China joins the lunar landing club
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I find alot of Chinese Nationals are very defensive and proud of the space program.
Its kind of like how a 16 year old kid is a big fan of his first car, even if its a piece of garbage and everyone else either already has cars or has had them, and decided to just sell it and take the bus, they are still so proud and defensive.
In 20 years China will lament on all the money it spend on the space program and relegate it to minor oddity.
Which is a shame, there is such hope in a young persons eyes when they talk about space, its not till later that they realise its just not gonna happen.
Its kind of like how a 16 year old kid is a big fan of his first car, even if its a piece of garbage and everyone else either already has cars or has had them, and decided to just sell it and take the bus, they are still so proud and defensive.
In 20 years China will lament on all the money it spend on the space program and relegate it to minor oddity.
Which is a shame, there is such hope in a young persons eyes when they talk about space, its not till later that they realise its just not gonna happen.
"...How exactly does a country with a Space Program get the label "Developing Nation"? ..."
Space program and a desperately poor population.... Prestige? Really sucks to have to keep up with the Jones's eh? Appearances matter most to they with skeletons in their closets.
Might be you're not bright enough to notice but China (the nation) was being congratulated.
China (the troll) not so....
Space program and a desperately poor population.... Prestige? Really sucks to have to keep up with the Jones's eh? Appearances matter most to they with skeletons in their closets.
Might be you're not bright enough to notice but China (the nation) was being congratulated.
China (the troll) not so....
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OTHER NAMES:
Alouette-A 00424
LAUNCH DATE/TIME:
1962-09-29 at 06:05:00 UTC
ON-ORBIT DRY MASS:
145.70 kg
DISCIPLINES:
Astronomy; Solar Physics; Space Physics
DESCRIPTION:
Alouette 1 was a small ionospheric observatory instrumented with an ionospheric sounder, a VLF receiver, an energetic particle detector, and a cosmic noise experiment. Extended from the satellite shell were two dipole antennas (45.7- and 22.8-m long, respectively) which were shared by three of the experiments on the spacecraft. The satellite was spin-stabilized at about 1.4 rpm after antenna extension. After about 500 days, the spin slowed more than had been expected, to about 0.6 rpm when satellite spin-stabilization failed. It is believed that the satellite gradually progressed toward a gravity gradient stabilization with the longer antenna pointing earthward. Attitude information was deduced only from a single magnetometer and temperature measurements on the upper and lower heat shields. (Attitude determination could have been in error by as much as 10 deg.) There was no tape recorder, so data were available only from the vicinity of telemetry stations. Telemetry stations were located to provide primary data coverage near the 80 deg W meridian and in areas near Hawaii, Singapore, Australia, Europe, and Central Africa. Initially, data were recorded for about 6 h per day. In September 1972, spacecraft operations were terminated.
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Alouette, Canada's first satellite
Category:Science & TechType:canadian first
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Date:29 9, 1962Tags:space, satellite
Canada's first satellite was called Alouette. When Canada launched Alouette on September 29, 1962, Canada became the third country in the world to have a satellite in orbit, after the Soviet Union and the United States.
Originally, Alouette was going to be an instrument package that would ride on an American satellite. At the suggestion of Dr. John Chapman from the Defence Research Telecommunications Establishment, however, Alouette became a full-blown Canadian satellite.
Alouette performed much better than everyone expected. Its intended lifespan was one year, but Alouette sent down information about the ionosphere for ten full years. Alouette produced over one million images of the top side of the ionosphere. The satellite was so successful that it even won an award. On January 22, 1987, the Engineering Centennial Board Inc. recognized Alouette as one of the ten most outstanding achievements of Canadian engineering over the last one hundred years.
Alouette might look simple by modern standards, but it brought Canada respect and attention from the international space community. It also set the stage for many other Canadian achievements in space. Even today, satellites are the central project of the Canadian space industry.
Other major Canadian space achievements are plentiful the lunar land or LEM was built by Canadians under contract with NASA after they were sacked from Avro after the Arrow project was dropped.
petros
.The Alouette Satellite: A great Canadian achievement.
Thanks petros ,one learns everyday .
.The Alouette Satellite: A great Canadian achievement.Thanks petros ,one learns everyday .
No ... it's because you (meaning China, the troll) are a big enough jerk without being pumped up even more. It must be a sad life for you being so in tune for negatives that you can't detect a positive when it is said in your direction. Your poor wife must walk on eggshells whenever you are near....
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I am wondering about the photo China. Even the Moon landings by the States have come under a lot of scrutiny. For one that looks like a piece of fire works going off as it hit the surface. But, with no atmosphere there should be no sparks.
Here is a link to the one of the many sites that go through the reasons people thinks the Apollo missions were faked and why. I'll reprint the time frame portion here.
A TIME AND MOTION STUDY
For more than three years I have been collecting and analyzing nearly all the significant photos from the Apollo missions. These official photos are readily available on multiple NASA websites for downloading. Recently I noticed they were taking up many gigabytes of memory on my computer's external hard drive, so I began organizing them and deleting duplications. I did a rough estimate of the number of Apollo photos, and was amazed that I had thousands!
