, his visibility indeed improved. All around his aircraft, silhouettes of skyscrapers towered above Smith and his crew… and the New York Central Building was directly ahead.
Smith reacted quickly and banked hard, pushing the lumbering bomber to its stress limits to try to avoid the collision. His plane just missed the New York Central Building, flying past its west side with little room to spare. Dozens of skyscrapers lay beyond the first one, leaving a forest of fog-shrouded towers in the plane's path. Smith tried to gain altitude as he weaved between the ghostly shadows of buildings, forcing the bomber to maneuver at its operational extremes.
When the Empire State Building emerged from the fog right ahead of his craft, Smith banked his plane and pulled back as hard as he was able, but the bomber lacked the maneuverability to dodge the large tower looming over it. At 9:49 a.m, in the middle of a desperate, climbing turn, the ten-ton B-25 slammed into the 79th floor of the Empire State Building.
Inside, workers for the War Relief Services of the National Catholic Welfare Conference had already started work when their offices were suddenly engulfed an an explosion of flaming, high-octane fuel. The burning gasoline traveled through hallways, stairwells, and elevator shafts, reaching as far as four floors below the point of impact as the building shook. A publicist working in the offices was propelled out of a window from the explosion, and ten others were caught in the inferno.
Fire and debris rained upon the surrounding area, mostly onto nearby structures. One of the bomber's engines completely penetrated the Empire State Building, and fell from the opposite side. The other engine flew into an elevator shaft and severed the cable of an elevator car carrying two women, sending it into free fall.
Catherine O'Connor, who was working in the offices at the time of the crash, later recounted her experience:
"The plane exploded within the building. There were five or six seconds– I was tottering on my feet trying to keep my balance– and three-quarters of the office was instantaneously consumed in this sheet of flame. One man was standing inside the flame. I could see him. It was a co-worker, Joe Fountain. His whole body was on fire. I kept calling to him, 'Come on, Joe; come on, Joe.'" He walked out of it.
Doris Pope, also in the building at the time, initially suspected that World War 2 had been brought to American soil:
"That day, as we were getting ready to take our coffee break, we heard this terrible noise, and the building started to shake. … As we looked out our third-floor window, we saw debris fall on to the street. We immediately thought New York was being bombed."
Helen J. Hurwitt, who had been working in an office across the street, recounted:
"My husband and I were in a building directly opposite the Empire State Building. … Large plate-glass windows looked out onto 34th Street. The floor we were on was pretty high. At some point, we heard a horrendous noise and rushed to the windows. We were horrified to see a B-25 half in and half out of the Empire State Building."
The 4-alarm fire brought every available piece of fire-fighting apparatus to the scene. As the building was evacuated, firemen spent about an hour extinguishing the flames. The two women who had been in the free falling elevator were found alive, owing to the elevator's hydraulic emergency braking system which had slowed the car down slightly, and to the cushion of broken, coiled cables which had piled up at the shaft's bottom. Sadly, one of the women was fatally wounded, and died shortly after she was found. The surviving woman, Betty Lou Oliver, currently holds a world record for surviving the 75-story free fall.
All told, fourteen men and women were killed in the accident, including Lt. Colonel William Smith and his two crewmen, nine office workers killed from the fire, and the woman who died in the elevator. Joe Fountain, the man who had been caught in the fire but managed to walk out of it, died of his wounds several days later. In addition, twenty-six people were injured.
The impact left a hole in the north face of the Empire State Building eighteen feet wide by twenty feet high. Photographer Ernie Sisto captured this incredible image from the 90th floor, where he had two other newsmen dangle him out the window by his legs so he could get the shot past the ledge. Later in the day, a news broadcast by Mutual Broadcasting Company included interviews with eyewitnesses, as well as an audio recording of the crash which had been accidentally captured by a nearby recording studio.
Investigation showed that the structural integrity of the Empire State Building was not compromised by this accident, but the cost to repair the damage was on the order of a million dollars. For more information, you might check your local library for old copies of New York daily newspapers on microfilm; this was front page news in New York City on July 29, 1945.
Damn Interesting » The B-25 that Crashed Into the Empire State Building
The similarity's here should give you an idea that planes hitting a building will not necessarily make it collapse .
INTO ITS OWN FOOT PRINT.!!!
Written by Alan Bellows on July 12th, 2006 at 4:02 pm
From DamnInteresting.com
This is a classic Damn Interesting article which originally appeared on 10 November 2005. We apologize for the re-run.
Municipal tower reported extremely poor visibility over New York, and urged him to land, but Lt. Colonel Smith requested and received clearance from the military to continue his flight. "From where I'm sitting," the tower operator warned, "I can't see the top of the Empire State Building." Despite the advice from the Municipal tower, Smith plunged into the soupy fog with his two crewmen, bound for Manhattan.
