Does Justin have what it takes to make his old man proud?

scratch

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Trudeau patriated the constitution, and entrenched the Canadian charter of rights.

"Kneel before his image, lift your eyes heavenward, throw up your hands, and cry out in witness to his greatness...."


Colpy the statement above shows how small your thinking is towards a great man, which Pier Eliot Trudeau was and you or any one else in this country will never have such a ceremony of people morning when he passed on. That alone is a great achievement to have the streets of a city completely shut down during the time of people morning in the millions...........

You hate the word Liberal and anything or any one associated to Liberal thinking....
It is your choice and many others like you, one thing for sure your choice to think that Liberal thinking sucks will never change the colorful Liberal History...................

This one is easy. Trudeau didn't want inyo politics but he was forced.

The quality that he displayed, which was recognized and admired around the world was, he was his own man, was straight with the people, was honest and did what he had to do given any situation.

They do not make them like that any more.

But there is one on the horizon and he will be as great as or greater than his father.

 

Colpy

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You hate the word Liberal and anything or any one associated to Liberal thinking....
It is your choice and many others like you, one thing for sure your choice to think that Liberal thinking sucks will never change the colorful Liberal History...................

Socrates, you have no idea how wrong you are.......

I am a classic liberal. In the small "l" sense of the word.

Trudeau is one of the reasons I have never voted for the Liberal Party of Canada. His legacy has been disasterous. He was a dangerous man.........to me, the outpouring of foundationless adoration for the man is extremely disturbing......something like a friend's reaction to climbing into a taxi in Moscow.........and seeing a large picture of Joe Stalin hanging on the back of the seat facing him......

What the Hell?????
 

scratch

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Socrates, you have no idea how wrong you are.......

I am a classic liberal. In the small "l" sense of the word.

Trudeau is one of the reasons I have never voted for the Liberal Party of Canada. His legacy has been disasterous. He was a dangerous man.........to me, the outpouring of foundationless adoration for the man is extremely disturbing......something like a friend's reaction to climbing into a taxi in Moscow.........and seeing a large picture of Joe Stalin hanging on the back of the seat facing him......

Just cannot let the past go because it was unacceptable to you.
Well gear up for another one is coming!

What the Hell?????

Just cannot let the past go because it was unacceptable to you.
Well gear up for another one is coming!
 

Colpy

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This one is easy. Trudeau didn't want inyo politics but he was forced.

The quality that he displayed, which was recognized and admired around the world was, he was his own man, was straight with the people, was honest and did what he had to do given any situation.

They do not make them like that any more.

But there is one on the horizon and he will be as great as or greater than his father.

Ha!

Straight with the people!

This is the guy that called MPs "nobodies"......the guy that ran an entire election against Robert Stanfield on the platform of "No wage and Price Controls".........which he instantly adopted when he got in power......

The guy that side-stepped service to his country in WWII...........he was not a "draft dodger", he was much craftier than that.....he was a volunteer officer in the militia, and got himself decommissioned for inappropriate behaviour......which meant he could never serve.

Yes, he did it on purpose.

He was scum.

I know little about his son, he might be a decent man......
 

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Ha!

Straight with the people!

This is the guy that called MPs "nobodies"......the guy that ran an entire election against Robert Stanfield on the platform of "No wage and Price Controls".........which he instantly adopted when he got in power......

The guy that side-stepped service to his country in WWII...........he was not a "draft dodger", he was much craftier than that.....he was a volunteer officer in the militia, and got himself decommissioned for inappropriate behaviour......which meant he could never serve.

Yes, he did it on purpose.

He was scum.

I know little about his son, he might be a decent man......

And we have all those do not want to go Yanks gaining landed status in our country.

It was his choice to make but only you seem to care.

He had a better send off than JFK .

Imagine Castro and the sitting POTUS in the same church.

 

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gerryh,
property taxes...whoopdeedoo..... He doesn't live here...he doesn't work here...... but I'll lay odds he was educated here...took advatage of our subsidized education system and skipped the country to work else where
Well you are wrong again ,the3 ys that I have attended school in Canada took place in a private boarding highschool .The school was paid by my parents not he government .
....will probably retire here to take advantage of our social saftey net for seniors when the time come....
Wrong ,After working for over 35 years I could have retired in Canada, but decided to start life again this time in China .In Canada I was (and still am) a member of Conservative and a Reform parties and have contributed to my contry not only by paying taxes .

doesn't contribute sweet frick all to Canada during his working years but will take advantage of all we have to offer before and after the fact....a leach in other words.
I think you are describing yourself gerryh ,and that is really funny .
STUPIDTTY MAKES ME LAUGH hahahaah
 

scratch

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You just can't let it go when you are wrong, eh scratch?

That said, the other one doesn't stand a chance.
Risus,
you are a blithering, drooling babit.

Which isn't surprizing, considering where you live.

I lived there and never met anyone that had a clue about anything---you know like an American city of people, which Toronto has become.
 

Risus

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Risus,
you are a blithering, drooling babit.

Which isn't surprizing, considering where you live.

I lived there and never met anyone that had a clue about anything---you know like an American city of people, which Toronto has become.
LOL, look at who is blithering!!! You don't have a clue.

