I don't care to be on any jury in the first place.
Oh so you get to pick and choose at your own will who can and can not use them, based on your own laws and rules you guys made up yourselves for your own country....... to then apply them in a forign country where you technically have no jurisdiction in the first place..... why? Because it's not fair that those you wish to fight are not supposed to fight back?
And him (may or may not be) laying out mines... once again, doesn't matter, because once again..... that would classify him as a child soldier..... which once again, you completely ignored and avoided.
Which means he is being held in Cuba under illegal reasongs and actions..... oh yeah, that's right, Bush invented up a new classification of someone you might stumble apon on the battlefield..... what is it again? Enemy Non-Combatant? Enemy Combatant? :roll:
He either didn't throw the grenade and thereby innocent of the charges and thus should charge your soldier's sorry asses for shooting him twice in the back and sue your government for what they put him through..... Or he's guilty of tossing the grenade and perhaps being a Terr'ist..... and thus, classified once again as a child soldier and have the proper treatments for such a case.
And sue your asses.
No, it would look like you are tinkering with Commodore electronics. If you had a stack of anti-vehicle mines behind you like Omar had it would look like you are working on landmines...like he was.
In a court, that'd be nothing but assumptions.... for all I know, he could be making cakes or curling stones in the desert.... but his hands are not on any of them nor does it actually look like he's doing anything other then picking the crud from his finger nails.
There is no proof in that shot that he made those or has ever worked on them. For all you and I know, those could have all been made by his father at their home his father took him to..... if in fact they are mines/bombs.
It'd be no different then myself accidentally stumbling into a drug factory and then walking back out..... if someone took a picture of me standing in there, gee.... I guess I'm guilty of working in that drug factory, I might be the ring leader..... you have no evidence of me actually putting my hands on any of it, you have no proof of any of my involvement except standing there being a witness to the scene.
As mentioned before in regards to those photos, they prove nothing, they do nothing for the case, none of them relate to the grenade charges, and are nothing but poor attempts to sway emotional influence based on nothing but items being behind him in the photos..... which can and already have been explained very easily.
And besides, you keep acting like this 14 year old kid (at the time) would be some super bomb wizard and the next best thing to Osama himself...... your country is grasping at straws to attempt to prove your actions have been justified..... and it's failing. This isn't even a kid who's had the opportunity to head to college or get a full education, and you keep talking about him as being some evil-doer who was in charge of the whole operation and should be locked away in Cuba until he goes insane and kills himself somehow.
Afterall, them terr'ists are lower then human, which is why afterall, you guys stripped them of all their human rights in the first place isn't it?
Funny how many Americans forget how they were treated by the British not too long ago.
http://writechic.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/omar_khadr_wounded.jpg
^ Warning, Graphic Content. (Allegedly the Photo was taken shortly after he was shot, if indeed it is him)
As for the rest of the information, it's all within your troops' reports. Even the medical records state two exit wounds in the chest, which obviously means he was shot in the back. I have supplied all of this information continually within these forums since I came here..... do a search.
Many reports talk about how infected his wounds became and how very little treatment he was given to help the infection, to the point of almost being intentional.
The difference here is that I supply images that relate to the actual case, and you supply crappy propaganda images that have nothing to do with the case.
Here, I'll even provide you with some more information on the matter:
Khadr shot by U.S. forces before capture: witness
CTV.ca | Khadr shot by U.S. forces before capture: witness=
"U.S. forces shot Omar Khadr twice in the back before the young Canadian terror suspect allegedly killed one of their commandos during a 2002 firefight in Afghanistan, according to one witness.
The unidentified U.S. fighter said Khadr was hit by shrapnel and was facing away from the firefight when he was shot inside an al Qaeda compound......"
^ Seems to match with the original reports the troops made prior to them being edited.
".....The eyewitness also said a second enemy fighter was alive inside the compound when he entered. Khadr's defence lawyers said this casts doubt on the U.S. government's conclusion that Khadr threw the grenade....."
^ Hmmm.... this information has been around for almost a year now.... and you wonder why I already came to a conclusion? Probably because I have been following this stuff for a while now.
Yeah, of course the troop who shot him would see it differently from the guy who didn't shoot him..... oh and their commanding officer would also see it differently too since his ass would be in the sling along with this guy..... so we'll just make him guilty and make up some story.
Soldier's report casts doubt on Khadr guilt - Dec 12, 2008
TheStar.com | Omar Khadr | Soldier's report casts doubt on Khadr guilt
"A U.S. soldier reported that he accidentally stepped on Omar Khadr following a firefight in Afghanistan because Khadr was covered in rubble, casting doubt on whether the 15-year-old Canadian could have thrown the grenade that fatally wounded Delta Force soldier Christopher Speer.
