The Power of Positive Thinking to Reverse Aging!
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science will never find out anything about reincarnation,
it has nothing to do with facts and reality, it will never
be seen in a test tube, or show up anywhere, it is to do
with the imagination, science is all about curiosity and
proving theories, and finding hard results which can be
understood and make sense to others, reincarnation is only
for those who 'want' to believe it happens, but can never
actually prove it happens, but anyone who wants to believe
it, does.
Our minds are
so 'powerful', we can talk ourselves into believing anything
if we try hard enough, and people with great imaginations and the talent for writing can make up, or imagine many things, then transfer those ideas onto paper.
Just because we can't know anything after we die, doesn't
mean we have to keep our minds open to all sorts of mysterious things happening to us, or wonder what happens
to us, I have none of those things going on in my mind at
all. I know where I'm going, with no fear.
People can write anything in books, people will read them,
and either believe or not.
Many need to believe in reincarnation because it feels much
more comfortable than hanging around here for eternity
with no one paying attention to them, after they die,
personally I am happy to know that I will be here for
eternity, I can touch my earth, lay on it, jump on it,
grow my food on it, build my house on it, and use it for
my resting place after I die, pretty cozy.
Well.....the article is chock full of big scientific words, but I understood the more mundane ones like "probably." There didn't seem to be a definitive conclusion to much on that page. I appreciate the fact that studies were done.
I don't know a thing about telomerase but I do know of a doctor who has successfully treated life-threatening conditions through nothing more than energy healing. His patients have never required proof other than the fact that they were healed. He uses focused energy to heal them. The method is quite simple - he places his hands on the patient for usually no more than 10 or 15 minutes. That's it. Oh, by the way, this doctor has a degree in medicine - his parents insisted on him going to med. school so he could understand anatomy and do a better job. You see, he had been healing all the neighborhood pets - just by touching them - when he was a little kid, and discovered as he got a bit older that he could heal people by simply touching them. Anyway, he's now in his early 60s and still healing people on a daily basis.
I know you don't believe this, and I wouldn't expect you to - you have no factual basis to do so. I was somewhat neutral on the subject until someone very close to me was introduced to this doctor just a couple of months ago. She had undergone a bunch of tests (including CTscan and MRI) and was scheduled for two major surgeries in January (last month). One was for removal of a giant fibroid "tumor" in her "lady parts", and the other was for removal of pollyps (sp?) in her colon, and they were suspected of being malignant. The expected recovery time for the surgeries was 2 months or so (the fibroid one would have been a biggy, as it was approx. the size of a small 5-pin bowling ball, although not in that particular shape!)
She went for a 20 minute treatment by this healer. He placed his hands on her (3 different places) and informed her she was now healed. He also told her she had a minor thyroid imbalance (which she didn't know about) and he fix that too. Being a bit of a skeptic, she went back to her regular doctors for follow-ups and, after another series of tests (including an MRI), was informed she no longer had any of these problems. The fibroid had shrunk to virtuallly nothing in a matter of two weeks. She went for another follow-up a bit later just to make sure...everything was gone. I won't go into the gory details, but the fibroid cells just "melted away" and were expelled from her body (in a very obvious way, she informs me).
It this fiction? No. Did it really happen that way? Yes. How do I know about this? Because it happened to my "better half", who is now making travel plans to get back home very soon. She had been in Japan late last year, taking care of her ailing father, when all this happened - including the original diagnosis. I had been scheduled to arrive there last month just before the surgery, but have since cancelled that trip as "the pressure is off."
I'm not at all concerned about who wishes to disbelieve it or make fun of it...couldn't care less. My point in telling this true story is that it has reconfirmed my long-held belief that we don't know everything and perhaps we never will. When I say I have an "open mind" on things that I don't understand or can't be explained by "conventional" methods, I'm saying it for a pretty good reason.
Talloola, Couldn't agree with you more. A person believes what they believe, and it's really nobody else's business. Hell, we even have a Charter that guarantees our right to do just that. (Don't tell SirJP I said that, or he'll never let me live it down!
