Anne Coulter on "The View"

[bobnoorduyn]

Didn't Obama make the point last year that young men have a responsibility to the children they've fathered....and it seems to me that he did so in a way that, if he were white, he would have been called racist.

I heard that he said that, don't know about the racist part though because I didn't actually hear him.

But that is only half of it, both parties have an equal responsibility. If neither side can accept the responsibility then they must each take precautions to prevent it. These are things pounded into me and my generation, you make a child boy, you take responsibility, that was warning enough to avoid accidents.

 

[Tyr]

She actually says, in her book.... "Victim of a crime? Thank a single mother."

If that isn't accusing, I don't really know what is.

Coulter tends to get hysterical about her views, because they help sell her books. It's questionable that she even believes them, but "if you pump up the volume" her cash register mentality gets "pumped" as well.

People who actually "buy" her books tend to be the same people who have lifetime subscriptions to "The National Enquirer"

 

[karrie]

Coulter tends to get hysterical about her views, because they help sell her books. It's questionable that she even believes them, but "if you pump up the volume" her cash register mentality gets "pumped" as well.

People who actually "buy" her books tend to be the same people who have lifetime subscriptions to "The National Enquirer"

I personally believe she is best ignored like any forum troll would be. But, if people want to get to the heart of what she's saying, yeah, she takes the inflammatory path every time. She doesn't attack the real social problem, she attacks the victims of the social problem. Because she knows that the instant you start attacking the victims who are struggling to do the best they can, people will get angry. And anger is her schtick, her act, her formula for book sales. I hope to hell she doesn't believe half of what she says. But, if she believes even half, she's still on my 'do not invite to dinner' list.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

Coulter tends to get hysterical about her views, because they help sell her books. It's questionable that she even believes them, but "if you pump up the volume" her cash register mentality gets "pumped" as well.

It sure works for Michael Moore

 

[Tyr]

It sure works for Michael Moore

...and Bill O'reilly, Laura Imgrahm, Rush Limbaugh, ets, etc....

 

[Twila]

people could criticize that instead of calling her a crack w h o r e, among other things.

Nobody called her a crack w h o r e.

 

[Twila]

I remember seeing Anne on The Fifth Estate arguing with Bob Mckeown that there's no reason why Canada shouldn't help the US invade Iraq, because after all we went with them into Vietnam...:lol::lol:

CBC: The Fifth Estate - Sticks and Stones

She was sooo sure too. It was like she couldn't believe she got her facts wrong. That was priceless...and not the first time either or the last time.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

...and Bill O'reilly, Laura Imgrahm, Rush Limbaugh, ets, etc....

All these folks, and that includes left and right, are on the extreme fringes, at least with their rhetoric. Controversy sells copy, put in a few grains of truth and it's believable. Problem is too many believe the leftards while villifying the right even while both sides are somewhat suspect.

 

[Tonington]

As mentioned, the research that is based upon is more than sketchy. Its been awhile since I saw that claim splashed around, but among issues of population size, and testing methods was the issue of ascertaining causalty.

even if the numbers are true, the question is "did being raised by a single mother cause one to be a criminal" , or did an underlying reason cause you to be both raised by a single mother and become a criminal, in which case both are symptoms of another issue.

If I have a fever and an upset stomach, its not enough to say "because most people with a fever have an upset stomach, its only logical that a fever causes an upset stomach", when the reality is, the person has a virus so they end up with both a fever and an upset stomach.

I'd also add the all important rule for using statistics. You can only infer from the statistics what the data collected reveals to answer the specified question(s). She takes her so called facts and twists them to something they were never intended.

 

[Cannuck]

She actually says, in her book.... "Victim of a crime? Thank a single mother."

If that isn't accusing, I don't really know what is.

I haven't read the book but if that is the case, it is really no different than blaming deadbeat dads. The point I made still stands though. I see far more criticism of Anne's personality then I do what she says. It almost makes me want to go and read one of her books. Perhaps I should have a lie-down til the feeling goes away.

 

[Toro]

What I can't believe is how many guys actually watch "The View". It reminds me too much of the torture I endured as a young'n, stuck sitting at the dinner table listening to my mother and all my aunts natter on and on while having to finish my veggies after all the men left to go smoke. :tard:

The View is apparently popular with gay men.

 

[Cannuck]

She doesn't attack the real social problem, she attacks the victims of the social problem. Because she knows that the instant you start attacking the victims who are struggling to do the best they can, people will get angry.

That's not what I got out of the youtube vid. I don't think she was blaming single mothers. She seems to be attacking the view that single motherhood is somehow socially equal to two parent homes and that there is no negatives to that particular set-up. If that is, in fact the case, then I would agree with her. It is better to have two parent households.

 

[Zzarchov]

That's not what I got out of the youtube vid. I don't think she was blaming single mothers. She seems to be attacking the view that single motherhood is somehow socially equal to two parent homes and that there is no negatives to that particular set-up. If that is, in fact the case, then I would agree with her. It is better to have two parent households.

Its better to have two LOVING parents. two parents who hate each other is less than 1 parent.

 

[Cannuck]

Its better to have two LOVING parents.

Of course it is. It's best to have two loving parents with four loving grandparents and lots of loving aunts and uncles.

The point I get from Anne is that we seem to be accepting a single mother as equal to two parents. It is not. (BTW - a child could very easily have one unloving parent as well)

 

[Tonington]

The point I get from Anne is that we seem to be accepting a single mother as equal to two parents. It is not. (BTW - a child could very easily have one unloving parent as well)

I get that Anne is saying that, but I don't get that people believe that to be true. Pretty much everyone I know acknowledges the difficulty facing single parents. Admiring them when they do a good job isn't the same as equating them to two parents.

 

[Cannuck]

I get that Anne is saying that, but I don't get that people believe that to be true.

I do. It is more and more acceptable for people to freely choose to be a single parent. They are freely choosing to give their child less. It is unfortunate.

 

[karrie]

I do. It is more and more acceptable for people to freely choose to be a single parent. They are freely choosing to give their child less. It is unfortunate.

I don't know any single parent who has freely chosen to be a single parent. Most have had it foisted on them when the other walks out and abandons them.

It will never cease to amaze me that some have no qualms about criticizing them for someone else's actions.

 

[Cannuck]

I don't know any single parent who has freely chosen to be a single parent.

I know two personally. Hollywood, the favorite whipping boy of the conservatives, is full of them. Just today, there was the Rachida Dati story. I'm not saying that it is the norm. I'm saying it is becoming more and more acceptable to choose this option. It places the wants and needs of the child on the back burner. That is unfortunate.

 

[karrie]

I know two personally. Hollywood, the favorite whipping boy of the conservatives, is full of them. Just today, there was the Rachida Dati story. I'm not saying that it is the norm. I'm saying it is becoming more and more acceptable to choose this option. It places the wants and needs of the child on the back burner. That is unfortunate.

I'll grant you that Cannuck, but, Coulter doesn't attack those women when she states crime stats and tells you to thank a single mom if you've been victimized. She's attacking the disadvantaged single mom, the one who hasn't freely and easily chosen her lot in life. She's blatantly overlooking the dad who CHOSE to ran, and instead focusing her vitriol on the mom who had to make the best of what she was handed.

 

[Said1]

Given her 'work' history, I'm kind of surpised she actually believes a lot of what she says. On the other hand, lawyers are nortorious for defending positions they don't support in order to win. I've worked with some of the best in Canada, enough to make you ill, permentantly.