What are Canada's biggest problems?

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Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson on Canadian healthcare:



A friend’s 13-year-old son tripped while climbing off a speedboat and ripped his leg open. Things started well. The ambulance arrived promptly, the wound was bandaged and off he went in a big, exciting van.

It didn’t seem desperately busy. One woman had lost her face somehow — probably a bear attack — and one kid appeared to have taken rather too much ecstasy, but there were no more than a dozen people in the waiting room. And no one was gouting arterial blood all over the walls.



So the kid wasn't spouting (gouting?) blood either........



I went back to the boy’s cubicle, which he was sharing with a young Muslim couple.

- Really? So which is it "But there were no more than a dozen people in the waiting room" or was it busy. I have never seen anyone share a cubicle in ER


A doctor came in and said to them: “You’ve had a miscarriage,” and then turned to go. Understandably, the poor girl was very upset and asked if the doctor was sure.

Really. How you knew there were muslim vs another ethnicity is interesting but no Doctor would discuss this in front of someone else......


At midnight, a young man who had been brought up on a diet of American music, American movies and very obviously American food, arrived to say, in French, that the doctors were changing shift and a new one would be along as soon as possible.

As an English Pig you don't understand Quebec at all. Chances are his English is worse than yours.....


This is because the hospital had no chairs for relatives and friends. It’s not a lack of funds, plainly. Because they had enough money to paint a yellow line on the road nine yards from the front door, beyond which you were able to smoke.

And they also had the cash to employ an army of people to slam the door in your face if you poked your head into the inner sanctum to ask how much longer the wait might be. Sixteen hours is apparently the norm. Unless you want a scan. Then it’s 22 months.

At about 1.30am a doctor arrived. Boy, he was a piece of work. He couldn’t have been more rude if I’d been General Wolfe. He removed the bandages like they were the packaging on a disposable razor, looked at the wound, which was horrific, and said to my friend: “Is it cash or credit card?”


- What Doctor in Canada would ask that? Canadian Doctors get paid by the hospital via the govt., and the 'system' collects the money from outsiders. And they would have been told upfront when asked for his Healthcard, which he would not have had, that payment would have to be made.......


This seemed odd in a country with no private care, but it turns out they charge non-Canadians precisely what they would charge the government if the patient were Céline Dion. The bill was C$300 (about £170).

Celine Dion likely has Quebec Healthcare........



Seven hours after the accident, in a country widely touted to be the safest and best in the world,

What does Canada being the safest and best in the world have to do with this case....?

Now, I appreciate that any doctor who ends up working the night shift at a provincial hospital in Nowheresville

Tell your friend not to holiday in Nowhereville and all will be well.......

But I can say this. If private treatment had been allowed, my friend would have paid for it. He would have received better service and in doing so, allowed Dr Useless to get to the woman with no face or ecstasy boy more quickly.


So the Doctor looked after a cut on a leg that was not gushing out instead of the woman with no face.......?





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The link to the Times is NFG but I'm calling BS on this. I don't know who this guy is or his TV show but I'm thinking someone wanted to make him look like a looser and put this story out...........
 

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Didn't read all previous posts so this may of come up before but my take is globalization is the greatest problem we face we simply can't compete. Well paid industrial jobs are a thing of the past and corps still abandon us for regimes with lax regulations, cheap labour and tax breaks, even head stateside where hydro is not considered a luxury. We've devolved down to a service industry where mcflippers earn peanuts and their debt climbs as does govs with the shrinking tax base. Scary part is guess whom gets to make up the shortfall, safe bet it won't be bay street banksters.

And yeah health care especially here in ontario is the pinnacle of excellence.
‘It was horrible’
 

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The friends we keep.

Didn't read all previous posts so this may of come up before but my take is globalization is the greatest problem we face we simply can't compete. Well paid industrial jobs are a thing of the past and corps still abandon us for regimes with lax regulations, cheap labour and tax breaks, even head stateside where hydro is not considered a luxury. We've devolved down to a service industry where mcflippers earn peanuts and their debt climbs as does govs with the shrinking tax base. Scary part is guess whom gets to make up the shortfall, safe bet it won't be bay street banksters.

And yeah health care especially here in ontario is the pinnacle of excellence.
‘It was horrible’
We don't have to compete we could cooperate it''s more efficient.
That's why stamping it out is front and center.


Didn't read all previous posts so this may of come up before but my take is globalization is the greatest problem we face we simply can't compete. Well paid industrial jobs are a thing of the past and corps still abandon us for regimes with lax regulations, cheap labour and tax breaks, even head stateside where hydro is not considered a luxury. We've devolved down to a service industry where mcflippers earn peanuts and their debt climbs as does govs with the shrinking tax base. Scary part is guess whom gets to make up the shortfall, safe bet it won't be bay street banksters.

