Life after death

talloola

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how you lifes in this life ?

80 or 100 or 1000

then what ?

this life just for test

I don't agree with that analogy at all, I think that is untrue, and if
you believe that, fine, but I don't believe that happens at all, for me
this is my life 'now', and I will do it the best I can, I will not be back, I
will not have another life, I am having my turn right now, and I will make
the best of it, I value my life.
 

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I don't agree with that analogy at all, I think that is untrue, and if
you believe that, fine, but I don't believe that happens at all, for me
this is my life 'now', and I will do it the best I can, I will not be back, I
will not have another life, I am having my turn right now, and I will make
the best of it, I value my life.

I agree, we only get one try at it. So it better work.
scratch
 

ahmadabdalrhman

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From the video:

"To dust we all return
and rejoice when others burn"

How evil!

Why is it all you religionists get so excited about everybody being burned up?

Even when I was a religionist myself I didn't like the idea of people being hurt.

in the commutating aright the one he makes video like this to save people from mantrap

or denial that very good thing then he will save some people from the hell

the god chasten that person the god gifts to him from blisses then he do not thank god but not

just do not thanking the god but he deny and he depict the god to the bad things the god will chasten him do not the

chance to escape from god just to god

the Islam gifts from god do not lost it

the Islam is the big gift from god do not losing the gift then you will losing your self

 
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Dexter Sinister

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... he makes video like this to save people from mantrap ...
You're not getting it. Pardon me folks for presuming to speak for all of us who aren`t buying this, but I think this is correct: you can't save us ahmadabdalrhman, we don't believe you and never will, because our understanding of logic and evidence says you cannot possibly be right, and we don't like or want your version of salvation anyway. We're trusting ourselves and our perceptions and understandings, not you and yours. We prefer thinking for ourselves and risking being wrong to accepting a logically indefensible argument from authority.
 

talloola

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You're not getting it. Pardon me folks for presuming to speak for all of us who aren`t buying this, but I think this is correct: you can't save us ahmadabdalrhman, we don't believe you and never will, because our understanding of logic and evidence says you cannot possibly be right, and we don't like or want your version of salvation anyway. We're trusting ourselves and our perceptions and understandings, not you and yours. We prefer thinking for ourselves and risking being wrong to accepting a logically indefensible argument from authority.

'here here'
 

ahmadabdalrhman

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I don't agree with that analogy at all, I think that is untrue, and if
you believe that, fine, but I don't believe that happens at all, for me
this is my life 'now', and I will do it the best I can, I will not be back, I
will not have another life, I am having my turn right now, and I will make
the best of it, I value my life.

all from we will be back from this life '' to next life ''

will staying just what we do it to the god mercy to we or to angering the god ( just what we doing it in this life he stay to next life )

we they commuters and the time he is the distance

this life just like land have seeds the people have to take the good seeds or

the bad seeds to the grange ( next life )

and the good seeds the works placate the god mercy and the god generosity

and the bad seeds the works the to placate angering the god
and the god penalty


and you are have freedom any seeds to take him with you in your commuting
 

Vanni Fucci

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It always amazes me how broken some people's thought processes really are...

How they are trapped within the narrow bubble of their own beliefs and are unable to even ask the single most important question of their lives...

IS WHAT I BELIEVE IN REAL?

The only way to honestly answer that question is to set aside the perspectives of the mystical and superstitious beliefs that they have held and look at things from the outside with objectivity and reason...

It's really surprising what one can find when they're actually looking...
 

Vanni Fucci

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It always amazes me how broken some people's thought processes really are...

How they are trapped within the narrow bubble of their own beliefs and are unable to even ask the single most important question of their lives...

IS WHAT I BELIEVE IN REAL?

The only way to honestly answer that question is to set aside the perspectives of the mystical and superstitious beliefs that they have held and look at things from the outside with objectivity and reason...

It's really surprising what one can find when they're actually looking...

Never mind...

Their god forbids thinking outside the bubble...
 

In Between Man

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look at things from the outside with objectivity and reason...
First of all, people can be objective even when they aren’t neutral. A doctor can give an objective diagnosis even if he has strong feelings for the patient. That is, he can be objective even though he isn’t neutral. In fact, his passion for the patient may cause him to be all the more diligent in diagnosing and then treating the disease properly. The survivors of the holocaust who wrote down their experiences certainly were not neutral bystanders. They believed passionately in recording those events so that the world would never forget the holocaust and, hopefully, never repeat it. While passion may cause some people to exaggerate, it may drive others to be all the more meticulous and accurate so as not to lose credibility and acceptance of the message they wish to communicate.

