Something of historic proportions is happening

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SOMETHING OF HISTORIC PROPORTIONS IS HAPPENING

by Tim Wood
2008 December 1

I am a student of history. Professionally. I have written 15 books in six languages, and have studied history all my life. I think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is just a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten - fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two years. We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learn just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has “loaned” two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money, yours and mine. And that is three times the 700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of “we the people,” who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not, they now control us.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why? We have intentionally dumb down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents of why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, and school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (now violently in California over proposition 8 that is so controversial that it wants marriage to remain between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?). We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing un-elected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government, our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and know precisely what I am talking about) the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth. It is potentially 1929 x ten.

And we are at war with an enemy we cannot name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so. And now we have elected a man no one knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla, Alaska. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, religion and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course the media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin’s pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe is more important.)

Mr. Obama’s winning platform can be boiled down to one word: change. Why? I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now. This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again. And that is only the beginning to a world social government.

I thought I would never be able to experience what the ordinary, moral German felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the messiah was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they did know was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory and promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his “brown shirts” would bully them into submission. And then, he was duly elected to office, a full-throttled economic crisis at hand [the Great Depression]. Slowly but surely he seized the controls of government power, department-by-department, person-by-person, bureaucracy-by-bureaucracy. The kids joined a Youth Movement in his name, where they were taught what to think. How did he get the people on his side? He did it promising jobs to the jobless, money to the indigent, and goodies for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe, and across the world.

He did it with a compliant media; did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and ‘CHANGE’. And the people surely got what they voted for. (Look it up if you think that I am exaggerating.) Read your history books. Many people objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and made fun of. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. Don’t forget that Germany was the most educated, cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And in less than six years, a shorter time span than just two terms of a U. S. presidency, it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors, all with the best of intentions of course. The road to Hell is always paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another drink, and ignoring what is transpiring around me.

Some people scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. Perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe and why I believe it. I pray I am wrong. Pray with me for the truth, because the truth will set us free.

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Interesting piece.

I tend to agree with him except he pulls an explanation from an historical precedence that doesn't seem to fit. He is too conspiracy minded, IMO, since most events like he describes are naturally born out of human social structures and there is little need for a diabolical architect. A society that thinks greed is good has little recourse except to follow the path the USA has but I do agree with him that something big has happened: I think we are witnessing the absolute final end of the British empire.

Any other thoughts?
 

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Pretty easy to sum up:

'I don't like Obama, and I'm going to collect up a bunch of fearmonger statements, bundle them all together, and try to scare you.'

And we're now down to stage 4 of the Obama saga.

Stage 1 - devout muslim with hidden agenda
Stage 2 - follower of radical crazy preacher in Chicago, with hidden agenda
Stage 3 - devout Christian with hidden agenda
Stage 4 - a Hitler for the 21st century, with a hidden agenda.

This gets funnier every day.
The only purpose that I see to this diatribe, is that various people who should know better are trying to whip the crazies into enough of a frenzy of fear, that one or more of them will try to assassinate Obama.

Keep up the good work, though, it's entertaining.
 

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Oh but he's a student of history and professionally he has written 15 books in six languages, and has studied history all his life........ none of us should ever question someone like that.

They have to be perfect in their views..... I mean, 15 books, like wow?

Maybe someone's just a little jellous that they didn't get the job and still works at MacDonald's because all his books suck. Then again, maybe those 15 books are all the same books doubled up due to being in different languages, so he spins it like he's written 15 books, when actually it could have only be like 4 or 5.

*Snickers*

Yeah, that's right, I'm making fun of his successes and I'm scum.... get over it.
 

karrie

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I tend to agree with him except he pulls an explanation from an historical precedence that doesn't seem to fit. He is too conspiracy minded, IMO, since most events like he describes are naturally born out of human social structures and there is little need for a diabolical architect. A society that thinks greed is good has little recourse except to follow the path the USA has but I do agree with him that something big has happened: I think we are witnessing the absolute final end of the British empire.

Any other thoughts?

Well, that splits my response into two categories... one having to do with the article you posted, and one to do with your comment.

As for your article. While I get what he's saying about a compliant media putting the population at risk of abuse, he's essentially claiming some precognitive ability, or some depth of perception beyond all others, and I find that laughable. Obama hasn't DONE anything yet. While cautioning people to not treat him as a sacred cow might be in order, pretending he's Hitler reincarnate seems, well, pouty and childish.

As for your statement about what IS happening historically, I agree, but I don't think the end of the British Empire has diddly to do with US politics. I think it's just a natural result of the formation of the EU. You could attribute the formation of the EU to an attempt to counter the sheer size and amount of resources of the US, but, not really directly to US politics. If that makes sense before my first cup of coffee has run into me.
 