And yeah health care especially here in ontario is the pinnacle of excellence.
‘It was horrible’
We don't have to compete we could cooperate it''s more efficient.
That's why stamping it out is front and center.


Thou shalt not cooperate lest yea succeed.
 

Machjo

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It would be interesting what people would come up with in priortising the following from most to least urgent.
1. Environment
2. Unemployment
3. Crime
4. Healthcare
5. Immigration
6. Homelessness
7. Illegal Drugs
8. Other concerns

1. Homelessness
2. Illiteracy
3. Unemployment
4. Illegal Drugs
5. Environment
6. Crime
7. Healthcare
8. Functionally illiterate police and immigration officers
9. Other concerns
 

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It would be interesting what people would come up with in priortising the following from most to least urgent.
1. Environment
2. Unemployment
3. Crime
4. Healthcare
5. Immigration
6. Homelessness
7. Illegal Drugs
8. Other concerns

90% of the population in Canada is no smarter then a two by six. 60% of the population in Canada, is no smarter then a two by four. Most of our kids are out chasing Pokemon.

99.99999% of Canadians have lost touch with reality and live in a imaginary land of unicorns and rainbows that's called television.
 

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That one is especially troubling as it is an indication that people aren't even learning how to manage money on the domestic level and of course the banks/finance companies are abetting the situation. Guess it does come under the heading of the economy.



Boy, is there a lot of truth in that. I don't think people realize how debt is going to inhibit anything they do in the future. I am learning this now - I have always thought that hubby and I were planning for a retirement that we could look forward to; having savings and RRSP's to supplement our pensions when the time came; we've little debt as well. But now, I KNOW we haven't done enough.


My mom is currently in the hospital having gone there herself because she was experiencing pain. They admitted her and now have determined that she suffers from dementia and, over time, it'll only get worse. So my brother and I are tasked with finding a supportive living situation for her because the doctor won't release her to live independently as she was before.


Does anyone have any idea what that costs? OMG!! Mom has been quite frugal and does have savings but holy smoke, they'll be eaten up quite quickly because her pensions won't cover the cost of care. Needless to say, the more care she requires (over time) the more $$ it'll cost. While the province does subsidize to some extent, for a decent place, it's quite expensive.


So, does anyone who carries a large debt have any plans to pay down the debt PLUS save for future needs? It's bloody well scary for those of us on the retirement horizon. I pray that we won't need those services at all and die quietly in our beds LOL.


Dixie
 

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The biggest roadblock to solving Canada's problems is judgmental people who don't look in the mirror, and who don't have a clue, and who think it's everyone else but them

followed maybe by the fact that the system has been gamed and is completely rigged, and the intent that it serve the peeps has been usurped by would be dept slavemasters
 

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1. Homelessness
2. Illiteracy
3. Unemployment
4. Illegal Drugs
5. Environment
6. Crime
7. Healthcare
8. Functionally illiterate police and immigration officers
9. Other concerns



I prefer this list; the "environment" is certainly NOT a big issue in Canada. You want environment to be #1? Go to China!!


Also, I'd scratch #8; I'm pretty sure they have to be "functionally literate". Having had contact in the past with police and recently with immigration, both of whom were absolutely professional, "someone" obviously got "had" by both = either that or they don't know what they're talking about. .


JMHO
 

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Boy, is there a lot of truth in that. I don't think people realize how debt is going to inhibit anything they do in the future. I am learning this now - I have always thought that hubby and I were planning for a retirement that we could look forward to; having savings and RRSP's to supplement our pensions when the time came; we've little debt as well. But now, I KNOW we haven't done enough.


My mom is currently in the hospital having gone there herself because she was experiencing pain. They admitted her and now have determined that she suffers from dementia and, over time, it'll only get worse. So my brother and I are tasked with finding a supportive living situation for her because the doctor won't release her to live independently as she was before.


Does anyone have any idea what that costs? OMG!! Mom has been quite frugal and does have savings but holy smoke, they'll be eaten up quite quickly because her pensions won't cover the cost of care. Needless to say, the more care she requires (over time) the more $$ it'll cost. While the province does subsidize to some extent, for a decent place, it's quite expensive.


So, does anyone who carries a large debt have any plans to pay down the debt PLUS save for future needs? It's bloody well scary for those of us on the retirement horizon. I pray that we won't need those services at all and die quietly in our beds LOL.


Dixie

Most of them plan on a big lottery win as a retirement plan. The fall back option is the government will pay.
 

