why steven harper will make a good prime minister
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Yep. That's right. $76,000 for a family of 4. About twice what my family made for most of the time I was raising my kids. Still more than my wife and I make combined. And we work for it. It isn't handed out to us.
The point is that is an immense amount of money. Why is it not sustaining a reasonable standard of living on some reservations? Why are natives off reservation actually better off?
There has to be something wrong with the system.
And if it is a black hole, pouring more cash in won't help.
So what is the solution?
Mulroney's debt, and the free trade agreement could just kill this country. Mulroney had a deficit of $40 or $50 billion every year he was in office so it is pretty hard to blame anyone but Mulroney when the bulk of the debt has mulroney's name on it.. The Liberals have paid off some of the debt but that is very difficult when the annual service costs of the debt takes thirty percent of your revenue.
I don't wish to part company with you on this matter because we are in the veritable midst of ideology.
I think you'll agree with me that all health care systems got problems north and south of the border.
And it's too complex for me to understand.
I think you'll agree with me that all health care systems got problems north and south of the border.
And it's too complex for me to understand.
Colpy said:
No, no Colpy. Setting aside the fact that you weren't responsible for the killing and taking their land, we're about to turn the corner on the whole 'native' problem. Just a few more million (billion?) and it'll all come around.
Colpy said:
I just read in the Post that Mr. Dezainde requested RCMP protection before he would be a witness before Gomery.
This is the Director-General of the Quebec wing of the Liberal Party.....he KNOWS what goes on.
This just gets more and more interesting.......
Remember, Rev.....it ain't mudslinging if it is true.
Yeah, just keep defining it in money and using that as an excuse to limit progress and we can all pay forever while other people suffer for no good reason.
Funny...I know a native family on a reserve. They made just over $20,000 last year, including some part time work at the band office. Granted, there's only three of them, not four, but $56,000 for one kid?
That's the kind of crap that comes from spinning your numbers, Colpy. Not a lot of families of four on reserves got your kind of money to live on.
Geez, Rev.
I'm not saying the government is giving it out in cash. (actually, re-reading my post, it does sort of sound that way)
Not what I meant, anyway.
The government has a way with tossing billions of bucks at a problem, and getting nothing in return, doesn't it?
You see why I'd like a little private input in heathcare, eh?
But I digress.
I know there is a problem with corruption on some reserves. I know the Liberals were going to change the law to make band councils more responsible. (I also know a lot of chiefs, if not the majority, were against Nault's plan)
But that can't be all of it. Is the institutional structure of Indian Affairs sucking up all that cash?
Where the hell is it going?
Why isn't it fixing the problem?
All what money? You do not...NOTget to to define this. That's where you keep fucking up. That's where everybody has fucked up to date. The problems are deep and we made them. Some can be solved for next to nothing, other will cost you zillions.
Sorry to say this, especially as a white guy cause it's gonna hurt, but it'd be about time to pay up.
Sorry to say this, especially as a white guy cause it's gonna hurt, but it'd be about time to pay up.
I get a kick out the duplicity of the NDP. They claim that the Liberals are promise breakers and yet claim achievement by accepting a Liberal promise in exchange for voting against bringing down the government, as though by accepting a promise from the Liberals, that they've actually done something. Must be the Toronto air pollution.
They refer to the Liberals as thieves and yet endorse Svend Robinson who is a convicted thief.
In answer to, do I think that Steven Harper would make a good PM the answer is yes. He's honest, which is certainly more than we can say for the Liberals. I've heard people say that Layton has a vision for Canada and I agree, what he has is a "Hidden Socialist Agenda" view for Canada
Only Harper shows an understanding of Canada and it's needs.
And for all the folks that keep saying the he brings up Same Sex Marriage, look again. He answers questions the same each time they're asked and that is to offer to allow a Free Vote, not on what people do with each other but on the "Definition of Marriage" y'know, Democracy in action. Must be scary for the Liberals and the NDP that do NOT allow their members to vote freely.
What a breath of fresh air it would be to have a Federal Prosecutor given full access not only to federal programs but also to Crown Corporations. To have a free vote on issues so that the opinions of Canadians get expressed. To have an Equal, Elected and Effective Senate, rather than the PM's Buddy Club that it is now. To have "Canadian Made" armed icebreakers doing patrols of the north and also the continental waters if needed to enforce fishing regulations. Time to take the country back and make it something to be proud of again.
Kinda long winded but once I got started, it was hard to stop.
Regards,
Pat
They refer to the Liberals as thieves and yet endorse Svend Robinson who is a convicted thief.
