Quebec separation would hurt both sides, but it isn't exaclty third world either.
Could a Liberal-NDP-Bloc Alliance be a good thing for languages?
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Quebec separation would hurt both sides, but it isn't exaclty third world either.
Agreed ... but how much hurt comes with throwing money at a problem in hopes it will go away? Quebec politicians and business people are doing exactly what they should be doing: getting the best deal possible for Quebec. A fast split hurts a lot less than a hundred cuts and tears....
OK, I'll be specific. French-English bilinguals. I thought it would be obvious that I wasn't referring to English-Chinese bilinguals, or French-Arabic bilinguals. The reason I wouldn't see a problem with this is that they wouldn't put a burden on the local government, police, hospitals etc. for translation and interpretation services.
Common sense I thought.
They don't have dual citizenship now. No concessions. Nobody can have things both ways. Trying to please everyone is what got Canada into this muddle.
Okay, I accept that and the dual citizenship was answered by another member.
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Have you thought about it or are you on autopilot?
If the ROC goes English only, and Quebec French only, certainly it would be in everyone's best interest to keep trade flowing between the two countries, and to have all kinds of buraucracy requiring visas for this and visas for that would simply slow trade down causing more unemployment. By allowing dual citizenship to anyone who can pass the appropriate tests would eliminate this buraucracy, thus allowing compaies to hire such people to negotiate deals between the two new countries, thus allowing for freer trade and business to flourish.
Especially in a recession we certainly don't want to slam the brakes on whatever spending is left!
So again I ask, had you really thought about this from an economic standpoint or was t just your ethnic autopilot kicking in?
No, I don't think a coalition gov't made of Glibs, Naive Dense Pussies, and Bloc-heads WOULD be good for Canada. I think a coalition COULD be good if the Cons were included in that list. In spite of the Glibs previously displayed (albeit occasional, not constant) ability to balance budgets, they also have displayed the ability to provide their buddies with gobs of public funding, spend money as if it grew like weeds, etc. BC's experience with NDP rule has shown that they have NO fiscal restraint whatsoever and indeed, go so far as to severely hinder the sources of new income. And including the Bloc in the coalition may provide a voice for fiscal restraint but it would only be a small voice (more like a whisper).
I would much prefer my tax dollars go toward research and development than funding the status quo of an archaic and highl;y unfair electoral system.
Personally, I don't give a crap about the language thing except that it's a waste of federal money. I must be getting enured to the foolishness of it. Me bad.
I would much prefer my tax dollars go toward research and development than funding the status quo of an archaic and highl;y unfair electoral system.
Personally, I don't give a crap about the language thing except that it's a waste of federal money. I must be getting enured to the foolishness of it. Me bad.
What autopilot? I'm saying we have bent over backwards to please Quebec and it's never enough. If they go ... they go completely. Businesses who work in English and trade in English aren't going to burden themselves with whichever version of french is indigenous to the region. It's time Quebec realized Canada doesn't revolve around it either.
If an alternative proposal had been offered removing the burden on the public and back onto either business or Unions we would not be even discussing this topic of the loss of parties..
We would still however be talking about the toppling of the Conservatives for the lack of stimulus of the economy and or a coalition to keep us out of another election regardless..
As to funding independent candidates, yes I am in favour of supporting them totally, if there is no alternative. That is what Canada is all about. In Fact the Conservative Government of Today would not exist if it were not for this right and the old Progressive Conservative Party would still be a shell of a party if not for that right. I like how they filled up their bank accounts either with Big Business and or at tax payer expense while obviously not having any other expnses since the 2004 Leadership campaign which is still being reviewed by Elections Canada !!!!
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So that $1.95 per vote can fund and Independent, Green party member, Heritage party Member, NDP or any other fringe member that cannot count on larger donations from new rules that says Business / Unions or Associations cannot donate and that individuals can only give $5,000 per calendar year.
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Speaking of some coalition stimulating the economy, has anyone thought of HOW they would do this?
Not sure about the Dippers or the Bloc-heads, but I am 100% certain that various commercial/industrial buddies of the Glibs would be ecstatic over how much the Glibs would stimulate the economy for them at the exclusion of small business and whoever else.
Not sure about the Dippers or the Bloc-heads, but I am 100% certain that various commercial/industrial buddies of the Glibs would be ecstatic over how much the Glibs would stimulate the economy for them at the exclusion of small business and whoever else.
It would be no time at all before the 3 of them would be fighting... It will never work.
Once again, you are assuming they will join forces as one united party.. An agreement in principle is all that will be required to continue parliament. Items such as Non-Confidence voting bills are the only stumbling bloc that could bring down this government. It scares people that parties may have to actually compromise to make things happen. What a concept..
Of course there would be a lot of arguing. We've had decades upon decades of confrontation to overcome. Eventually, however, I am sure that cooperation would overcome and contentions would be minimized. Never say never.
Being in bed with the 'enemy' (bloc) is being in bed with the enemy. Guaranteed it will bite both the fiberals and the ndpers in the butt.
If it does thats good for you and if it doesn't what then ?
People always assume the worse but what happens when the best happens ?
By the way I couldn't care less for a coalition, but I don't want another election..
Are you sure about this? To my knowledge only parties get this 1.95. If you vote for an independent, he gets nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.