The obscenity of Britain giving Ted Kennedy a knighthood

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The Daily Mail's Andrew Roberts says that Britain giving US senator Ted Kennedy an honorary knighthood (only Commonwealth citizens can be given actual knighthoods) is nothing short of obscene.

This was a man (of Irish ancestry, as his Irish great-grandfather emigrated to the US in 1849) who castigated successive British governments during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

In 1971, Kennedy likened the British presence in Northern Ireland (a part of the UK and not a foreign country) to the American invasion of Vietnam - a despicable analogy at a time when U.S. troops were using the poisonous chemical Agent Orange and napalm against the Vietcong.

He went on to state that the Protestants of Ulster 'should be given a decent opportunity to go back to Britain'. The fact that they had been in Ulster for 360 years - three times as long as the Kennedys had been in America - clearly passed him by.

His call for British withdrawal from Northern Ireland in 1980 was condemned as ignorant grandstanding by the great Irish statesman Conor Cruise O'Brien, but it went down well in the Irish pubs in Boston where money was raised for the shamelessly pro-IRA fundraising organisation Noraid.

Kennedy's ancestors have a dubious history, too.

Ted Kennedy's father, Joe, was American ambassador to Britain during World War II. The British derided this cowardly man, nicknaming him "Jittery Joe" when he panicked whenever bombs fell on London.

As the U.S. envoy, he was an unrelenting appeaser and as unhelpful to Britain as it was possible to be in those perilous days, believing that Adolf Hitler was going to win the war.

And when, during the Blitz in November 1940, he remarked: 'Democracy is finished in England' he was forced to resign within a month.

All this comes just after President Barack Obama decided to return to Britain the bust of Sir Winston Churchill, which stood proudly for years in the Oval Office.

ANDREW ROBERTS: The obscenity of giving Ted Kennedy a knighthood

By Andrew Roberts
05th March 2009
Daily Mail

The decision to award an honorary knighthood to Senator Edward Kennedy shows Britain at its most masochistic, New Labour at its most cynical and - if he accepts it - Kennedy at his most hypocritical.

To bestow such a distinction on a man who has spent almost all his adult life profoundly opposed to the United Kingdom's best interests also makes a mockery of the honours system.

Ever since Patrick Kennedy (Ted's Irish great-grandfather) set foot on Noddle Island, Boston, on April 21, 1849, the family has nursed a deep resentment against the country that they blame for forcing them out of County Wexford during the Great Potato Famine.


Shameful past: Kennedy with Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams

Ted Kennedy's father, Joe, who had made his money from bootlegging in the Prohibition era, became American ambassador to London from 1938 to 1940. As the U.S. envoy, he was an unrelenting appeaser and as unhelpful to Britain as it was possible to be in those perilous days, believing that Adolf Hitler was going to win the war.

Derided by the British as a coward and known as 'Jittery Joe' for panicking when bombs were falling, his term as ambassador ended abruptly, along with his political ambitions, during the Blitz in November 1940 when he remarked: 'Democracy is finished in England.' Within a month he was forced to resign.

Over all matters concerning Ireland, the Kennedys have taken a pro-Nationalist line that has been deeply antagonistic to the Union of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. That is why it is absurd for Gordon Brown to make this award, in the words of its official citation, 'for services to U.S.-UK relations and to Northern Ireland'.

For it is no exaggeration to say that Ted Kennedy did his damnedest to poison U.S.-UK relations over Ulster during the long decades in which he has castigated successive British governments. Rather than expressing any genuine commitment to peace in Northern Ireland, he would always play exclusively to his own Catholic-Irish voters in Massachusetts, whom he has represented in the Senate for more than 46 years.

Although he was always careful to use weasel words to condemn violence on both sides, it was always for Britain and the Ulster Protestants that he reserved his most withering rebukes. For the Queen to be obliged to honour this man is nothing less than an obscenity.


Tragic: Mary Jo Kopechne died in Senator Kennedy's car


Let us look more closely at his record in relation to Ulster.

In 1971, Kennedy likened the British presence there to the American invasion of Vietnam - a despicable analogy at a time when U.S. troops were using the poisonous chemical Agent Orange and napalm against the Vietcong.

He went on to state that the Protestants of Ulster 'should be given a decent opportunity to go back to Britain'. The fact that they had been in Ulster for 360 years - three times as long as the Kennedys had been in America - clearly passed him by. It was not until St Patrick's Day 1977 that Ted acknowledged that the Protestants might be allowed to remain in their homeland.

