Safe to say that if that hate literature targeted Democrats/Liberals, you would be all indignant about it.
No I wouldn’t.
No I wouldn’t.
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SirJosephPorter, whenever I see your last-resort, desperate respond: "That is your opinion" (and you have been forced to use it more and more often, lacking logic and reason to support your transparent arguments), I am comfortable with the knowledge that I won an argument.
If you would rather believe "scientists" than your own eyes, then there is no point debating with you.
If you would rather believe "scientists" than your own eyes, then there is no point debating with you.
I'd say there isn't enough critical literature targeted at politicians regardless of camp they set up their tipis in
They kept Charles Manson alive because he is too valuable as a research topic. Just as I say Einstein wouldn't have been executed if'd blown a o-ring and went on a pampage because his mind, crazy or not, is too valuable.
Again, that is your opinion (that you won the argument) and you are entitled to it.
If you would rather believe "scientists" than your own eyes,
Certainly I would rather believe scientists than my own eyes. One’s eyes can play tricks many times. Thus, when I go to see a magic show, I don’t believe my own eyes, but I believe the magicians who tell us that it is all trickery, that they didn’t really make an elephant disappear, that they didn’t really saw a man in half and then join him back.
Same as I believe scientists that earth is round, even though to my eyes it looks flat. So one’s eyes can be notoriously unreliable.
It could be said the other way around.. That those who are willing to kill a born and grown person are usually the first to
- refuse the right of a suffering, yet incurable person the right to die
- willing to allow the the birth of a child that could live with unknown drug / birth deformities that could be so excruciatingly painful death would be preferable but in the name of Morality we make them Suffer.
So is assisted death and so it should be permitted for those who no longer want to suffer and still have the rightful mind ability to request so.
There are those so determine to impose Moral rights on others that we endanger them and often make criminal out of others that should not be.
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HELL NO! I'M NOT PREJUDICED AGAINST GAYS, MUSLIMS, HANDICAPPED, WOMEN, OR ABORIGINALS!!!
HAD YOU READ MY POSTS YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT!!!
But yes, I openly confess to hating Republicans. I'll GLADLY bring out the hanging tree for any of those crooked basturds. And with a vengeance, too!
I also oppose abortions such as these:
Careful Gopher, you speak the truth and some cannot handle that..
You should just say hang all crooked politicians we all probably would be behind you.
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gopher, you and I know that if the hate you displayed here had been targeting some other minority (yeah, Republicans are a minority) it would have been your passport out of this forum.
You and I also know that in this sick, politically correct world anyone on the right side is a fair game for hate, death-wish, debasement and ridicule. And we both know that you can get away with it, that is why you abuse it to your heart's content.
Pity that you reveal the pathetic weakness of your argument by using "CAPITOL" letters in your even more pathetic hatred for those "BASTURDS".
Gopher, get back in your hole.
You and I also know that in this sick, politically correct world anyone on the right side is a fair game for hate, death-wish, debasement and ridicule. And we both know that you can get away with it, that is why you abuse it to your heart's content.
Pity that you reveal the pathetic weakness of your argument by using "CAPITOL" letters in your even more pathetic hatred for those "BASTURDS".
Gopher, get back in your hole.
Re #65.
I must compliment you, SirJosephPorter! You are the undisputed champion of spin, rationalizing and misleading interpretation of the words of everyone who has the gall to disagree with you.
But I must - much as it pains me - agree with you. The "scientists" you so blindly and unquestioningly believe are, indeed, no better than the carnival snake oil salesmen who mesmerize the gullible. Sorry to include you in that group, but based on your own post one has no choice but to do so.
Believe me, the LIFE I saw through the ultra-sound was cno magic. It was a HUMAN life within her mother's womb, waiting to exit and attain the status that abortionist baby-killers deem she deserves at the end of nine months.
Sure, put your faith in "scientists". There was a time when the most informed and best educated "scientists" declared that the Earth was flat (to use your own example to sink your weak argument). There was a time when the best educated and most informed "scientists" were convinced that everything in existence consisted of four elements, which were not elements, at all. Yet another time the great "scientists" of the day KNEW that they could convert lead to gold using the "Philosopher's stone". Sometime before (or maybe after) the great "scientists" put all their faith in "Phlogiston". Sometime later, the most worthy "scientists" declared that travel by rail was impossible, because speed over 20 mph would wreck the human body. And then there was a group of "scientists" who declared that people of black skin colour were inferior.
Shall I go on?
Sure, deny the life or even the very existence of a very real human being in the womb. Sure, kill it! One can only hope that you will have the wisdom to change your opinion not when your "scientists" tell you when life starts, but when you see it in the development of your first grand child in the womb of your daughter-in-law.
I must compliment you, SirJosephPorter! You are the undisputed champion of spin, rationalizing and misleading interpretation of the words of everyone who has the gall to disagree with you.
But I must - much as it pains me - agree with you. The "scientists" you so blindly and unquestioningly believe are, indeed, no better than the carnival snake oil salesmen who mesmerize the gullible. Sorry to include you in that group, but based on your own post one has no choice but to do so.
Believe me, the LIFE I saw through the ultra-sound was cno magic. It was a HUMAN life within her mother's womb, waiting to exit and attain the status that abortionist baby-killers deem she deserves at the end of nine months.
