Where does Canada stand?./Who Stands 4 Canada

darkbeaver

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This country needs strong leadership and we have to get tough on crime before it's to late, the conservative Canadians are correct and have been all along. With that in mind I purpose a new party based on the long extinct Red Torys, we should call it The. Do we need a The in front of it?
Maybe not, we'll see. The Socialist Conservative Party of____________________________ this is the export model. Domestically maybe it could be The Red Socons, or maybe The Flameing Red Socons, but it must no longer be the present pretenters to conservatism in this great strong free (in moderation) north, did I miss something, oh yes, beaver loving maple leaf sucking patriots. The present nest of corporate pigs have sullied the very word itself, enough of this crime I say, it's time for traditional conservatives like me and you to get up on thier hind legs and snarl and bark at these Canuckistani neocons and chase thier SUVs and Humers out of the lands towns and villages back to Yankeelandia whense the vermin came.
Remember to conserve everyday. It's your country don't spend it all at once. Tie your shoe laces and don't run accross the street. It's about values. Eat vegetables and fruit. All good traditional conservative practices. :smile:
 

Nuggler

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8O."".. NDP have good ideas . Personally I wish they would join with the greens and become the NDG party"

Say what? "No Damn Good" Party?

Already have that one....called the Heinerich Harpo Party. AKA.......SOR Party (Stomp on Rights)
AKA: KMAC (Kiss my Ass, Canadians) party. lots of names.

If the Greens and the NDP join to further split the vote and allow Harpo a majority, it should be called the " N F G " party..............Right!!........That's exactly what it means.:angry3:

Just my twisted outlook and opinion.

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Praxius

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Where does Canada stand? Who stands for Canada?

1. You wouldn't like the answer.
2. I will stand for Canada.

If you recall, I said I was interested in the way people think. One night I was reading the forum, and it hit me what I perceived to be the core issue that differentiates the US and Canada. I put it together with a few things I knew, my friend told me, and the discussions on this board.

I could be wrong. But if I am, tell me in a nice way. Remember this is the internet, and I have limited experience with Canadians in very large groups.

It's this. The heart of the United States beats as one. I don't hear that same heartbeat from Canada. Have you been to the Indy 500, where 250,000 screaming fans stand and sing the "Star Spangled Banner?" There is a moment when it happens then - we are one.

Have you seen any hockey games? The same thing occurs with our anthom.

Have you ever heard the deafening roar at Texas Stadium when the Cowboys runs onto the field? That would be a more local example. All fans - and many are foreign - merge into one.

Same thing occurs within the NHL or the CFL for local teams..... do you think we golf clap during those things?

Have you ever seen the National Guard standing armed against every building for as far as the eye can see? Have you ever seen tanks roll down the streets of a major Canadian city?

We have war games here in Halifax, air shows, Remembrance Day.....

.... heck, every single time one of our soldiers are killed in the line of duty, their names, ranks, division, everything is postered all over the media accross the nation, their bodies are shown loading up on the plane back home, shown when they come back to Canada, and if the family wants their funeral public, then it is also shown to the country. In between all of this, there are biographies and people talking about the things they have done.

Yet when I look at US media, it's all numbers and figures, with hardly any mention of names, let alone faces put to the names.

Why is this?

Have you felt the power of your country - have you seen it?

Nuclear missiles and tanks are not all of what makes a country powerful.

You might call this patriotism, and that's OK with me. But Canada is so loosely populated, claiming multi-culturalism every 5 mintes, and you're right - no outstanding leader has come from Canada to bring your country to the forefront. Right or wrong: The United States stands firmly together.

That's the problem I personally see within the US, which you just said...... Right or Wrong.... when you are wrong, you should stand up and try to correct the wrong.... not just pump your arms and whoot "USA, USA" against those trying to point out those problems.

Standing firmly together isn't Democracy, as it is only one voice... once voice is something like communism..... if you have only one voice, then how do you know what you as a country are doing might be wrong or not?

Down to Texan: Love it or leave it. We don't want no multi-culturalism here. We made our own culture from our history and our people, and by God, learn our language, obey our laws, don't drive like you are the only one on the street, follow our traditions, and put your hand over your heart. Would hurt nothin if you practiced your manners either.
BTW, we don't blush.

Uncle

Then that isn't a democracy either..... and forcing everyone to agree with you, or your ways, isn't democracy. How can you claim to be "The Leaders of the Free World" when you guys dictate what is free and what is not based on your own personal standards? Esspecially when you don't want others who are different from you in your country to "Cloud" your judgement?