Identified only as "Soldier # 2," it's expected he will testify that he "inadvertently stood on top of (Khadr) and thought he was standing on a 'trap door' because the ground did not seem solid," a motion submitted to the court states.
The soldier then "bent down to move the brush away to see what was beneath him and discovered that he was standing on a person; and that Mr. Khadr appeared to be 'acting dead,' " the motion continued........."
Interesting, another reasonable doubt situation.
"..... Yet another theory offered by the defence suggests that Speer may have been fatally wounded by a "friendly grenade" — meaning one thrown by a member of his own forces. Khadr's military-appointed lawyer, Rebecca Snyder, told the military commission that there was evidence the grenade wounds suffered by Speer were those from a U.S. military M67 grenade — not from a Russian F1 grenade, as the prosecution has asserted......."
^ Well that would line up with the level of stupidity of this whole situation and would explain even better why the US would try to pin the blame on Omar with so many holes in the story.
So now there's three different stories which differ from the official claims (which were edited don't forget) on what could have happened..... and the majority of the other differing claims all seem to have one thing in common...... that Omar didn't have a chance to throw the grenade.
Reasonable doubt.
I have no sympathy for his father, his actions and who he sided with.... he got what was coming to him...... his child however, is exactly that..... a child.... and even if he was fighting, once again, Child Soldier.....
It's not really a myth if you come accross one of these situations and you decide to talk it up with them to see where they come from in Canada, and they either claim to be from the US, or they try and make up some BS story that only an American could think up...... yes, a Myth.
So much of a myth in fact, I remember seeing some American Travel information claiming that it would be wise to do this. Our own travel information companies have been telling us to wear them for decades now to wear a flag on a backpack or something like that, because most overseas considered us "Neutral" .... or used to.....
But here's some information:
Why Americans pretend to be Canadian
Why Americans pretend to be Canadian - Times Online
"FOR some Americans, to be mistaken for a Canadian is the ultimate humiliation, yet hundreds of US citizens travelling abroad have willingly acquired a disguise of a T-shirt with a Canadian flag.
Traditionally, Americans have looked down on their northern neighbours and Canadians are the butt of a thousand American jokes. But faced with hostility on their foreign holidays, some Americans are going to great lengths to conceal their nationality.
Those prepared to make the switch can now buy maple leaf stickers for their luggage. The truly adventurous can even learn the dialect and replenish their knowledge of the adopted homeland with the help of the quick reference guide How to Speak Canadian, Eh?......."
Or how about:
Americans offered "Canadian disguise kit" for travelling
http://www.travelmole.com/stories/102430.php
"Many American travellers are reportedly going to great lengths to pretend they are Canadian – and they can now take advantage of a reference guide to help with the deception. According to a report in The Times newspaper, an American company is selling a "disguise package" including a T-shirt and lapel pin bearing the traditional Canadian maple leaf motif – and the reference guide, entitled "How to Speak Canadian, Eh?" The owner of the company reportedly sensed a business opportunity after anecdotal evidence that US citizens have faced "hostility" while abroad, and reports of a "flood of inquiries" on the Canadian immigration website following George Bush's recent election win........"
Myth indeed.
No, all irrelevant..... and I'll say it again, since I'm almost to the end of another of your responses and have yet to see any response to it...... CHILD SOLDIER
If I'm lacking common sense, then what does that say about you?
So then you feel the son should be punished for the actions of the father?
I never brought it up thus far?
Are you mad?? :-? I've been saying it continually since this whole situation became public. And it doesn't matter if I think for the most part that he is innocent..... If by the remote chance he is guilty of the crimes put against him..... he is a child soldier in that situation.
And you don't make up the international rules on human rights or war, and neither do I. You can't just pick and choose at what age you think you can throw a teenager into adult courts, prisons and punishments..... I was old enough to pick up my dad's Bren gun when I was 7..... it was heavy as hell, but I could do it..... so I guess I should be tossed into Cuba as well based on that mentality.
Oh yeah, that mentality means squat in "Real" law cases.
I have provided a plithora of magical common sense thus far, you have yet to connect to much of it however and revolve yourself around the same excuses and flawed emotional reasonings that the Bush Administration wanted you to get sucked into.
Yes, because I have been so know for being emotional over these types of things. I know nothing about this kids likes, hates, wants or desires anymore then the next person, and whatever happens to him has very little affect on my own life...... what I do know is the situation he has been placed in. He could have been any race, any gender, following any religious belief you can think of..... what he has been placed through.... what all of those prisoners in Git have been put through is barbaric and a true view of what US Freedom and Opportunity is all about..... which is the freedom to take other people's freedom away.
