This summer may see first ice-free North Pole
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This would not be surprising and it would not be new.
This happens regularly and was noted even back in the 1600's.
Who was looking at the North Pole in the 1600s and from where?
You have the satellite etchings, do you?
European explorers trying to find a way through the Northern passage.
Do you have anymore moronic questions?
European explorers in the 1600s didn't get anywhere near the pole. You need to look at a globe, sometime. The Pole is one hell of a long way North of Baffin Island (3000 kms!) which, by the way, is still the same latitude as the UK. There were no explorers near enough to the Pole to measure anything until the turn of the 20th century. Nice try, though.
Strange as it may seem, the 1600's were 200 years after the 1400's.
Explorers may not have been exactly at the pole per se but they noted that ice coverage varied greatly.
Segue forward to the 1950's when the USS Skate surfaced exactly at the pole and the picture shows no ice at all in any direction. Subsequent years following had huge ice buildups.
Of course, as Suzuki usually suggests, this was all part of a plot by Big Oil.
A short incomplete list of expeditions into the Arctic sea.
This list of Arctic expeditions is a timeline of historic expeditions in, and explorers of, the Arctic. 1 Pre-expedition; 2 1400s; 3 1500s; 4 1600s; 5 1700s; 6 1800s; 7 1900s -------------
Explorers may not have been exactly at the pole per se but they noted that ice coverage varied greatly.
Segue forward to the 1950's when the USS Skate surfaced exactly at the pole and the picture shows no ice at all in any direction. Subsequent years following had huge ice buildups.
Of course, as Suzuki usually suggests, this was all part of a plot by Big Oil.
A short incomplete list of expeditions into the Arctic sea.
This list of Arctic expeditions is a timeline of historic expeditions in, and explorers of, the Arctic. 1 Pre-expedition; 2 1400s; 3 1500s; 4 1600s; 5 1700s; 6 1800s; 7 1900s -------------
They didn't go anywhere near the Pole.
You must live in Calgary. That's where all of the country's climates experts seem to be "clustered".
We absolutely refuse to allow Suzuki to live in YYC and as we all know, the center of global warming knowledge has it's epicenter on on an expert that focuses on studying fruit flies have sex.
I don't give a flying feck about Suzuki or his agenda. The Arctic Pole ice is getting thinner and there are big gaps, now, in the summer and we can see it from space. Suzuki didn't invent any of this and you can't make it go away for ideological reasons.
PS Walter is an asshole.
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'Experts in climate'... Your words
Thinner?... So what?
Are you aware that the globe has experienced multiple episodes of continental glaciation long before mankind ever walked the Earth?
Did you ever get the memo on that?
Yes, it is much thinner than the two miles thick it was 12000 years ago when the sea was 400 feet lower. Like...Steven King Thinner.
As a matter of fact, if you believe these nuts that say there was no civilizations before ours,
then global warming made man.
As a matter of fact, if you believe these nuts that say there was no civilizations before ours,
then global warming made man.
Over a year into his administration, Trump still hasn't been able to muzzle NASA ... yet. Maybe, after sacking Tillerson, his connections to Dallas are waning, a bit.
1. No one knows exactly where they got to. Even you.
You are wrong again.
2. Not even remotely near to Calgary or even Alberta.
Wrong yet again.
Yes, asshole. Explorers didn't go to the North Pole in the Rennaissance.
I have to conclude that you come from somewhere in the United States, based on your obviously sub-standard education.
Your ignorance of history shines like a new moon.
Hint: The 1600s were indeed a time of exploration including unsuccessful attempts at finding a Northwest Passage. That plus geophysical evidence shows the ice coverage can vary dramatically from year to year.
I am a product of limeyland post graduate education which of course is irrelevant to this discussion.
Now go play in your sandbox,fool.
Yes, it is much thinner than the two miles thick it was 12000 years ago when the sea was 400 feet lower. Like...Steven King Thinner.
As a matter of fact, if you believe these nuts that say there was no civilizations before ours,
then global warming made man.
The insane idea that hominoids could change planetary physics speaks to that subjects not being fully and honestly covered or instilled in the average taxpayer during thier stay in public education. An entirely entertaining qlimpse at ruins left arround in heaps all over the world reveals stone cutting that requires CNC like quality, these products were not made with bronze chisles in diorite stones nor basalt, nor granite etc, history is fictionized as soon as it happens.
I don,t mean you Db. I ,m just overreacting a bit to the notion of us skin bags changeing planetary phizics. The fukking math precludes such an event in my opinion. The Sun clearly rules in these coordinates I reckon. We are much better off to drink the tax monies levied upon us for carbon sequestration than to pay it and invest in fraud and lunacy. Koolaid for the house, it,s on me. Digital dollars, big fukkin deal, you can live how long on a digital diet?