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I don’t believe in spiritual nonsense, countryboy, there is no evidence for it.
These are all philosophical questions which are impossible to answer. Everybody has a different answer for it, depending upon his religious and spiritual beliefs. When the truth is so nebulous that anybody can believe anything about it (e.g. I can advance Applism with as much credibility as Christianity or Islam), at least in my opinion there is nothing at the bottom of it.
The default position is that there is no afterlife, unless somebody proves otherwise.
Yes, about the open mind. In one of his stories, Asimov very accurately described this ‘open mind’. Near as I can recall, he said
“Now, Cullen was an intelligent Irish man. That is to say, he believed in the presence of fairies, pixies, little folk, leprechauns etc. and kept an open mind about vampires, werewolves, poltergeist and such foreign trash."
I have never figured out why either, especially since there seems to be nothing to the business.
There must be more to it? Why? What evidence do you have? Just because some religion says so? As far as I am concerned, the whole thing is nonsense. When I die, I am going six feet under (or turn to ashes if they burn what is left of my body after medical research) and that is the end of it.
Don't get me wrong, I have a pretty open mind when it comes to Sylvia Browne, but I think there is a good chance the Hindus may be on to something. We can't dismiss what we can't see- 160 years ago we couldn't see flipping a switch and having a room filled with light.
That exactly is the problem, isn’t it? There are so many things that it could be. When it comes to afterlife, anybody could say anything; there is no way to prove him false. To me, that is a strong indication that the whole thing is nonsense.
When it comes to spiritual matters, I think of the line from the Lovin' Spoonful: "It's like trying to tell a stranger about rock & roll."
A person is either drawn to it or they are not. I read last night that the aboriginal people do not teach people about their spirituality, they share it with them. You don't go to class, you participate in ceremony. That was my experience. My teacher taught by example. He allowed me to witness. What I learned was that integrity is the single most important ingredient in a genuine life.
A person is either drawn to it or they are not. I read last night that the aboriginal people do not teach people about their spirituality, they share it with them. You don't go to class, you participate in ceremony. That was my experience. My teacher taught by example. He allowed me to witness. What I learned was that integrity is the single most important ingredient in a genuine life.
Part of the problem in this discussion is the definition of life. Life is not the movement of material things like our bodies or that of birds, animals, fish or even plants. Life is the energy that animates all living things. Life is a continuum and we are but one small aspect of that continuum. The life force inherent in all living things is measurable and quantifiable. When something dies, that energy is transmuted into other life forms as the body decays. Nothing is gained or lost, just changes. So in that way, we never die.
When your DNA replicates, replication starts somewhere in the middle of a strand, telomeres are the sequences on the end of single strands. In the sequence, there are primers which attach, and later another enzyme will come along to convert the primers into DNA. This is the template if you like for creating new DNA for your overturning cells. The last primer on the end of a strand does not get converted however, and so every time your DNA replicates, the strand shortens. The loss from replication is not quite as large as the loss from oxidative stress. So living well can help somewhat, but it won't reverse this aging process.
Telomerase is simply the enzyme which maintains telomere length. In humans, it's not a functioning enzyme is most of your somatic cells (growth and maintenance) so as time moves on, those cells have a finite ability to replicate due to the problem of shortening strand length due to replication. Information is lost with time, and this is one part of determining how long your body can continue to maintain it's cells, tissues, and ultimately organs and systems.
I'm inherently skeptical of all stories like this, especially when the case is suspected of being something, and not confirmed. Of course there's lots we don't know, but one thing I know is that positive thinking doesn't reverse the aging process. You can't gain back that genetic information that is lost by thinking nice thoughts...
"Of course there's lots we don't know, but one thing I know is that positive thinking doesn't reverse the aging process."..........................FOR YOU.
Quite so, Cliffy. That is also the generally held scientific view, that life is a continuum, without beginning or end. We don’t really know when life begins (that is why the prolifers, who claim that life begins at conception, are out to lunch).