Parliament prorogued
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Durka, I don’t’ know about increased transfer payments, but I hope it is true about the Senate appointments. I think it is totally unfair that NDP and the Bloc have no representation in the Senate. They have representation in the lower chamber; it is only fair that they have representation in the upper chamber.
In Britain, the PM appoints Lords from all the three parties, they are appointed in proportion to their strength in the House of Commons. PM asks the party leaders for the recommendations and appoints the Lords accordingly. As a result, all three parties have adequate representation in the House of Lords.
I don’t see why we cannot follow similar process here.
Good day Colpy, why is it outrageous now? when in fact Harper in 2000 he approached Jeel Duceppe to do the exact same thing, I have respect for Duceppe telling Harper to go an F him self at the time... as I am sure many Quebecers after this will respect Jeel Duceppe more. Harper is a typical Con Hypocrite because of that.:angryfire::angryfire::angryfire:
I think a coalition with the support of the Bloc Quebecois separatists, launched for no particular reason, is completely outrageous......political opportunism and meglomania, flavoured with just a pinch of sedition.
Union leaders worry more jobs will be lost by suspension of Parliament
How's that for a headline?
Maybe they (the NDP) should of thought about the consequences before they formed a coalition with the Grits.
How's that for a headline?
Maybe they (the NDP) should of thought about the consequences before they formed a coalition with the Grits.
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This is what I was hoping for. I'd rather weather the storm than try to spend our way out of it, but by the looks of it Harper will be making a stimulus package anyways.
I think that Gilles Duceppe is a desperate man , he knows that if he doesn't get tobe PM now he'll never be PM.
And Layton may also be S.O.L. soon too.
And Layton may also be S.O.L. soon too.
OK....Canada's had its election, and it's political turmoil with the coalition, and the
excitement with the GG, and now the PM's pirogued Parliament until sometime in
January....and still we don't know what the H*LL's going on...or what will happen.
I have a question that no Politician has brought up. I think it's a good one and maybe
one of the many-many bright folks here on Canadian Content Forums can answer for
me. I think this coalition thing will come to pass no matter what Harper proposes in a
budget in January. Then (if that comes to pass) the coalition will do their economic
stimuli (= bailout) package of $23 Billion or $30 Billion or whatever number
Mr. Dion happens to come up with for the manufacturing & auto & forestry sectors.
OK....whatever...it'll be inevitable. $$$ will flow to keep these sectors going and in
theory that's a great thing as long as we have customers to sell these products to.
Something like 80% of our paper & lumber products (and 90% of the Automobiles)
from Canada are produced for export to the USA who're (<--8O8O:lol::lol
in a recession,so they are not building houses or buying cars. North American Automotive sales are
down 50% from two years ago, and 90% of the vehicles made in Canada are shipped
out to the USA...
....So....how many auto workers and forestry workers jobs can realistically be saved?
Half? About half? All of them?:?:
If we keep All of them working with bail-out stimulus packages in the Billions, for
products that nobody is buying, where are we going to put all of these cars and paper
and lumber until the fire-sale where they'll be scrapped to make pipe & firewood?:?:
Manufacturing is a very broad (& important) term. If it's manufacturing a marketable item,
bail them out! If it's a product with no buyers, change the product from GMC Trucks to
GMC Solar Panels or something and then bail them out. Does this make sense???8O:?:
If "Massey Ferguson" went to the Federal Government with hat in hand wanting Billions to
keep thousands employed to make Threshing Machines (when the farmers are all using
Combines now), would you bail them out (?) or tell them to start making Combines or
Toilet Bowls or something that people want and need if they want a bail-out?8O:?:
And if the cons had suceeded in creating a coalition with the Separatists, I'd have turned on them so fast it would make your head spin. But they didn't, perhaps because they were not willing to pay the price, perhaps because the Bloc was not willing to deal, who knows?
If the Libs had formed a coalition with just the NDP, I might have thought it good for the system, one federal party centre-right, one centre left, although I'd have moaned at the thought of having them running the country, I'm used to it.......
But combined with the Separatists???? Simply unacceptable.
Anyway, there was no coalition between the Bloc and the Conservatives. It didn't happen. For whatever reason.
Here's a scenario to check out - maybe it's "out to lunch"
It's Oct.15, the day after the election Layton, Dion and Duceppe get together and decide Harper's not fit to govern. On the day parliament starts it's session, they call for a vote of non confidence. Could that happen?
Just because they spend money to stimulate the economy dosn't mean everyone will get their jobs back it means other jobs will be created most likely in other sectors and that they will support the Employment Insurance paid out to who needs it
My question is the %'age...I think we're on the same page. Nobody is stating that,
"Sorry guys, but 1/2 of you will have to go so maybe the other half can stay." The
Union leaders aren't say'n this, and neither are the talking heads. Doesn't matter
how much $$$ is thrown at an industry with a product few want or need or can
afford when things are lean and getting leaner...it's going to fail.
I'm say'n conditions (improved or different product) attached to all $$$ handed out.
Colpy you know the reason, the real reason was because Jeel Duceppe is a strong politician and could not trust Harper.......Even Duceppe said that he could not trust him......But the Con Hypocrisy tree is growing taller by the minute.
Right now, I could care less about Parliament, and care more about what I'm hearing and reading from the people around me, and based on that, the GG made the right call in proroguing. Because let's face it... it's a pretty 50/50 split on how people want to see this go down. She's delayed a final decision, given time for the people to figure out what they want to see, time to see what the parties can pull off as far as working together, and presumably time to let calmer heads prevail.
Pulling partisanship out of the mix, I don't know that she really could have come to a different decision right this instant without a massive backlash one way or another.
Pulling partisanship out of the mix, I don't know that she really could have come to a different decision right this instant without a massive backlash one way or another.