What the Hell is Going on in London?

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Ocean Breeze

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The land of the “thank you” and “please”on the turmoil

If I say this is from God, the materialist will not agree of course, and I don’t mind they don’t agree.

It may be from God according to their transgression on the people of Libya with their fighting planes and missiles (together with the NATO).

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,,,Would suggest strongly that "god " be left out of this and other MAN MADE atrocities, or unrest/ violence . Time for mankind to take ownership of his behavior and enter a true age of civility. But mankind seems to be learning challenged at best as he keeps repeating the same behaviours expecting different results. ( definition of insanity)
 

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The land of the “thank you” and “please”on the turmoil

If I say this is from God, the materialist will not agree of course, and I don’t mind they don’t agree.

It may be from God according to their transgression on the people of Libya with their fighting planes and missiles (together with the NATO).

One word: Syria....
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Yeah brilliant, burn down peoples houses and business because your pissed off because a cop killed an alleged gangster.

When people act like monkeys it's not always the best course of action to pat them on the head and tell them it's okay because it's tough being a monkey.

Get the army out there and sort this crap out before they burn down more innocent peoples property.

Might this be the beginning of even more deadly unrest world wide.?? Certainly tensions are rising

Are you for real?
 

Ocean Breeze

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Yeah brilliant, burn down peoples houses and business because your pissed off because a cop killed an alleged gangster.

When people act like monkeys it's not always the best course of action to pat them on the head and tell them it's okay because it's tough being a monkey.

Get the army out there and sort this crap out before they burn down more innocent peoples property.



Are you for real?

Are YOU???? Ofen this over reaction of violence is a result of a lot more than what is obviously stated.
 

Dexter Sinister

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If I say this is from God, the materialist will not agree of course, and I don’t mind they don’t agree.
You usually say everything is from god, so that claim is hardly a surprise. You won't listen to any counter arguments either, you already know the truth, so in fact you DO mind if people disagree with you.
It may be from God according to their transgression on the people of Libya with their fighting planes and missiles (together with the NATO).
Sure. God first arranges it so Ghaddafi can oppress people and support international terrorism, and watches with indifference for four decades, then arranges it so large numbers of those people will rise against him, then he has Ghaddafi respond with ruthless savagery, then he causes some civilized nations to step in to try to help the oppressed, so he punishes THEM by arranging riots in the home territory of only ONE of the nations involved. And somehow you think this is a logical chain of causation. Truly, there are alien minds among us.

How about this as an alternative: the initial Tottenham riots were due to a large underclass of impoverished first generation immigrant children from Britain's former colonial territories who for a variety of reasons (ethnic, religious, racial, cultural, etc.) remain outside the mainstream of British society. This was followed by copycat behaviour in other places by Britain's native thugs and criminals.
 

DurkaDurka

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real nice bunch of hoodlums roaming the streets of London:

Sickening riot video shows ‘Samaritans’ coming to aid of bleeding man – then robbing him

"At first, it appears as though onlookers had captured a rare moment of compassion during the shocking London riots.

*Scroll down for video*

A young man sits at the side of the road, bleeding from the head or nose, and is approached by a group of apparent Good Samaritans.

A man in a tracksuit kneels down to help the bleeding man to his feet and begins leading to safety.

Then, in a sickening turn, another man wearing a baseball cap comes up from behind and begins rummaging through the injured man’s backpack. Before long, another man on a bicycle pulls up and reaches into the lad’s bag, as does the man in the tracksuit who, apparently believing the lad’s injuries to be minor, seems to also want to get in on the free-for-all robbery."
 

Colpy

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Right.

An insurrection....in one of the most progressive and multi-cultural democracies on earth.

Don't you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself?

You think it means something because the BBC happens to find some moron to interview on the street?

Here's a bulletin for you: the British police do not even CARRY guns unless they have reason to suspect their target is likewise armed. Mark Duggan, by all reports, was human garbage, a violent cocaine dealer. He was armed at the time of his death.

Check it out...

Mark Duggan: Violence, drugs, a fatal stabbing and a most unlikely martyr | Mail Online

A real loss to society, that guy......yep.

I guess it is your contention that the police should wait until fired upon before they defend themselves.

Well, that is not how it works.........
 
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It has been four days now and the violence has spread to other cities in Britain. Call out the army - you betcha and right bloody now. Listening to the ordinary nonviolent members of the British public tonight, the response to the violence has not been what they would have hoped to see but how can the police cope with social media being used to start yet other riots in other parts of the city.
 

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I guess it is your contention that the police should wait until fired upon before they defend themselves.

Well, that is not how it works.........
Yup. Innocent until proven guilty. That's how it works right?


Are these people too fat in your books too?
 

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London investigative reporter Tony Gosling fills you in on all details re the cause of those riots:

Police conduct and resulting deaths should be examined

Lack of proper leadership from the current conservative government, police rampant killing of over 300 minorities with impunity, and the injustice that allows these criminal cops to kill without any justice to the families of those victims.

By the way, reporter Gosling is a long associate of right wing Alex Jones. Therefore, he is NOT a liberal.

One thing more: police alleged Duggan shot at them and they retaliated. Today a police report concludes he did NOT shoot at them. Eventually you will find that the police manufacture their ''facts'' just as they did with de Menezes.
 

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I guess the answer to social media flash mobs is social media shaming.
 

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Yup. Innocent until proven guilty. That's how it works right?


Are these people too fat in your books too?

As you have proven in discussions before this, you don't have a clue about self-defense issues. In fact, you are so far from having a clue about self-defense issues that you couldn't see a clue with the Allegheny Observatory to help you look.

Thank you, though, for your absolutely incoherent and irrelevant contribution to the discussion.

But I'm not letting you grab the wheel....



London investigative reporter Tony Gosling fills you in on all details re the cause of those riots:

Police conduct and resulting deaths should be examined

Lack of proper leadership from the current conservative government, police rampant killing of over 300 minorities with impunity, and the injustice that allows these criminal cops to kill without any justice to the families of those victims.

By the way, reporter Gosling is a long associate of right wing Alex Jones. Therefore, he is NOT a liberal.

One thing more: police alleged Duggan shot at them and they retaliated. Today a police report concludes he did NOT shoot at them. Eventually you will find that the police manufacture their ''facts'' just as they did with de Menezes.

And you are not even in the same dimension as a clue..........

The guy was armed, there is an investigation going on..........the police are innocent until proven guilty, the guy shot was a scumball gang member.

Give it a ****ing break, for Christ's sake.

The point right now, no matter what the outcome of the investigation, is to stop the rioting......

In one of the most just societies on earth.

Are you people born stupid, or do you have to work at it?????
 

Ariadne

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I understood that one of the officer's radios was damaged by a bullet from the guy that was shot in the taxi. The friends of Duggan arranged a peaceful protest, but something happened and a whole lot of other people used this as an opportunity to loot, burn, vandalize and burgle. Whatever is happening for the last couple of days has nothing to do with Duggan.
 

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I understood that one of the officer's radios was damaged by a bullet from the guy that was shot in the taxi. The friends of Duggan arranged a peaceful protest, but something happened and a whole lot of other people used this as an opportunity to loot, burn, vandalize and burgle. Whatever is happening for the last couple of days has nothing to do with Duggan.

Actually, the bullet in the radio probably came from the MP 5 of one of the officers.....probably a ricochet, as a 9mm round would have completely penetrated the radio easily, if its force had not been spent.

Duggan's weapon was unfired, by all reports.