For your information, I spend 6 months in a small community north of Belleville (which I am sure due to your ignorance, you have never heard of). I disagree with the politics of Miller, But even though you don't believe it, money can be made on Toronto. So there. I know more than you will ever know, and you can take that to the bank. :p:p:p
 

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LOL, look at who is blithering!!! You don't have a clue.

For your information, I spend 6 months in a small community north of Belleville (which I am sure due to your ignorance, you have never heard of). I disagree with the politics of Miller, But even though you don't believe it, money can be made on Toronto. So there. I know more than you will ever know, and you can take that to the bank. :p:p:p

Actually you're both idiots.:roll::lol:
 

scratch

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LOL, look at who is blithering!!! You don't have a clue.

For your information, I spend 6 months in a small community north of Belleville (which I am sure due to your ignorance, you have never heard of). I disagree with the politics of Miller, But even though you don't believe it, money can be made on Toronto. So there. I know more than you will ever know, and you can take that to the bank. :p:p:p

I know exactly where Belleville is.
Do you know where Vaudreueil is?
 

gerryh

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gerryh,
Well you are wrong again ,the3 ys that I have attended school in Canada took place in a private boarding highschool .The school was paid by my parents not he government .


Proves how stupid you are.... even private schools get government funding in Canada.
 

scratch

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Yes I do.

If you could read you would have seen I said a small community NORTH OF BELLEVILLE. By 35 kms actually. Have you heard of Stoco???
Not on my radar, course for you it's a magical wonderland for little boys. Sort of like in the MJ mode.
 

Trex

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property taxes...whoopdeedoo..... He doesn't live here...he doesn't work here...... but I'll lay odds he was educated here...took advatage of our subsidized education system and skipped the country to work else where....will probably retire here to take advantage of our social saftey net for seniors when the time come.... doesn't contribute sweet frick all to Canada during his working years but will take advantage of all we have to offer before and after the fact....a leach in other words.

Well gerryh in regards to this subject it appears to me you do not have the faintest clue about what your talking about.

First lets address schooling; I don't think its unusual for Canadians to go to school.
I think schooling should be encouraged not criticized.

Now lets take a quick peek at my situation and use it as an example.
Educated to grade 12 courtesy of the Canadian school system.
College degree courtesy of the Canadian post secondary system (and the hard working Canadian tax-payers).
Fully half of my student loan forgiven for reasons that completely escaped me both then and now.

Moving along numerous years to today lets look at my situation.
Worked overseas for the last 17 years.
Worked in the States,Central America, South Asia, Caribbean and last but not least 4 years in Europe.
I have not worked more than 5 months in Canada in 17 years.

According to you I contribute "sweet frick all" and am a "leach".
Lets explore that line of logic a wee bit.

I choose to reside in Canada, and am a home owner in Alberta.
I pay FULL Federal and Provincial Taxes just like everybody else.
I pay property tax just like everyone else (including school taxes although I have no kids).
I pay GST on everything I buy.
In fact I pay the exact same amount of both up front and hidden taxes as every other long-suffering, overtaxed Canadian.

Now lets take a peek at my income stream.
As a private consultant with my own tiny little company I direct bill the companies I work for.
I bill the foreign based companies in a agreed upon currency ( USD, Euros, whatever) and wire
transfer the money back into Canada and then use a broker to convert the funds to Canadian dollars.
So what I am doing is earning FORIEGN money and then transferring those assets into Canada.
So that would be British or Italian or German money being shifted into Canada and OUR home economy.
I then spend it all in Canada providing income for local Canadian merchants and businesses.

Now lets take a look at my utilization of Canadian services.
I used to be out of country for up to half a year but now I try not to work more than 100 days a year.
Therefore I am out of Canada for 100 to 160 days a year.
Therefore I utilize all the services my taxes pay for from 1/3 to 1/2 LESS than just about all other Canadians.
So I pay the same taxes as everyone else but use the roads, hospitals, libraries, medical clinics and general public infrastructure up to half what other people do.
Thus freeing up more space and reducing crowding for my fellow Canadians.
When I am out of country I foot the bill myself for medical needs and the like.

By working out of country I free up one more "JOB" for a fellow Canadian.
This is because I could easily be working in Canada and thus taking up a job position.
By working overseas I directly free up one more job slot for a potential Canadian worker.

As to my retirement I pay the full ride into my CPP.
My OAS is going to clawed completely back because of my retirement savings.

Now I could easily relocate to a country with a much cheaper cost of living and far, far lower income taxes.
Someplace like Mexico, Costa Rica, Portugal, the Caribbean.
They would love to have me; lets face it however what they really would love to have is my foreign currency stream spent in THEIR country.

Fact is I have lived part time in condos and apartments in the States, South Asia and the Caribbean.
Obviously I could go non-rez and dodge taxes completely if I wanted.
I know how to do that and have met many others who DO do it.
It is of course potentially illegal and considered by some to be unethical.

So I choose to pump my income stream right back into the Canadian economy.
And live in one of the highest taxed countries on the planet.
Just cause I like it here.

So gerryh if you want to Increase foreign investment in Canada. Increase employment opportunities and reduce usage of critical and crowded services while at the same time fully funding them you would need to encourage Canadians to work internationally.
Not insult and abuse them.

Be happy to debate this particular topic further with you.

Trex
 
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