Partway through their flight, the pilot quickly became disoriented because he was unable to see the ground below, and he lost his way. Despite Manhattan regulations that forbade aircraft from flying below 2,000 feet, Smith made the decision to drop below 1,000 feet in an attempt to untangle his bomber from the densest part of the fog. When his plane emerged from the thick, his visibility indeed improved. All around his aircraft, silhouettes of skyscrapers towered above Smith and his crew… and the New York Central Building was directly ahead.
Smith reacted quickly and banked hard, pushing the lumbering bomber to its stress limits to try to avoid the collision. His plane just missed the New York Central Building, flying past its west side with little room to spare. Dozens of skyscrapers lay beyond the first one, leaving a forest of fog-shrouded towers in the plane's path. Smith tried to gain altitude as he weaved between the ghostly shadows of buildings, forcing the bomber to maneuver at its operational extremes.
Inside, workers for the War Relief Services of the National Catholic Welfare Conference had already started work when their offices were suddenly engulfed an an explosion of flaming, high-octane fuel. The burning gasoline traveled through hallways, stairwells, and elevator shafts, reaching as far as four floors below the point of impact as the building shook. A publicist working in the offices was propelled out of a window from the explosion, and ten others were caught in the inferno.
Fire and debris rained upon the surrounding area, mostly onto nearby structures. One of the bomber's engines completely penetrated the Empire State Building, and fell from the opposite side. The other engine flew into an elevator shaft and severed the cable of an elevator car carrying two women, sending it into free fall.
Catherine O'Connor, who was working in the offices at the time of the crash, later recounted her experience:
"The plane exploded within the building. There were five or six seconds– I was tottering on my feet trying to keep my balance– and three-quarters of the office was instantaneously consumed in this sheet of flame. One man was standing inside the flame. I could see him. It was a co-worker, Joe Fountain. His whole body was on fire. I kept calling to him, 'Come on, Joe; come on, Joe.'" He walked out of it.
Doris Pope, also in the building at the time, initially suspected that World War 2 had been brought to American soil:
"That day, as we were getting ready to take our coffee break, we heard this terrible noise, and the building started to shake. … As we looked out our third-floor window, we saw debris fall on to the street. We immediately thought New York was being bombed."
Helen J. Hurwitt, who had been working in an office across the street, recounted:
"My husband and I were in a building directly opposite the Empire State Building. … Large plate-glass windows looked out onto 34th Street. The floor we were on was pretty high. At some point, we heard a horrendous noise and rushed to the windows. We were horrified to see a B-25 half in and half out of the Empire State Building."
The 4-alarm fire brought every available piece of fire-fighting apparatus to the scene. As the building was evacuated, firemen spent about an hour extinguishing the flames. The two women who had been in the free falling elevator were found alive, owing to the elevator's hydraulic emergency braking system which had slowed the car down slightly, and to the cushion of broken, coiled cables which had piled up at the shaft's bottom. Sadly, one of the women was fatally wounded, and died shortly after she was found. The surviving woman, Betty Lou Oliver, currently holds a world record for surviving the 75-story free fall.
The impact left a hole in the north face of the Empire State Building eighteen feet wide by twenty feet high. Photographer Ernie Sisto captured this incredible image from the 90th floor, where he had two other newsmen dangle him out the window by his legs so he could get the shot past the ledge. Later in the day, a news broadcast by Mutual Broadcasting Company included interviews with eyewitnesses, as well as an audio recording of the crash which had been accidentally captured by a nearby recording studio.
Investigation showed that the structural integrity of the Empire State Building was not compromised by this accident, but the cost to repair the damage was on the order of a million dollars. For more information, you might check your local library for old copies of New York daily newspapers on microfilm; this was front page news in New York City on July 29, 1945.
Damn Interesting » The B-25 that Crashed Into the Empire State Building
The similarity's here should give you an idea that planes hitting a building will not necessarily make it collapse .
INTO ITS OWN FOOT PRINT.!!!
Compare the size, speed and fuel load of a B-25 vs a Boeing 767. All you have to do is read through our archives....
And the differences should give you an idea that there's no legitimate comparison with the WTC at all: much larger aircraft, very different building construction techniques, much higher impact velocities... :roll:
The monumental differences should be obvious to even the most incompetent civilian.
First, a B 25 was what 31,000lbs at take off, while a 767 is what 404,000lbs at take off. Then you have the speed capabilities of each aircraft. This is simple mass vs static object.