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Well one thing that I have not seen is so many people from both sides getting behind a President and looking to him to help us out of this mess. I could not stand Clinton and made no effort to hide it. I think you will always have diehards from both parties that will want a President to fail who doesn't hail from the same party as them.

I think this time it is different not because it is Obama but because of what he has inherited and he needs to fix it for ALL of our sakes.

Now I may zing him from time to time just to get back at the haters who relished in GW's failure even though it effected them but I am rooting for him.
 

Said1

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Right wing nonsense.

Yes, he should be concerned about the supposed fiduciaries of their hard earned money and schools etc but I'm just wondering who he supported 8 years prior?

The British Empire died with the Raj and the Eu is a far cry from it's founders intent. Unless they wanted a bigger, more complicated supranational bureaucracy and not a simple European trading bloc.
 

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I think TenPenny nailed it. You can usually be pretty sure that when unfavourable comparisons to the Nazis start coming up, the argument's bankrupt.


That implies there are favourable comparisons to Nazis which do support the argument. There is absolutly nothing wrong with useing a benchmark like Nazis anymore than there would be to associate cheddar with cheeze.
I would hesitate now to use a persons religious affiliation to condemn the theroy, it is cause for suspicion but, they are not all fanatics a full twenty percent retain unimpaired judgement. I think he's describing a fairly accurate general picture. Empires fall to dust, Gold never dies, follow the money.
 

darkbeaver

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What kind of screwball logic is that? It implies nothing of the sort. Logical propositions don't generally convert into their obverse and remain true, or even sensible.

General logical proposition or not the implication is there. You have poor forensic sence.
If there were no favourable comparisons why qualify with the "un". So it's clear to me that in your mind there may be favourable comparisons. It is generally accepted that any comparison to Nazis is a negative thing.
 

Scott Free

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OK, thanks everyone.

I realize the short comings of the author and understand the desire to shoot the messenger. I don't like his rhetoric, hyperbole and general panicked hysteria anymore than anyone else but his basic premise might be sound: big changes are coming. As I said in my OP I don't think they are coming for the reasons he thinks but the forces of change are definitely there IMO. Republics seem prone to fascism but that fascism requires just the right mix of climate and personality I think.
 

darkbeaver

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OK, thanks everyone.

I realize the short comings of the author and understand the desire to shoot the messenger. I don't like his rhetoric, hyperbole and general panicked hysteria anymore than anyone else but his basic premise might be sound.

Sure something of historic proportions is happening, but it never really stops, this bozo is concerned only with the health and wellbeing of Americans and he's only aware of history and what's happening now from that perspective I think. What he sees as a coming disaster for America I see as oportunity for the rest of the world and so does the rest of the world.
 

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Sure something of historic proportions is happening, but it never really stops, this bozo is concerned only with the health and wellbeing of Americans and he's only aware of history and what's happening now from that perspective I think. What he sees as a coming disaster for America I see as oportunity for the rest of the world and so does the rest of the world.

I like that! So the "big thing" is the liberation of the world from American tyranny! I think you nailed it DB thank you. There was just something in the piece I couldn't quite get my finger on. It really is the end of the British empire then - good!
 

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Yes, I agree the Beave has a useful insight there Scott, but I'm having some difficulty understanding what the old British Empire has to do with this. It fell a long time ago. Psychologically, at least in the minds of the colonized, I think the British Empire effectively fell when the Japanese captured Singapore in WW2, though it took several decades more for that insight to penetrate the political and administrative minds in the Colonial Office. That was the first time a European imperial power with global reach was decisively and significantly defeated by a non-European power. WW2 was the end of Britain as a global superpower, and its replacement by the United States. That's oversimplified, but I think it's essentially correct.

More generally, I'd be inclined to argue that something of historic proportions is *always* happening, but it usually becomes clear only in hindsight.
 

darkbeaver

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I like that! So the "big thing" is the liberation of the world from American tyranny! I think you nailed it DB thank you. There was just something in the piece I couldn't quite get my finger on. It really is the end of the British empire then - good!

Amerocentric thinking is clogging his reason, there is a strong tendency at large to complete inability to envision a supporting role for America as opposed to unilateral leadership accross the board. It can be argued that there never was a British Empire but that there has always been a Banking Empire once called the British Empire.
That "big thing" is the fear of the herd only, and I know you must know it's always been there and adjusted to suit the times just as it is in the final tuning stages right now for the last big show. The wealthy and powerfull know better what represents the axis of emperial mobility. at least that's the way I see it