You boast about the US being so united and having One Voice..... yet you have the Republicans and Democrats, you have your strong religious, and you have those who want more liberty in their lives, you have those who are for the option of abortions, and those who are not..... those for gun control, and those who are not...... those who want proper sexual education in their schools to prevent teen pregnancies, and those who want to remove Sex Ed from schools and throw in Creationism, expecting that good little kids won't have sex until they're married.

You have Blacks still fighting for equality and your natives are not much better off then our own.

You have people still for the War in Iraq and staying the course, and then you have people who have opposed it from day one and want your men and women back home where they belong.

Those are just for starters..... the US isn't anymore unified then Canada, and if anything, it's less united.

However, when it comes to patriotism, which all your examples show, both citizens of both countries are damn well proud of the countries they live in respectfully..... I don't question your patriotism, don't question ours.

If we wern't as unified as we were, and we wern't patriotic, chances are, we would have allowed you guys to take us over years ago.... then we could live and act just like you guys, without question or doubt.

We have many differences and many political parties, because we are diverse, we understand how diverse we are, and we embrace it..... there is no one solid answer or solution to everything, and the more questions, the more doubt, and the more voices expressing concern allow us to question if we're about to take the right path or not.

Our diversity allows us to be given more then just one or two options, but several, and sometimes even more. Our questioning, our diveristy, our differing points of views help us think through our actions and learn from our past mistakes.

The whole concept of "Love it or Leave it" doesn't sit well for me. When you have one point of view, or there is a majority supporting one point of view, and one or two people start to question or doubt that course of action..... do you expect to ignore their points of view, freedom of expression, call them unpatriotic and expect them to leave the country?

Just to make things easier, or just to avoid the possibility of being wrong??

I suppose when you kick out and ignore all those who oppose your views, then you have to be right, right?

And just because your paticular race or religion was there first and you setup your own history, you're going to tell me that anybody else who comes to the country legally and becomes just as much a citizen as you, is not allowed to start his or her own history, or democratically change things they may feel is wrong with where they live or their country as a whole?

Where do you get off telling others how to live, what they can or can not do? I thought the US was supposed to be all about freedom and liberty...... now I guess it's freedom and liberty based by those who have more white christian folk representing them in the government?

You may feel your nation is unified and all great..... I and many others see it as something totally different.

I'm not saying this to piss you off, or to directly offend you, but you presented your own observations of my nation.... I am merely returning the favor.
 

Nuggler

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I bow to both "dancing-loon" and "darkbeaver." Not all of us are as insightful as the two of you.

Just what the heck is a "cannibble" anyway? Is this some kind of insider vegetable humour?

Come on Ron: A "cannibble' is when you want to eat something out of a can, but don't have a can opener, so you nibble at the can..................Plain as the nose on yer face, eh!!

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Praxius

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Uncle Percy, I believe you are not far off. We are a large, multi-cultural country. Multi-cultural
is a good idea to a point, but not to the point that small minorities have their cultures inflicted
upon the rest. I'm all for tolerance and acceptance, but multi-culturalism leads to one being
first a ___________ and then a Canadian. Feel free to insert whatever you wish into the blank.
Now I'll step aside and let someone from a minority jumps on my statement, and yours. It will
not take long I'd venture to bet.

You don't need to wait for a minority to do this, as I am a part of the majority and I have already done so.
 

Nuggler

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:lol:..."""Where do you get off telling others how to live, what they can or can not do? I thought the US was supposed to be all about freedom and liberty...... now I guess it's freedom and liberty based by those who have more white christian folk representing them in the government?

You may feel your nation is unified and all great..... I and many others see it as something totally different. __________________
""""


As in pile of s h i t ! ...............yep, my thoughts. blame me, ok.

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Praxius

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I am a Canadian we stand for ladies when they enter the room, we stand for old people when they get on the bus, we stand for hours in the emergency rooms of our hospitals bleeding sometimes, we stand for global socialism and the death of capitalism, we stand on our tippy toes to get our hand in the cookie jar, we stand united against the alien Steven Harper (who is a known cannibble by the way) but mostly we stand in the snow waiting for spring.

I agree on most of that, esspecially the Capitalism.
 

Nuggler

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I agree on most of that, esspecially the Capitalism.



I like the standing in the snow part.

And, standing for Candada, I will probably vote NDP again, also. Damn it. I know it's not 'throwing a vote away', it just feels like it.............Was thinking Liberal, but just can't do it.!!! Just can't. Thinking about all the slimers. Just can't.

:-(
 

Praxius

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I like the standing in the snow part.

And, standing for Candada, I will probably vote NDP again, also. Damn it. I know it's not 'throwing a vote away', it just feels like it.............Was thinking Liberal, but just can't do it.!!! Just can't. Thinking about all the slimers. Just can't.