In 1978, he successfully pressured President Jimmy Carter's administration not to allow the U.S. to sell arms to the Royal Ulster Constabulary - sanctions which effectively equated Britain's Ulster police force with repressive dictatorial regimes in Africa and Asia!

It was no coincidence that he raised the flag of Irish nationalism whenever his Senate seat came up for re-election. His call for British withdrawal from Northern Ireland in 1980 was condemned as ignorant grandstanding by the great Irish statesman Conor Cruise O'Brien, but it went down well in the Irish pubs in Boston where money was raised for the shamelessly pro-IRA fundraising organisation Noraid.

True to form, Kennedy blamed British 'insensitivity' for the 1981 hunger strikes led by the terrorist Bobby Sands in Belfast's Maze prison, rather than the IRA for the continuing murderous strife in Northern Ireland.

We can only be thankful in Britain that Ted Kennedy narrowly missed being elected as Democratic candidate for the Presidency in 1980, for he might have won the White House.

His chances were wrecked by those still unanswered questions about the death by drowning 11 years earlier of 29-year-old Mary Jo Kopechne, a pretty political assistant, in a car driven by Kennedy.

It is important to go back to that horrific incident - and to Kennedy's despicable behaviour on the night - to explain why his character alone ought to disqualify him from any British honour, irrespective of his shameful support for the terrorist IRA.

At 12.45am on July 18, 1969, and with Mary Jo in his car, Kennedy - who had been drinking and partying - drove off the Dike Bridge connecting Martha's Vineyard (where the Kennedys had their holiday retreat on America's East coast) with Chappaquiddick Island.

He managed to extricate himself, walk back to his motel, complain to the manager about a noisy party, take a shower, sleep the night, chat to a friend the next morning, order two newspapers, meet his lawyers and finally report the accident to the police at 9.45am.

By then, however, his car had been spotted and Mary Jo's corpse had been found by a fire department diver, Captain John Farrar, at 8.45am.

She had not drowned, but had survived in an air pocket inside the car, only to asphyxiate when the oxygen finally ran out several hours later. The brutal fact is that had Kennedy alerted the police earlier, Mary Jo might be alive today.

She was given no autopsy and Kennedy was not charged with drink-driving, but merely given a two-month suspended sentence for leaving the scene of an accident. To this day, Kennedy has not apologised to Mary Jo's family, and, of course, the tragedy did not for a moment affect his future rampant drinking and womanising.



Tactical: Senator Kennedy supported Barack Obama early in his presidential candidacy


Many questions about what happened at Chappaquiddick remain unanswered, for Kennedy - who was expelled from Harvard for cheating in his exams - has given contradictory explanations to some questions and refused to answer others.

Yet this is the man Labour intends to award the same honour as has previously been given to true American 'greats' such as Ronald Reagan, 'Stormin' ' Norman Schwarzkopf, Colin Powell, Caspar Weinberger, Dwight Eisenhower, Douglas MacArthur, George Patton and several other equally distinguished military, diplomatic and religious figures.

Without the tragedy of his brothers' assassinations, and the magic of his family name, Ted Kennedy would be nothing.

'If your name was simply Edward Moore instead of Edward Moore Kennedy,' one Democratic rival for his Senate seat told him, 'your candidacy would be a joke.'

Now, Labour, which is supposed to abhor nepotism, is about to reward the most egregious example of nepotism in America today. That Kennedy is suffering from a brain tumour is very sad, but surely it is no reason to honour him.

Labour argues that Ted Kennedy aided, and was a great supporter of, the Northern Irish peace process and, therefore, deserves this honour - but, once again, let us look at his record.

It is true that he lobbied President Clinton hard in 1996 to award Gerry Adams an American visa (Adams promptly used his subsequent U.S. visit to raise money for Sinn Fein) and later to get him invited to the White House. But it is quite wrong to suggest, as the American historian Arthur Schlesinger does, that these initiatives 'led to the IRA ceasefire and the Good Friday accords'.

These, in fact, only came about as a result of the IRA's political and military leadership recognising that they had been defeated on the ground by 1996-98. All that these American invitations afforded Adams, apart from flattering his ego, was to lend Sinn Fein an utterly spurious respectability on the world stage.