Second, the whole point to being open minded is so that you can recognize the objective truth when you come across it. It makes more sense to not rule out the supernatural. Therefore, if your open to both natural and supernatural causes, you can follow where the evidence leads you. If you rule out potential causes, you risk missing the answer....

Never mind...

Their god forbids thinking outside the bubble...

:roll: why would he do that?
 
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Vanni Fucci

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First of all, people can be objective even when they aren’t neutral. A doctor can give an objective diagnosis even if he has strong feelings for the patient. That is, he can be objective even though he isn’t neutral. In fact, his passion for the patient may cause him to be all the more diligent in diagnosing and then treating the disease properly. The survivors of the holocaust who wrote down their experiences certainly were not neutral bystanders. They believed passionately in recording those events so that the world would never forget the holocaust and, hopefully, never repeat it. While passion may cause some people to exaggerate, it may drive others to be all the more meticulous and accurate so as not to lose credibility and acceptance of the message they wish to communicate.

There is a huge difference between being passionate about something tangible, and being passionate about ones beliefs...

Objectivity can only be achieved when the outcome is not predetermined...and this can be particularly difficult, when it comes to religion, as your beliefs are psychologically bound to your percieved self...and in order to see past the world as you know it, and let there be a departure from how you normally would think...

I've done this quite often in my life...when something I believe in is challenged, I find that I have to suspend my belief to look at things from another perspective...and sometimes my mind will be changed, and sometimes not...but at least I had the courage to go there...

Second, the whole point to being open minded is so that you can recognize the objective truth when you come across it. It makes more sense to not rule out the supernatural. Therefore, if your open to both natural and supernatural causes, you can follow where the evidence leads you. If you rule out potential causes, you risk missing the answer....

Including the supernatural is anathema to deductive reasoning and cannot objectively answer any question, as the supernatural can be invoked to explain anything, even things we know for certain could not be true...

:roll: why would he do that?

Because he's an a-hole...
 

ahmadabdalrhman

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It always amazes me how broken some people's thought processes really are...

How they are trapped within the narrow bubble of their own beliefs and are unable to even ask the single most important question of their lives...

IS WHAT I BELIEVE IN REAL?

The only way to honestly answer that question is to set aside the perspectives of the mystical and superstitious beliefs that they have held and look at things from the outside with objectivity and reason...

It's really surprising what one can find when they're actually looking...

IS WHAT I BELIEVE IN REAL?

the quran 100 % prove the god exist

again

YouTube - 100% proof the Qur'an is The Word of God.
 
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Scientific accuracy!! lol the science in the Qur'an is complete crap! It's been posted here and it is absurd, ambiguous and outright trash! Your little video here just demonstrates that Muhammad or his buddies dissected a bunch of pregnant women! What a scum! He screws little girls and chops their mothers up!
 

talloola

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all from we will be back from this life '' to next life ''

will staying just what we do it to the god mercy to we or to angering the god ( just what we doing it in this life he stay to next life )

we they commuters and the time he is the distance

this life just like land have seeds the people have to take the good seeds or

the bad seeds to the grange ( next life )

and the good seeds the works placate the god mercy and the god generosity

and the bad seeds the works the to placate angering the god
and the god penalty

and you are have freedom any seeds to take him with you in your commuting
I don't believe any of that, it is silly.
 

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ahmadabdalrhman

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100% Proof Quran is a crock of ****


If you need know thing taken it from flowing cloudless not from his enemy ,

do not ask teacher language french to teach you chinese language ,

who search about truth will see it


The Quran is a Divine Miracle of Literature [Prophesy - Science - Warnings - Wisdom - Truths] ..and it has been Preserved 100% In the Original Language - for over 1,400 years!

Humanity has received Divine Guidance only through two channels:

the Word of Almighty God ("Allah" [in Arabic]) [scriptures, Bible, Psalms, etc.]
the Prophets sent by the Allah to communicate His Will to mankind

These two things have always been going together, hand in hand.

More important though, there were at that time, tens of thousands of his companions ("sahabi" in Arabic) who memorized the complete Quran from the instruction of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. Even the prophet himself, peace be upon him, used to recite it while angel Gabriel once a year and in the last year of his life he recited it two times just before the month in which he died.

Next, the leader who came after the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, (Abu Bakr) entrusted the collection of the Quran to be written in one volume by one of the Prophet's scribe, Zaid Ibn Thabit. He kept it till his death. Then the next leader, Umar and after him to his daughter, Hafsa who had been one of the wives of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.

Then from the original text which now resides in Topkope Museum, in Istanbul, Turkey, the next leader, Uthman prepared several other exact duplications and sent them to various Muslim territories such as; Uzbekistan and Turkey and England. Today many of the Muslims from these areas are still memorizing the Quran.