In answer to, do I think that Steven Harper would make a good PM the answer is yes. He's honest, which is certainly more than we can say for the Liberals. I've heard people say that Layton has a vision for Canada and I agree, what he has is a "Hidden Socialist Agenda" view for Canada
Only Harper shows an understanding of Canada and it's needs.
And for all the folks that keep saying the he brings up Same Sex Marriage, look again. He answers questions the same each time they're asked and that is to offer to allow a Free Vote, not on what people do with each other but on the "Definition of Marriage" y'know, Democracy in action. Must be scary for the Liberals and the NDP that do NOT allow their members to vote freely.
What a breath of fresh air it would be to have a Federal Prosecutor given full access not only to federal programs but also to Crown Corporations. To have a free vote on issues so that the opinions of Canadians get expressed. To have an Equal, Elected and Effective Senate, rather than the PM's Buddy Club that it is now. To have "Canadian Made" armed icebreakers doing patrols of the north and also the continental waters if needed to enforce fishing regulations. Time to take the country back and make it something to be proud of again.
Kinda long winded but once I got started, it was hard to stop.
Regards,
Pat
If he's honest, why has he flip-flopped on just about everry issue? Was he lying before or is he lying now?
Harper is as corrupt as any Liberal that ever lived, he just hasn't had a chance to get his snout in the trough.
Cmon Rev. why don't you tell me what you really think?
I figure that by doing this type of therapy, I'll help you......Then you too can "Stand Up For Canada. We're an equal opportunity party and won't hold your embarrassing socialist past against you.
It must be scary to the Ottawa trough to have a Conservative candidate that isn't crooked, that just might win this time.
Pat
I figure that by doing this type of therapy, I'll help you......Then you too can "Stand Up For Canada. We're an equal opportunity party and won't hold your embarrassing socialist past against you.
It must be scary to the Ottawa trough to have a Conservative candidate that isn't crooked, that just might win this time.
Pat
a conservative candidate that is not crooked and just might win?
there is no such beast in this election!
the only way you can think harper is consistent is if you suffer from some sort of memory lapse.
there is no such beast in this election!
the only way you can think harper is consistent is if you suffer from some sort of memory lapse.
Umm, your parents and grandparents were the ones that took the land from native people. Even though I am not native, sometimes when I hear the crap that 'its not my fault because it was in the past', I feel that Native people should be allowed to kick out everyone from their land, and the problem will be fixed.
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Stephen Harper does not frighten me. Do I think that he is a good Prime Minister? No!
Jack Layton is a better fit.
the old "that happened in the past" rhetoric comes from just about every group with a tainted history. you can not just dismiss history because it doesn't fit your liking.
You're right about being scared about having a bush wannabee in the running in Ottawa ........but you is way off track when you say he isn't crooked.
The first qualification to be a politician IS to be CROOKED :wink: ......so it is just a matter of degree. ( Harper is just as bad as the rest but tries to cover it differently.
dang with Harper in office , we might lose our entire identity as he will Americanize CA even more. That's the problem with his "idol worship"...
its worse than that Ocean,
Harper not only "idolizes" an idiot, but his inability to lead a moth to a flame means all he will do is follow Bush the way rats followed the pied piper (and take canada there with him).
Harper not only "idolizes" an idiot, but his inability to lead a moth to a flame means all he will do is follow Bush the way rats followed the pied piper (and take canada there with him).
And the second half of the Eastern Propaganda machine chimes in. lol When you stop dancing like a puppet on the string of anti-western democracy philosophy, check Harper out.
Yeah I know, horrors of horrors, he goes to church, he's bright, is straight and has had only one wife. Oh well!!
Y'know, when you're all alone in the voting booth, you can vote Conservative and actually do something. No one will know. You can tell your friends that you blew your nose on it. lol
Sometimes I have more fun than humans
Pat
Yeah I know, horrors of horrors, he goes to church, he's bright, is straight and has had only one wife. Oh well!!
Y'know, when you're all alone in the voting booth, you can vote Conservative and actually do something. No one will know. You can tell your friends that you blew your nose on it. lol
Sometimes I have more fun than humans
Pat
eastern?
i am from the west coast! i did some of my education in central canada (which i guess you call east).
church?
it is all a matter of perspective. i would not list "going to church" as an admirable quality in somebody. (but this is not the place to discuss the realities of mythologies and the brutality of certian ones throughout history. i will only say perhaps harper would like a return to the dark ages give his position on certian issues.)
i am from the west coast! i did some of my education in central canada (which i guess you call east).
church?
it is all a matter of perspective. i would not list "going to church" as an admirable quality in somebody. (but this is not the place to discuss the realities of mythologies and the brutality of certian ones throughout history. i will only say perhaps harper would like a return to the dark ages give his position on certian issues.)