Then of course, there is the most glaring difference of all. The WTC and the Empire State Building are two completely different designs. In fact, so much so, it would be safe to call them monumentally different. But yes, if you ignore all the simple truths of all the crap you just posted, then ignore simple math, mass and facts, you can easily say what it is you are trying to lie about.
:roll: This has been proved to be patently false, over and over and over.
Then ignore reality...;-)
And all irrelevant when ignored by the C/T folk. ;-)
Look Guys all i was saying is that it is not practical that a airplane of this size to cause the lower floors to collapse.
It is beyond logic that what has said to of occurred has occurred ,i would love to see your faces when my children's children are allowed to read the official secrets and prove you all swallowed the bait, and are to dam proud to change your minds OR to "dumb" to "realize" otherwise.! How much of a mistake was the whole pentagon,wtc7,and wtc1-1 FIASCO.!
I suggest you look into the ideas put forward of ppl who say things like.
The BBC's twenty minutes early foreclosure of wtc7 collapse while still being in TV SHOT
was a big FOE PAR.?
and ALSO the NOSE-OUT videos that were later covered with company banners,prove some TV-fakery.
These things should give you a clue of your total one sided
' TV 'INSPIRED DEARS OF WHAT HAPPENED'
And subsequent rhetoric to the contrary ever since,and disbelief of any other view you don't know the truth, and your dam well not letting someone else fill in the pieces for you are you.!
Well good luck in your prison built by F.E.M.A. and the Hr55 bill your future is your own making i hope your ready for it ,here's your Veri-chip your FLU-Jab and your fluoridated water ,do continue your excellent work of dumbing down yourselves and your com padre's .
Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
is a good site to start to REALIZE how PATHETIC your READ THE PAST FORUMS POST AND WE KNOW BETTER THEN YOU B/S
A word of advice there is a world out side CANADIAN CONTENT FORUM bias rhetoric and superimposed TITLES to whom ever there **** you are because to tell the truth you haven't got the qualifications to tie your own shoelaces .
Now be nice and see IF you can answer this one question about 9/11
Flight 93..?
where are the body's and luggage much the same as where are the passengers and luggage of those poor souls that died hitting the pentagon ...?????
hr mm oops can we have all the video tapes please of the surrounding area for our records
Great. thanks nothing to see here move along please.
YEA RIGHT .!
It is beyond logic that what has said to of occurred has occurred ,i would love to see your faces when my children's children are allowed to read the official secrets and prove you all swallowed the bait, and are to dam proud to change your minds OR to "dumb" to "realize" otherwise.! How much of a mistake was the whole pentagon,wtc7,and wtc1-1 FIASCO.!
I suggest you look into the ideas put forward of ppl who say things like.
The BBC's twenty minutes early foreclosure of wtc7 collapse while still being in TV SHOT
was a big FOE PAR.?
and ALSO the NOSE-OUT videos that were later covered with company banners,prove some TV-fakery.
These things should give you a clue of your total one sided
' TV 'INSPIRED DEARS OF WHAT HAPPENED'
And subsequent rhetoric to the contrary ever since,and disbelief of any other view you don't know the truth, and your dam well not letting someone else fill in the pieces for you are you.!
Well good luck in your prison built by F.E.M.A. and the Hr55 bill your future is your own making i hope your ready for it ,here's your Veri-chip your FLU-Jab and your fluoridated water ,do continue your excellent work of dumbing down yourselves and your com padre's .
Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
is a good site to start to REALIZE how PATHETIC your READ THE PAST FORUMS POST AND WE KNOW BETTER THEN YOU B/S
A word of advice there is a world out side CANADIAN CONTENT FORUM bias rhetoric and superimposed TITLES to whom ever there **** you are because to tell the truth you haven't got the qualifications to tie your own shoelaces .
Now be nice and see IF you can answer this one question about 9/11
Flight 93..?
where are the body's and luggage much the same as where are the passengers and luggage of those poor souls that died hitting the pentagon ...?????
hr mm oops can we have all the video tapes please of the surrounding area for our records
Great. thanks nothing to see here move along please.
YEA RIGHT .!
Are you sure you're not Quandary 121? The "I-am-the-truth-come-kiss-my-ring" belligerence is remarkably similar.
Do you know how to look through archives because keyword search is a cumbersome beast here....
As i suspected when asked a Question you revert to name calling i read through the posts of said quandary and see that you showed as much your prefabrication of said view points as you do mine ,so if you wish to pretend im Quandary 121 so that you can continue your absinthe,quibbling go ahead did you happen to know what happened to flight 93.?
kiss-my-ring AKA lone wolf
Does anyone KNOW ... other than it fall down go BOOM!
I believe it was the only one actually intercepted and brought down....
Name calling? Call it as you wish. Apparently there will be no dialogue with you as you want agreement. You came to the wrong place for that....