Only after 9/11 - when Americans discovered on their own soil how loathsome terrorism truly is, and how far from a noble romantic struggle - did Kennedy cynically distance himself from Adams and fellow Sinn Fein stalwart Martin McGuinness, refusing to meet them in 2005 after the IRA brutally murdered Robert McCartney in a Belfast bar in January that year.

This was not a point of principle so much as a political realignment. Anyone who has seen Ted Kennedy at work in politics - as I did when I was a Senatorial speechwriter 25 years ago - will recognise that he is a master of points of order, 'poison-pill amendments', tactical manoeuvres and deft political re-positionings.

It was this same self-interest and political nous that led Kennedy to support Barack Obama early on in his Presidency campaign, for which Obama has thanked him profusely.

Now, Gordon Brown wishes to ingratiate himself to the President by giving a knighthood to Obama's political ally, using the Northern Ireland peace process as the excuse even though it is utterly inappropriate.

READERS' COMMENTS

This knighthood is nothing less than a disgrace to the honours system.

What next? Gerry Adams a sainthood.And not being biased, Mad Dog Adair given the freedom of Dublin.


- DaveH, Durham City
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No more obscene than Obama returning the bust Of our greatest politician Winston Churchill,probably because he could never compete with him in way


- jacky Pache, colorado, usa
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Why would the UK diminish the value of knighthood by honoring such an undeserving individual?

What a disgrace.


- Roy E, Minnesota, USA
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Being an American of primarily English ancestry, I am disgusted that Ted Kennedy will receive an honorary knighthood.

Many of the oldest members of my family fought in two world wars, at least in part to help our British allies. Several shed their blood and two lost their lives. They deserve knighthoods far more than this buffoon.


- Jim Ezell, Tuscaloosa, Alabama USA

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Great article and the truth about all that was rotten in the Washington establishment during the terrorism in Northern Ireland. The Kennedy's in many ways typify the gangsterism that still runs politics in the USA where greed and corruption underwrite the public face of the Nation. For this sorry British administration to betray all the brave military and Royal Ulster Constabulary who faced down the sordid and cowardly attacks by the IRA is unpardonable. They should be ashamed but by their own standards this is an unsurprising episode in their own record of caving in to domestic terror and sucking up to the US establishment for their own personal advancement.

- graham casey, perth, australia
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How true! How true! Well exposed by the author. Ted Kennedy does not have enough nous to realise that had it not been for the 16th century Reformation, most of the western world would still be under the oppressive hand of the Church of Rome. When those chains and yoke were removed Protestantism gifted the world with one of the finest Parliamentary systems the world has ever seen, the Westminster (British). Protestant constitutions have established most of the new world's youngest countries, Australia, USA, Canada, New Zealand, and a host of others, and allowed them to govern as democratic nations.

Sadly, Kennedy and other Socialist Democrats throughout the world have been trying their damnest to subvert those very constitutions, which have brought so much prosperity, progress and civilisation to the modern world. Those were the days which gave the Kennedy Clan and many others the opportunity to forge out new futures. Too bad they have forgotten the joy those freedoms have delivered.

- Bill Fraser, Australia

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talloola

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I am not contradicting anything written above, because I don't have the background and information to do so, BUT there will be someone who has
all of the 'good' that ted kennedy has done throughout his life, and 'that' also
should be written for us to read.
Also, the horrid things that the english did to the irish should be written to
offset what is written above, this is a one sided story, and of course, as in
any trashing of others, there is always 'the other side'.

I had an english mother and an irish father, so I was somewhat caught in the middle, and of course that marriage was a disaster, I wonder why.:-?
 

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Why Mass. keeps him around who knows. If it was you or I who did what he did, we would have served jail time for leaving the scean of a accident, and thrown out of school for the cheating. What good has he done to outweigh his past. Being Irish has nothing to do with it. "In a late-1980s media profile, Kennedy was succinctly described as someone who "grew to manhood without learning to be an adult". He is rumored to have had several affairs while married to his first wife, and had often been seen in public while thoroughly tanked and/or behaving obnoxiously. In 1987 he was caught in flagrante delicto with an unidentified woman on the floor of a restaurant." Yet he was Knighted, but a Knight without honor.
Ted Kennedy
 

Colpy

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Talloola: Exactly what "good" did Ted Kennedy do?

He is guilty of criminal negligence causing death, drunk driving, and God knows what else. He was a cocaine-snorting, womanizing, corrupt piece of turd that managed to make a career out of two murdered brothers.

I shall miss him not.

Although he should be complimented on the courage with which he seems to be facing his impending doom.....
 