:-(

Well I'm voting for them, most people I know around here are voting for them..... many polls are saying the NDP have strong support in Atlantic Canada, so maybe once you find that you're not the only one voting for them, it might not seem like a throw away.

And the only reason I can see why most in Atlantic Canada supports the NDP, is because they're the only party that actually bothered to listen to what we need here to grow and develop. The Conservatives have been a joke, and the Liberals screwed us over with the HST and many other things, and even though the NDP only got to being opposition here in NS, they did more work as opposition then the Liberals and Conservatives ever did combined.
 

Nuggler

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Well I'm voting for them, most people I know around here are voting for them..... many polls are saying the NDP have strong support in Atlantic Canada, so maybe once you find that you're not the only one voting for them, it might not seem like a throw away.

And the only reason I can see why most in Atlantic Canada supports the NDP, is because they're the only party that actually bothered to listen to what we need here to grow and develop. The Conservatives have been a joke, and the Liberals screwed us over with the HST and many other things, and even though the NDP only got to being opposition here in NS, they did more work as opposition then the Liberals and Conservatives ever did combined.


Well den, bye, Whasshisname bless us everyone. Maybe there's a chance.

I think it'll be a cold day in hell afore Ont. goes NDP again. I'd personally like to see it, though. Bob Rae did make some large blunders, but I agreed with job sharing, Rae Days, and the like. We saw where people actually stood who mouthed about caring for their fellows, and then did everything they could to sink Rae, when he actually helped people. But, that was a long time ago.

We still haven't recovered from the putrid stench of Harris**, nor are we loving the condescending "my way or the highway" of McLiar. So, hoooonose~!!! Given half a chance and some votes.......maybe.

**.......whose minions now serve Mein Harper. God helpus there.

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Ndp checkn out the tar ponds! Right on!......Workn for slimey oil men will give you lots of money...A poor education....dirty hands!....
Those who don't work for oil companies are up slick creek with out a puddle to P' N ......That's the problem with putting all your faith in oil and $$$$......Perhaps a carbon tax would keep some of that oil money here in canada, without having to sign our country away!!.....

Harpe and Dion already bickering ...Can't hear Elizebeth..Oh that's right...She has no voice of choice!......I remember when the liberals changed the rules and allowed the NDP to keep their place in parliment...I don't think the Canadian tax payers should pay for The Blocs spot ...There members should...NON?
 

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I met Bob Ray N Guelph!...Got my picture taken with him...Was a highlight in my Life.!...I always thought he was bigger though !......Went to a GreenParty too...Those guy's really know how to PARTY .....Wasn't so fussy on the food though...Good people!
 

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I hate to say this but, haven't you noticed that no one cares about the parties or Canadian politics? It's very sad. Voter turnout has been ridiculously low. People forget that they have the power to change things and that we are not the US where everything is controlled by major corporations and if a democrat is elected here they won't be assassinated. It seems to me that Canada is filled with a bunch of citizens that are more concerned with their country of origin then the country that they are in.
 

dancing-loon

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I hate to say this but, haven't you noticed that no one cares about the parties or Canadian politics? It's very sad. Voter turnout has been ridiculously low. People forget that they have the power to change things and that we are not the US where everything is controlled by major corporations and if a democrat is elected here they won't be assassinated. It seems to me that Canada is filled with a bunch of citizens that are more concerned with their country of origin then the country that they are in.
Hmm... can't say that applies to me. But I've noticed that Canadians are very much concerned about the US candidates and their politics... I'm one of them. Canada seems so insignificant out there on the stage compared to the big USA. If someone coughs in Washington, we'll hear it up here for sure, we are that fine-tuned.;-)
 

darkbeaver

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Goodevening DL. I'm sure our election will become inflamed with passion and drive when we decide to discuss the issues, and I don't mean the retarded liberal green streak thing. I know how to address global warming, ignor it and the liberals. Let's not bother fixing the planet let's get the hell off the planet. It is the cheaper option. As for the Americans they're bankrupt, ignor them, they're to poor to bother with any more. McCain will make a fine precident, he'll be the first zombie elected in the USA, have you seen him lately he's very waxy looking, I wouldn't set him too close to the fire.And his Choice of VP is simply atrocious, she's a dispensationalist christian of the very whackiest kind and a lying piece of dirt to boot.
 

Praxius

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Ndp checkn out the tar ponds! Right on!......Workn for slimey oil men will give you lots of money...A poor education....dirty hands!....

Um, the NDP were checking out the Tar Ponds in relation to the level of pollution it produces, and how much more it can produce in the future..... they wern't looking at it as some business opportunity, as the business is already there.