I visited several official NASA websites to find HOW MANY PHOTOS WERE TAKEN on the surface of the Moon. Amazingly, NASA AVOIDS THIS SUBJECT almost entirely. Two days of searching documents and text were fruitless. But Lunar Surface Journal, one of the sites, lists every photo with its file number. So I undertook to make an actual count of every photo taken by astronauts DURING EXTRA-VEHICULAR ACTIVITY (EVA), the time spent on the surface out of the LEM.
Here is my actual count of EVA photos of the six missions:
Apollo 11........... 121
Apollo 12........... 504
Apollo 14........... 374
Apollo 15..........1021
Apollo 16..........1765
Apollo 17..........1986
So 12 astronauts while on the Moon's surface took a TOTAL of 5771 exposures.
That seemed excessively large to me, considering that their TIME on the lunar surface was limited, and the astronauts had MANY OTHER TASKS OTHER THAN PHOTOGRAPHY. So I returned to the Lunar Surface Journal to find how much TIME was available to do all the scientific tasks AS WELL AS PHOTOGRAPHY. Unlike the number of photos, this information is readily available:
Apollo 11........1 EVA .....2 hours, 31 minutes......(151 minutes)
Apollo 12........2 EVAs.....7 hours, 50 minutes......(470 minutes)
Apollo 14........2 EVAs.....9 hours, 25 minutes......(565 minutes)
Apollo 15........3 EVAs...18 hours, 30 minutes....(1110 minutes)
Apollo 16........3 EVAs...20 hours, 14 minutes....(1214 minutes)
Apollo 17........3 EVAs...22 hours, 04 minutes....(1324 minutes)
Total minutes on the Moon amounted to 4834 minutes.
Total number of photographs taken was 5771 photos.
Hmmmmm. That amounts to 1.19 photos taken EVERY MINUTE of time on the Moon, REGARDLESS OF OTHER ACTIVITIES. (That requires the taking of ONE PHOTO EVERY 50 SECONDS!) Let's look at those other activities to see how much time should be deducted from available photo time:
Apollo 11..........Inspect LEM for damage, deploy flag, unpack and deploy radio and television equipment, operate the TV camera (360 degree pan), establish contact with Earth (including ceremonial talk with President Nixon), unpack and deploy numerous experiment packages, find/document/collect 47.7 pounds of lunar rock samples, walk to various locations, conclude experiments, return to LEM.
Apollo 12..........Inspect LEM for damage, deploy flag, unpack and deploy radio and television equipment (spend time trying to fix faulty TV camera), establish contact with Earth, unpack and deploy numerous experiment packages, walk to various locations, inspect the unmanned Surveyor 3 which had landed on the Moon in April 1967 and retrieve Surveyor parts. Deploy ALSEP package. Find/document/collect 75.7 pounds of rocks, conclude experiments, return to LEM.
Apollo 14..........Inspect LEM for damage, deploy flag, unpack and deploy radio and television equipment and establish contact with Earth, unpack and assemble hand cart to transport rocks, unpack and deploy numerous experiment packages, walk to various locations. Find/document/collect 94.4 pounds of rocks, conclude experiments, return to LEM.
Apollo 15..........Inspect LEM for damage, deploy flag, unpack and deploy radio and television equipment and establish contact with Earth, unpack/assemble/equip and test the LRV electric-powered 4-wheel drive car and drive it 17 miles, unpack and deploy numerous experiment packages (double the scientific payload of first three missions). Find/document/collect 169 pounds of rocks, conclude experiments, return to LEM. (The LRV travels only 8 mph*.)
Apollo 16..........Inspect LEM for damage, deploy flag, unpack and deploy radio and television equipment and establish contact with Earth, unpack/assemble/equip and test the LRV electric-powered 4-wheel drive car and drive it 16 miles, unpack and deploy numerous experiment packages (double the scientific payload of first three missions, including new ultraviolet camera, operate the UV camera). Find/document/collect 208.3 pounds of rocks, conclude experiments, return to LEM. (The LRV travels only 8 mph*.)
Apollo 17..........Inspect LEM for damage, deploy flag, unpack and deploy radio and television equipment and establish contact with Earth, unpack/assemble/equip and test the LRV electric-powered 4-wheel drive car and drive it 30.5 miles, unpack and deploy numerous experiment packages. Find/document/collect 243.1 pounds of rocks, conclude experiments, return to LEM. (The LRV travels only 8 mph*.)