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Now the issues of pre-WW II should come up. Ted's father Joseph was the US Ambassador to Great Britain until he was found out to be a Nazi sympathizer. Then FDR recalled Joe quickly to the protection of the US. I imagine another reason was to insure the flow of Scottish Whiskey to the US continued too.
 

talloola

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Talloola: Exactly what "good" did Ted Kennedy do?

He is guilty of criminal negligence causing death, drunk driving, and God knows what else. He was a cocaine-snorting, womanizing, corrupt piece of turd that managed to make a career out of two murdered brothers.

I shall miss him not.

Although he should be complimented on the courage with which he seems to be facing his impending doom.....

That is the question I asked in my reply, I suppose we need to hear from a
u.s. citizen who follows all of the every day, month by month issues from
the senate, to the people, (and is neither a democrat or a republican).I was not suggesting anything in particular that
he has done for the good, I just don't like to hear a one sided trashing without
hearing the other side.
Everything we know about him were the front page headlines and the gossip,
which also has two sides.
John Kennedy was also a womanizing president, but all seem to forgive him,
as his contribution as president was positive, and the people flocked to him.
The people have voted Ted Kennedy back into the senate many times, with
a big majority, so that says something to me about his contributions as a
senator, to the people.
I know the story of mary joe kopechne situation, very sickening indeed, and
yes, he did get off lightly, as any person in his position would have, including
all of our politicians and police.
You are a republican(type), so you put out the worst description of him you can, so
that is somewhat true I suppose, but very biased, as he is a democrat.
I have heard many good things said about his contribution as a senator,
and I would like to know more of that side of him.
 

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That is the question I asked in my reply, I suppose we need to hear from a
u.s. citizen who follows all of the every day, month by month issues from
the senate, to the people, (and is neither a democrat or a republican).I was not suggesting anything in particular that
he has done for the good, I just don't like to hear a one sided trashing without
hearing the other side.
Everything we know about him were the front page headlines and the gossip,
which also has two sides.
John Kennedy was also a womanizing president, but all seem to forgive him,
as his contribution as president was positive, and the people flocked to him.
The people have voted Ted Kennedy back into the senate many times, with
a big majority, so that says something to me about his contributions as a
senator, to the people.
I know the story of mary joe kopechne situation, very sickening indeed, and
yes, he did get off lightly, as any person in his position would have, including
all of our politicians and police.
You are a republican(type), so you put out the worst description of him you can, so
that is somewhat true I suppose, but very biased, as he is a democrat.
I have heard many good things said about his contribution as a senator,
and I would like to know more of that side of him.

Ted Kennedy is definitely not one of my favourite people, at least two people died prematurely due to his selfishness. But he comes by it honestly, his old man Joseph P. Kennedy was a real piece of work- had his own daughter lobotomized and warehoused out of sight so as not to disgrace the family (she was mentally deficient), not to mention some of the ways he made his money.
 

Colpy

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Ted Kennedy is definitely not one of my favourite people, at least two people died prematurely due to his selfishness. But he comes by it honestly, his old man Joseph P. Kennedy was a real piece of work- had his own daughter lobotomized and warehoused out of sight so as not to disgrace the family (she was mentally deficient), not to mention some of the ways he made his money.

Not to mention Joe was a Nazi sympathizer......
 

gopher

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As for the notion that Ted is a murderer, he only has another 999,999 before he attains the same amount of victims as Bush whose grandfather supported Hitler and the Nazis. Just in case the British have forgotten, Kennedy's oldest brother lost his life in WW II and his other brother Jack was nearly killed in the Pacific. And while Kennedy is against the war on Iraq, Bush caused it and this led to the needless death of British soldiers and of Margaret Hassan.
 

talloola

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Ted Kennedy is definitely not one of my favourite people, at least two people died prematurely due to his selfishness. But he comes by it honestly, his old man Joseph P. Kennedy was a real piece of work- had his own daughter lobotomized and warehoused out of sight so as not to disgrace the family (she was mentally deficient), not to mention some of the ways he made his money.
They, (husband and wife) had that operation performed on their daughter at the suggestion of the doctor, who, at that time convinced them that it
would give her a better life, not a cure, but settle her down a bit, so she
wasn't so active mentally and in such a frenzy much of the time, it didn't work out very well. He didn't have it done out of selfish needs for
himself, they actually thought it would help her, in that time, not enough was
known about labotomys.