The sad part is it's that small percentage of lousy cops who paint targets on the backs of all of them. My son had the right idea. He's a lot safer shunting railcars around Edmonton oil yards.
WTF is wrong with the police?
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I think a huge part of the problem is handing tasars and guns to kids that were raised on Grand Theft Auto and time outs.
mmmmm... some places that might be true but not in the majority of Canada, and as I said, in those places maybe gun toting cops is legitimate. I'd rather see special units to deal with the gangs however.
I think it's too easy to confuse Canada with the USA.
Besides, arming police in most places is pointless anyway because they really don't do much. They mostly hand out traffic fines and beat up Indians around where I live. They don't need guns for that.
[SIZE=+0]If they're not accountable in a twisted, bias, and broken investigative[/SIZE]
process then yes, I would agree with you....but Taser abuse is mearly
a symptom of the larger problem, as are beatings and such when you
know the system is slanted towards you ever being found guilty of
anything without many witness's and video that reaches Youtube
before it is seized. Someone other than the Police need to police the
Police.
Perhaps that is true where you live(I honestly don't know where that is), but in most places there can be a need for an armed police officer. The officer doesn't necessarily even need to draw his weapon. Having one may cause a person to decide not to rush at the officer, though. You have to admit, that society as a whole is getting more and more violent it seems every day.
I knew of a woman that was being beaten by her husband. She called the police a few times but finally they told her to get him drunk and throw him off a bridge into the Fraser because there was nothing they could do for her. WTF is that!?!
Yeah, my experience is that there is a huge problem.
Yeah, my experience is that there is a huge problem.
IMO, that is because of exactly what Karrie pointed out: it just seems so because of TV. I think the reality is that crime has been going down.
I was thinking that as well, even while I was writing the other post. It is a valid point. With the saturation of media today, there is a lot more reported than ever before.
Though I agree with you Shadowshiv, unfortunately the reverse is also true.
The law abiding citizens in our country being unarmed may indeed lead to
overconfidence in the "Bad Apple" Law Enforcement crowd (the us vs. them
crowd) to more readily rush and assault unarmed non-violent non-criminals
knowing that if a citizen defends himself/herself, they're going to get charged
with assaulting an Officer, etc...I've been on that end. Friends of mine have
also been on that end.
Pervious to my current occupation as a Compliance Officer & Safety Supervisor
in the Transportation Industry, I was a Third Party Collection Agent (that would
be a Repo-Man in layman's terms). I could tell you stories that could curl your
hair (assuming it's not already curly) with respect to Law Enforcement.
Nope...Just the son of an RCMP officer, Grand son of a Warrant officer and Ex Army Sgt. myself. I know how far the curve has dipped.
I know. There are some absolutely wretched excuses of humanity that wear badges. It is a shame that they are allowed to sully their profession like that. And my hair is as straight as can be, so I guess it would curl it quite a bit.;-)
No.
The Daily, Thursday, July 17, 2008. Crime statistics
24 hour news stations make it appear that violence is on the upswing. If you take out gang and drug violence (which the average Canadian has little chance of becoming involved in), the numbers are looking pretty good.
I always thought that out of all city police, Edmonton was at the top. Things change I guess. I am very pro police and I certainly have known some who have lost their jobs due to dishonesty. I guess things might have just been very different during our involvement. It's still difficult for me to see this. I know that many of you believe that they cover things up and naturally, some do but even a cover up has to come out eventually. My niece is a member and has just made the "Ride" and we are so very proud. She chose to become a member because she so respected her Uncle and had every reason to. He would have reported any wrong doing by another member in a heart beat. I would have expected no less from him.
Someone on this thread put in a bad report on me. I didn't think I had much to say at all. I don't think bad reports should be allowed unless they are warranted. There was a person on here who should have received one and I didn't do it. I'm not suggesting it was you lonewolf.
The first vidy with the woman on the bike was totally over the top. I would agree that the cop that hit her was not police material in the least. Further I would expect her to win hands down any civil case she brings forward.
The second, well, new toys take a while for people to figure out that they shouldn't be used as toys.
The guy who wouldn't pull over, I can see the cops point of view but maybe she was a little too quick to escalate things. The guy should have slowed and pulled over to the right when he saw the police approaching. There was no need for him to change lanes and then look for a place he wanted to pull over.
I've always went with pull the hell over right now and if the cop doesn't like the spot they will instruct you to move. Hasn't failed me yet.
Some cops suck, some are simply shell shocked and start to treat otherwise upstanding civilians like hardened criminals. I think maybe they need to time off to resensitize themselves a couple of times a year.
But like in any job, you find some people simply suck at it.
The second, well, new toys take a while for people to figure out that they shouldn't be used as toys.
The guy who wouldn't pull over, I can see the cops point of view but maybe she was a little too quick to escalate things. The guy should have slowed and pulled over to the right when he saw the police approaching. There was no need for him to change lanes and then look for a place he wanted to pull over.
I've always went with pull the hell over right now and if the cop doesn't like the spot they will instruct you to move. Hasn't failed me yet.
Some cops suck, some are simply shell shocked and start to treat otherwise upstanding civilians like hardened criminals. I think maybe they need to time off to resensitize themselves a couple of times a year.
But like in any job, you find some people simply suck at it.
that wasn't the insinuation. The insinuation was minorities were inherently unqualified.
Besides it's against the law
You've got to use moderation with that approach too. When I was a
young guy and out on the highway (I was speeding) in my '78 Magnum,
an RCMP was coming up behind me very quickly and turned on his lights.
I immediately pulled to the side and stopped. The RCMP car ended up
stopping on the shoulder several car-lengths in front of my car, and had to
back-up quite a ways to get reasonably close to my car. He didn't like
that much....Along with my speeding ticket, I got a lengthy explanation as
to why the RCMP stops behind a car during a traffic stop. 8O
He could have given that to you in one brief line: If he's getting out of his PC in front of you, you can kill him by ramming him between the two cars or simply pulling out and hitting him with your car. I know that it is acceptable to most police officers for a person to go a short distance to a place where it is safe to pull over but you do have to remember that laws from province to province vary.