Let's arbitrarily calculate a MINIMUM time for these tasks and subtract from available photo time:
Apollo 11....subtract 2 hours (120 minutes), leaving 031 minutes for taking photos
Apollo 12....subtract 4 hours (240 minutes), leaving 230 minutes for taking photos
Apollo 14....subtract 3 hours (180 minutes), leaving 385 minutes for taking photos
Apollo 15....subtract 6 hours (360 minutes), leaving 750 minutes for taking photos
Apollo 16....subtract 6 hours (360 minutes), leaving 854 minutes for taking photos
Apollo 17....subtract 8 hours (480 minutes), leaving 844 minutes for taking photos
So do the math:
Apollo 11.......121 photos in 031 minutes............3.90 photos per minute
Apollo 12.......504 photos in 230 minutes............2.19 photos per minute
Apollo 14.......374 photos in 385 minutes............0.97 photos per minute
Apollo 15.....1021 photos in 750 minutes............1.36 photos per minute
Apollo 16.....1765 photos in 854 minutes ...........2.06 photos per minute
Apollo 17.....1986 photos in 844 minutes ...........2.35 photos per minute
Or, to put it more simply:
Apollo 11........one photo every 15 seconds
Apollo 12........one photo every 27 seconds
Apollo 14........one photo every 62 seconds
Apollo 15........one photo every 44 seconds
Apollo 16........one photo every 29 seconds
Apollo 17........one photo every 26 seconds
So you decide. Given all the facts, was it possible to take that many photos in so short a time?
Any professional photographer will tell you it cannot be done. Virtually every photo was a different scene or in a different place, requiring travel. As much as 30 miles travel was required to reach some of the photo sites. Extra care had to be taken shooting some stereo pairs and panoramas. Each picture was taken without a viewfinder, using manual camera settings, with no automatic metering, while wearing a bulky spacesuit and stiff clumsy gloves.
The agency wants the world to believe that 5771 photographs were taken in 4834 minutes! IF NOTHING BUT PHOTOGRAPHY HAD BEEN DONE, such a feat is clearly impossible...made even more so by all the documented activities of the astronauts. Imagine...1.19 photos every minute that men were on the Moon –- that's one picture every 50 SECONDS!
The secret NASA tried to hide has been discovered: The quantity of photos purporting to record the Apollo lunar EVAs could not have been taken on the Moon in such an impossible time frame. So why do these photos exist? How did these photos get made? Did ANY men go to the Moon? Or was it truly the greatest hoax ever?
© 2005 Jack White
Was The Apollo Moon Landing Fake?
Actually we supply some great minds to the program. There are many Universities that conduct experiments with NASA. There were companies working on the commercial spacecraft ventures, although they are owned by foriegn companies, they are doing the work here with our people.
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By Alexander Toldt
19:32, March 2nd 2009 1 vote
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China deliberately crashed a lunar probe into the moon on Sunday. The move was made with the purpose of obtaining lunar landing experience as the country is preparing to launch a rover vehicle by 2012.
The lunar probe - Chang'e I (named after a Chinese moon goddess) - was intentionally crashed after a 16-month journey that was the first step of China’s moon mission that will reach its main goal when the rover vehicle is placed on the moon in about three years from now. China plans to launch a second rover in 2017 to gather geological samples and take them back to Earth.
Chang'e I was launched into space in 2007 and spent 494 days out there before crashing. During that time it took stereo radar images of the moon’s surface.
The lunar satellite circled the Earth three times, then headed towards the moon and circled it twice before crashing into it. The images released by the Chinese government show that the lunar probe reduced speed about 45 minutes before the crash and breaking apart when it hit the ground.
The crash occurred at 4:13 p.m. Beijing time, the State Administration of Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense told the People’s Daily Online.
China became very ambitious and active in space. Last year it became the third nation on Earth to send a man into space. Despite the fact that it happened 35 years after the U.S.A. and Russia (U.S.S.R. back then) did it, it is still impressive. Now Beijing plans to send the first rover vehicle on the moon in 2012, another one in 2017 to collect geological samples for analysis, and a third possible manned rover by 2020.
China also plans to build its own space station. But first, China said it will send another module in space. Tiangong-I will be launched in space next year.
By Alexander Toldt
19:32, March 2nd 2009 1 vote
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The lunar probe - Chang'e I (named after a Chinese moon goddess) - was intentionally crashed after a 16-month journey that was the first step of China’s moon mission that will reach its main goal when the rover vehicle is placed on the moon in about three years from now. China plans to launch a second rover in 2017 to gather geological samples and take them back to Earth.
Chang'e I was launched into space in 2007 and spent 494 days out there before crashing. During that time it took stereo radar images of the moon’s surface.
The lunar satellite circled the Earth three times, then headed towards the moon and circled it twice before crashing into it. The images released by the Chinese government show that the lunar probe reduced speed about 45 minutes before the crash and breaking apart when it hit the ground.
The crash occurred at 4:13 p.m. Beijing time, the State Administration of Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense told the People’s Daily Online.
China became very ambitious and active in space. Last year it became the third nation on Earth to send a man into space. Despite the fact that it happened 35 years after the U.S.A. and Russia (U.S.S.R. back then) did it, it is still impressive. Now Beijing plans to send the first rover vehicle on the moon in 2012, another one in 2017 to collect geological samples for analysis, and a third possible manned rover by 2020.
China also plans to build its own space station. But first, China said it will send another module in space. Tiangong-I will be launched in space next year.
China will soon enough grow bored with the space race, once it gets really expensive and people get the "been there done that" approach. Same as America and Russia and Canada and Europe, hell, China the first time when it was run by communists (As in actual Maoists not just capitalists using the name "communist party")