The Quran was so meticulously preserved because it is the Book of Guidance for all of humanity for all times. That is why it does not address just the Arabs, in whose language it was revealed. In fact Arabs today do not comprise more than 13% of the Today of Muslims in the world today.



The Quran speaks to "mankind"

Quran speaks to all of mankind on a general basis without regard to race, tribe, color, social position, financial condition or genealogy.

Allah the Almighty says:

"O Mankind! What has seduced you from your Lord so Generous?"

[Noble Quran 82:6]





The Practical Teachings of the Quran

Teachings of Quran are established by the example of Muhammad, peace be upon him, and the good Muslims throughout the ages have endeavored to emulate his teachings both in thought and conduct.

The distinctive approach of the Quran is that its instructions are aimed at the general welfare of the mankind and are based on the possibilities within his reach.



The Quran is Wisdom Conclusive.

It neither condemns nor tortures the flesh nor does it neglect the soul.
It does not humanize God, nor does it deify man.
Everything is carefully placed where it belongs in the total scheme of creation.

Yet it obviously is not written in human style (chronological order). Those who would claim that the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was the author of the Quran are claiming something that is humanly impossible.

How could any person of the 7th century utter such scientific truths as those found in the Quran?
Could he describe the evolution of the embryo inside the uterus so accurately as we find it now recorded in modern science?

[see: Dr. Keith Moore's book - on embryology]



Secondly, is it logical to believe that Muhammad, peace be upon him, who up to the age of forty was marked only for his honesty and integrity, began all of a sudden the authorship of a book matchless in literary merit and the equivalent of which the whole legion of the Arab poets and orators of the highest caliber could not produce?

And lastly, is it justified to say that Muhammad, peace be upon him, who was known as "Al-Ameen" (trustworthy) in his society and who is still admired by the non-Muslim scholars for his honesty, would lie about receiving the Quran (which forbids lying) from the Angel Gabriel and then still be able to establish the best human society on the face of the earth, based on truth?

Surely, any sincere and unbiased searcher of truth must come to the conclusion that the Quran is the revealed Book of Almighty Allah.

Readers can easily see how the modern world is coming closer to reality regarding the truth of the Quran.
We appeal to all open minded scholars to study the Quran in the light of the aforementioned points.
We invite all to challenge the validity and accuracy of the sciences known to man today and keep in mind that this is the EXACT TEXT</I> used by the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, over one thousand four hundred years ago.

We are sure that any such attempt will convince the reader that the Quran could never have been written by any human being ever.

from Allah's Quran - All About The Quran


archaeological he is not Against quran

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/spirituality-philosophy/77663-here-s-story-france-pharaoh.html




YouTube - Scientist say after reading Quran. 12


this webs is lies ,

If you need know thing taken it from flowing cloudless not from his enemy ,

do not ask teacher language french to teach you chinese language ,

who search about truth will see it
 

ahmadabdalrhman

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You've been lied to...

Check your sources Alabamallama...

do not worry my sources good and I say again

If you need know thing taken it from flowing cloudless not from his enemy ,

do not ask teacher language french to teach you chinese language ,

who search about truth will see it

YouTube - Scientist say after reading Quran.

you need more from scientists to proved the quran to you ?
 

Vanni Fucci

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you need more from scientists to proved the quran to you ?

So you figure there are going to be actual scientists that support the quran's assertion that human sperm originates from the spinal cord?

Or that the Earth was created in 300,000 years when in actual fact it was several billion years?

Or that a man can walk to the setting place of the sun?

Or that stars exist in order to keep Jinn (read genies) from eavesdropping on the conversations in heaven?

I find it extremely hard to fathom how any scientist could find value in a book that purports such absurdities...

The only logical conclusion I can arrive at is that these people you keep referencing are not scientists at all, but quranic shills trying to keep you from questioning the big hoax...
 

ahmadabdalrhman

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So you figure there are going to be actual scientists that support the quran's assertion that human sperm originates from the spinal cord?

YouTube - Quran And Modern Science Conflict Or Conciliation 15/46

Or that the Earth was created in 300,000 years when in actual fact it was several billion years?

It's the first time I heard that ? In where It In quran or sunah ?

Or that a man can walk to the setting place of the sun?

It's the first time I heard that ? In where It In quran or sunah ?

Or that stars exist in order to keep Jinn (read genies) from eavesdropping on the conversations in heaven?

hmmmm

you do not believe in the jinn

the son from my father-in-law entered In him jinn

the man knowing the quran read on him quran and him become ok



I find it extremely hard to fathom how any scientist could find value in a book that purports such absurdities...

becose he scientist he know there is god

The only logical conclusion I can arrive at is that these people you keep referencing are not scientists at all, but quranic shills trying to keep you from questioning the big hoax...

of of course just you are the know !! :lol: