The Power of Positive Thinking to Reverse Aging!

[AnnaG]

It might be a dying art. Some feel that "communication" is a one-way, 2-step task...I talk, you listen.

I think there are a few more steps involved...I talk, you listen, process (think), and then you talk. Then, I listen, process (think), and then I talk. And if necessary, repeat the steps.

Perhaps we sometimes skip the "listen" and/or "process" steps. :lol:

We wagonburners have an item in serious discussions among groups called a "talking stick". lol It's just a plain old stick but whoever holds the stick is the only one talking. If someone talks while someone else has the stick, they are asked to leave and no-one talks until they do leave. It's really neat.

 

[AnnaG]

and a sense of humor...

pomposity is not a trait, it is a crutch. don't ya think...lol

Pretty much. lol

 

[AnnaG]

Hi Anna, I was just picking spots that a "ghost from another life" may recognize.

Ah, I thought it was just remote areas. I don't know any ghosts. A few ghost towns, but never saw any ghosts in them. lol

 

[JLM]

Ah, I thought it was just remote areas. I don't know any ghosts. A few ghost towns, but never saw any ghosts in them. lol

There's been one lurking for a day or so.....................:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[countryboy]

lol. I like it, and may I use it? ;-) Your ass did not get starred out, but your "i" did ...lol.
Must mean they like your ass, but not your 'i's'...:-|

Yes, please go ahead and use it. I always thought my "i's" were among my least objectionable features. ;-)

 

[countryboy]

We wagonburners have an item in serious discussions among groups called a "talking stick". lol It's just a plain old stick but whoever holds the stick is the only one talking. If someone talks while someone else has the stick, they are asked to leave and no-one talks until they do leave. It's really neat.

Now that sounds like a perfect application of common sense to me!

Perhaps our House of Commons should adopt the idea! We could rename "Question Period" to "Talking Stick Period." Oh yes, I can think of many other places where this could be used...it would be a hoot at the local fire department meetings.

Now tell me, what do you do if the person holding the stick won't give it up to let someone else talk? Is there a rule for that? (I'm serious...I need to know more about this!)

 

[AnnaG]

Now that sounds like a perfect application of common sense to me!

Perhaps our House of Commons should adopt the idea! We could rename "Question Period" to "Talking Stick Period." Oh yes, I can think of many other places where this could be used...it would be a hoot at the local fire department meetings.

Now tell me, what do you do if the person holding the stick won't give it up to let someone else talk? Is there a rule for that? (I'm serious...I need to know more about this!)

Usually the stick goes round the circle from right to left. (Natives have this thing about things going clockwise). People either sit and stare at the stick-holder or else they get up and leave. One can always form another discussion group and there are no end of sticks in Canuckville..

 

[countryboy]

Usually the stick goes round the circle from right to left. (Natives have this thing about things going clockwise). People either sit and stare at the stick-holder or else they get up and leave. One can always form another discussion group and there are no end of sticks in Canuckville..

OK, the circle idea fits, no problem. Clockwise is good too...nothing "weird" about that.

I'm not sure about the idea of getting up to leave and form another discussion group though. What happens if the local church meeting ends up with 10 members each having their own discussion group of one? I'm assuming that could happen now and again, given the number of people who think they're right and everyone else is wrong? That might be one of the "cultural gaps" that needs to be addressed, if I was to adopt the idea for some of the local meetings around here! :-|

 

[AnnaG]

OK, the circle idea fits, no problem. Clockwise is good too...nothing "weird" about that.

I'm not sure about the idea of getting up to leave and form another discussion group though. What happens if the local church meeting ends up with 10 members each having their own discussion group of one? I'm assuming that could happen now and again, given the number of people who think they're right and everyone else is wrong? That might be one of the "cultural gaps" that needs to be addressed, if I was to adopt the idea for some of the local meetings around here! :-|

I don't know. Any natives I've ever been associated with have been reasonable people and in spite of having differences of opinion, have shown due respect and courtesy to others. The discourtesy seems to have been brought here like smallpox was.

 

[countryboy]

I don't know. Any natives I've ever been associated with have been reasonable people and in spite of having differences of opinion, have shown due respect and courtesy to others.