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1. Homelessness
2. Illiteracy
3. Unemployment
4. Illegal Drugs
5. Environment
6. Crime
7. Healthcare
8. Functionally illiterate police and immigration officers
9. Other concerns


A good list, Machjo to be sure, but I don't agree with your number 1. Homelessness is a huge problem for possibly 3 or 4% of the population and a lesser problem for the rest of us. The root of homelessness has to be addressed and I would say three main causes................in order 1. drugs. 2. unemployment and 3. failure to plan from the get go, with a possibility of 4. healthcare (mental health)
 

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I prefer this list; the "environment" is certainly NOT a big issue in Canada. You want environment to be #1? Go to China!!


Also, I'd scratch #8; I'm pretty sure they have to be "functionally literate". Having had contact in the past with police and recently with immigration, both of whom were absolutely professional, "someone" obviously got "had" by both = either that or they don't know what they're talking about. .


JMHO

It is possible that my perceptions have been coloured by my own experiences with them and it may be that the one's I'd encountered were the exception... I hope you're right.

Just one of my experiences with the CBSA:

While I was being investigated for child porn (I had to reset my phone not long before arrival since it was malfunctioning, so fair enough on that front), I'd observed the interaction at the next booth:

Do you have family?

Yes I do.

Do you all celebrate Christmas in China?

Yes.

But you'll be in Canada alone this Christmas. Why is that?

Because Christmas is not that important to us.

But you just said you celebrate Christmas, so why isn't it it important now?

(Interpreter interrupts officer while other officers look on) Christmas in China is like Halloween here, fun but not essential.

(Officer to interpreter, angry or annoyed tone) You're the interpreter, so interpret!

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I was shocked and felt like intervening on the interpreter 's behalf, but decided against that seeing that I was being investigated myself and I would not be dealing with the sharpest knives here.

And these are the ones defending our borders!? Yikes!

Of course I don't remember the conversation verbatim, but the above conveys the meaning of it.

That's just one of my encounters with the CBSA. Scary bunch.

On another occasion a person had won a case against her and the CBSA still refused to return her passport until her lawyer threatened legal consequences for any officer who continued to withhold her passport.

Worse yet, she had proved the officer's statements in horribly broken English to have all been false!

A good list, Machjo to be sure, but I don't agree with your number 1. Homelessness is a huge problem for possibly 3 or 4% of the population and a lesser problem for the rest of us. The root of homelessness has to be addressed and I would say three main causes................in order 1. drugs. 2. unemployment and 3. failure to plan from the get go, with a possibility of 4. healthcare (mental health)

I'm cautious about judging the homeless and addicts, but whether it's their fault or not, we also don't want to throw money at the problem and so feed the addiction. Instead of money, let's give them shelter, education, and a job. We might want to provide rehab at the same time to ensure the job money doesn't go to drugs. Veterans, emergency service workers, indigenous peoples, and their children are at risk of PTSD or trans-grnrrational trauma. Schools need to be proactive on this. If a child is the child of a vet, a police, fire, or paramedic or indigenous, teachers or school counselors should keep a closer eye on them at an early age. Of course any parent can have it and so any kid too.
 

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Our tolerance will be our eventual undoing. You can't be always accepting and tolorant of everything.

Some behaviour is unacceptable.
 

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I'm cautious about judging the homeless and addicts, but whether it's their fault or not, we also don't want to throw money at the problem and so feed the addiction. Instead of money, let's give them shelter, education, and a job. We might want to provide rehab at the same time to ensure the job money doesn't go to drugs. Veterans, emergency service workers, indigenous peoples, and their children are at risk of PTSD or trans-grnrrational trauma. Schools need to be proactive on this. If a child is the child of a vet, a police, fire, or paramedic or indigenous, teachers or school counselors should keep a closer eye on them at an early age. Of course any parent can have it and so any kid too.
I'm not even remotely sure it's even possible to put an end to the addiction problem and it won't happen before the supply is dried up.
 

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I'm not even remotely sure it's even possible to put an end to the addiction problem and it won't happen before the supply is dried up.

Shoot everyone with a addiction problem, like in China. Problem solved.

Bet no ones going to do drugs after the word hits the streets.
 

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Or bad spelling. :) :)

Shoot everyone with a addiction problem, like in China. Problem solved.

Bet no ones going to do drugs after the word hits the streets.


Hell of a good idea once we decide on addicted to what, how addicted and what criteria is to be laid out to decide on guilt. Is it going to involve snitch lines? How about addicted to booze, gambling, promiscuous women?
 

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Our tolerance will be our eventual undoing. You can't be always accepting and tolorant of everything.

Some behaviour is unacceptable.

Flossy thinks working hard and getting rich is unacceptable behavior.

I'm not even remotely sure it's even possible to put an end to the addiction problem and it won't happen before the supply is dried up.

Not as long as Big Pharma keeps pushing sunshine pills.