Sure, put your faith in "scientists". There was a time when the most informed and best educated "scientists" declared that the Earth was flat (to use your own example to sink your weak argument). There was a time when the best educated and most informed "scientists" were convinced that everything in existence consisted of four elements, which were not elements, at all. Yet another time the great "scientists" of the day KNEW that they could convert lead to gold using the "Philosopher's stone". Sometime before (or maybe after) the great "scientists" put all their faith in "Phlogiston". Sometime later, the most worthy "scientists" declared that travel by rail was impossible, because speed over 20 mph would wreck the human body. And then there was a group of "scientists" who declared that people of black skin colour were inferior.
Shall I go on?
Sure, deny the life or even the very existence of a very real human being in the womb. Sure, kill it! One can only hope that you will have the wisdom to change your opinion not when your "scientists" tell you when life starts, but when you see it in the development of your first grand child in the womb of your daughter-in-law.
I must compliment you, SirJosephPorter! You are the undisputed champion of spin, rationalizing and misleading interpretation of the words of everyone who has the gall to disagree with you.
Why, thank you, Yukon Jack.
Believe me, the LIFE I saw through the ultra-sound was cno magic.
I don’t know exactly what you are saying here (that ‘cno’ looks like a spelling mistake, but I can’t figure out what the correct word is supposed to be). However, you are merely stating your personal opinion, no doubt heavily tainted by your religious beliefs.
Indeed, when you call something ‘magic’, it is clear you are not talking of logic, reason and science, but emotion, personal opinion and religion (or mysticism).
Yet another time the great "scientists" of the day KNEW that they could convert lead to gold using the "Philosopher's stone".
Now, I won’t hear a word against alchemists of the Middle Ages. They were the scientists of the day, trying to do the best they could with the available knowledge. The fact that they were on a fool’s errand is neither here nor their. The alchemists were the ancestors of modern day chemists and scientists and as such have my respect.
There was a time when the best educated and most informed "scientists" were convinced that everything in existence consisted of four elements, which were not elements, at all.
Sometime before (or maybe after) the great "scientists" put all their faith in "Phlogiston".
That is how science evolves. Based upon observations, scientists formulate theories to explain the observed phenomena. The fact that sometimes they get it wrong is hardly surprising. They do the best that they can with the available knowledge and experimental techniques. Science is like groping in the dark. So it is not really any wonder that scientists get it wrong sometimes.
However, scientists learn from their mistakes, they continuously question their theories, take observations, refine and modify their theories. That is how science progresses. Scientists are fallible, mortal human beings, as opposed to Pope and Fundamentalist preachers, who are all knowing (since they have a direct hotline to God) and presumably are infallible.
However, I would much rather believe fallible, groping in the dark scientists, rather than believe the omniscient, all knowing right wing extreme preachers or Pope. After all, science has given us the miracle of modern technology. If we had relied on religion, we would still be in the Dark Ages, dying of plague and burning witches.
Why, thank you, Yukon Jack.
Believe me, the LIFE I saw through the ultra-sound was cno magic.
I don’t know exactly what you are saying here (that ‘cno’ looks like a spelling mistake, but I can’t figure out what the correct word is supposed to be). However, you are merely stating your personal opinion, no doubt heavily tainted by your religious beliefs.
Indeed, when you call something ‘magic’, it is clear you are not talking of logic, reason and science, but emotion, personal opinion and religion (or mysticism).
Yet another time the great "scientists" of the day KNEW that they could convert lead to gold using the "Philosopher's stone".
Now, I won’t hear a word against alchemists of the Middle Ages. They were the scientists of the day, trying to do the best they could with the available knowledge. The fact that they were on a fool’s errand is neither here nor their. The alchemists were the ancestors of modern day chemists and scientists and as such have my respect.
There was a time when the best educated and most informed "scientists" were convinced that everything in existence consisted of four elements, which were not elements, at all.
Sometime before (or maybe after) the great "scientists" put all their faith in "Phlogiston".
That is how science evolves. Based upon observations, scientists formulate theories to explain the observed phenomena. The fact that sometimes they get it wrong is hardly surprising. They do the best that they can with the available knowledge and experimental techniques. Science is like groping in the dark. So it is not really any wonder that scientists get it wrong sometimes.
However, scientists learn from their mistakes, they continuously question their theories, take observations, refine and modify their theories. That is how science progresses. Scientists are fallible, mortal human beings, as opposed to Pope and Fundamentalist preachers, who are all knowing (since they have a direct hotline to God) and presumably are infallible.
However, I would much rather believe fallible, groping in the dark scientists, rather than believe the omniscient, all knowing right wing extreme preachers or Pope. After all, science has given us the miracle of modern technology. If we had relied on religion, we would still be in the Dark Ages, dying of plague and burning witches.
Let me ask you a simple question. If Gopher had said the exact same thing about Liberals / Democrats your reply would have been?
PRAISE THE LORD and LOUDER BROTHER ?
His response would have been, Praise The Lord and Pass The Loot (remember the PTL ministries, run by Jim Bakker?).
If you (Canada) is willing to find a secure home for our poor trodden upon death row inmates, your more that welcome to them. Give them one of your deserted islands to live on. We don't want them.
Sorry, ironsides, they are your problem, not ours. What you do with them is your business. At the same time, whenever there is a violation of human rights (as I consider death penalty to be), we (and indeed, everybody) have the right and the duty to speak out.
"Sorry, ironsides, they are your problem, not ours. What you do with them is your business."
There you go, you gave the right answer.
There you go, you gave the right answer.
"Sorry, ironsides, they are your problem, not ours. What you do with them is your business."
There you go, you gave the right answer.
And why did you ignore the second half of my answer (about death penalty being a violation of human rights)? Amnesty International has called USA out on death penalty, you may be aware.