I've had the same experience. That's why I'm concerned about a "cultural gap" when trying to adapt the idea to a non-native situation. Gotta' give this one a lot of thought, although I still like the concept. A lot.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Conversly, the default position is that there is an afterlife unless somebody proves otherwise. I don't agree, but just because I don't, doesn't make it untrue. You seem to think it does.

Sometimes your arrogance is truly astounding, Sir J.

Default position is that there is after life, really? What kind of after life? Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Applist? Or are you saying that there are hundreds of default position? If so, that is plainly nonsense,

When you say that there are hundreds of default positions, what that means is that the default position is that whole issue is nonsense, unless somebody proves otherwise.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Yep, seems he's the only guy in the world with definite answers.

I try to look at the issues logically, JLM. When there is no proof for afterlife, the only default position (in my opinion) is that there is no afterlife, until somebody proves otherwise. If not, we come to the absurd position of there being hundreds of default positions.

In science, if there are hundreds of default positions on a particular issue, that issue will be considered nonsense and not worth bothering about. That is the position I take.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

It seems to me when one knows something for a certainty he/she wouldn't have any problem convincing others.....................maybe it's just communication skills he lacks.:smile:

Now, why would I want to convince others, JLM? What is in it for me? i am not running for public office. I state my position unequivocally. If others agree with it, so be it, if they don't (or if somebody is offended by it, as countryboy claims), that is the way it goes.

 

[countryboy]

Now, why would I want to convince others, JLM? What is in it for me? i am not running for public office. I state my position unequivocally. If others agree with it, so be it, if they don't (or if somebody is offended by it, as countryboy claims), that is the way it goes.

Countryboy's Commandment (the 11th):

Thou shalt not be offensive in attempts - vain or otherwise - to make one's points. :lol:

 

[countryboy]

I try to look at the issues logically, JLM. When there is no proof for afterlife, the only default position (in my opinion) is that there is no afterlife, until somebody proves otherwise. If not, we come to the absurd position of there being hundreds of default positions.

In science, if there are hundreds of default positions on a particular issue, that issue will be considered nonsense and not worth bothering about. That is the position I take.

There is an afterlife of some sort(s). It's true because many people believe it's true. Any other position - such as the absence of an afterlife - will be considered nonsense and not worth bothering about. That is the gospel truth and nothing but the truth, according to Countryboy. And to science, which cannot disprove the fact that there is an afterlife.

 

[JLM]

Now, why would I want to convince others, JLM? What is in it for me? i am not running for public office. I state my position unequivocally. If others agree with it, so be it, if they don't (or if somebody is offended by it, as countryboy claims), that is the way it goes.

Most people (when three or four people tell them they are wrong) are interested in ferreting out the right answers so they don't come across as a complete nincompoop. I see lots of stuff printed here that I don't agree with, if I can enlighten the person with an explanation, sometimes I do, but I don't just reply with a retort "nonsense".........a statement like that just comes across as arrogant.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

And to science, which cannot disprove the fact that there is an afterlife.

Why would science, or anything else, have to disprove it? Science makes no claims about an afterlife, but there's no evidence to indicate there is one, notwithstanding people like Sylvia Browne and John Edward who claim to talk with the dead. They've all been busted so many times it's hard to credit that they're still in business. They stand as quite a testament to human credulity. People who claim there's an afterlife must produce the evidence to justify the claim, otherwise the default position, scientifically, philosophically, and logically, is that the claim is false. Read my sig line.

 

[petros]

Science has uncovered dimethyltriptamine which is a heavy hallucinogen the brain releases to make death an easy transition. This 'trip" is what is known as "going into the light".

 

[JLM]

Science has uncovered dimethyltriptamine which is a heavy hallucinogen the brain releases to make death an easy transition. This 'trip" is what is known as "going into the light".

Which brings to mind the thousands fo people walking the earth today who have been brought back after clinically dead. Does anyone pay attention to what they have to say or is it just dimissed as "utter nonsense"?

 

[AnnaG]

There is an afterlife of some sort(s). It's true because many people believe it's true. Any other position - such as the absence of an afterlife - will be considered nonsense and not worth bothering about. That is the gospel truth and nothing but the truth, according to Countryboy. And to science, which cannot disprove the fact that there is an afterlife.

IMO, anything after life is death. lol
Reincarnation is a different picture and there's insufficient info to arrive at a conclusion.