The Canadian Action Party calls the official 9/11 story physically impossible

[CDNBear]

Bear is part of the conspiracy.

All the rationalists deniers are.

 

[Stretch]

I think some of the most damning stuff in the Case against the official theory is the magic passport of one of the hijackers that survived the plane crash, raging fire, 3 tower collapse and ended up conveniently on the street to be picked up by clean up crews. And the fact that it is claimed that some of the men claimed to be involved in the hijackings are allegedly still alive, never having been involved in anything of the sort in the first place. Not to mention WTC Building #7 was never hit by a plane! only experienced minor fires! And yet collapsed all the same? And it is remarkable that all 3 fell just like a controlled demolition, imploding in a straight line to the ground, including building 7 which collapsed for no good reason having sustained no where near the damage of the towers. This sort of thing would never happen in the states would it? Just ask JFK and the magic bullet that had a built in remote control!!!!!

Ain't that the truth about the passport!

There have been instances of skyscapers burning for over 24 hrs and still didnt collapse.
In may of 2001, the exiled leader of Afganistan, was told by the us gov that they will be at war with his country, come oct....and thats on record with the bbc...wonder how "they" knew


Why No One Could Have Predicted The Collapse Of WTC 7
Building was specifically designed to have floors removed without collapsing
http://infowars.net/articles/march2007/010307BBC_WTC7.htm

in NZ we learned about jfk murder b4 it happened.....someone screwed up on the time diff

 

[darkbeaver]

This thread contains not a scrap of evidence from the believers of the official conspiracy story. Some ammusment though.:smile:

 

[Stretch]

I'm strongly starting to suspect the conspiracy theorists are using this whole situation to bolster their egos. they always say things like "it''s very easy really if you'll only think outside the box" and "obviously you can only understand this if you arent a capitalist sheep". they even invented the term sheeple, or at least made it popular.

I've said something like this before:

It's a sad example of the state of the world that rather than see the tragedy and learn from it, people would rather bolster their own egos and use it as a political tool to posture and build websites about

I can remember a few yrs back when the good ol' us of g was saying they were going to attack iraq because it has wmd and is going to or might use them ....... were know exactly where they are....
I said that they dont exist so they will never be found.....had my life threatened for saying so....the good old days of msn chat....I said back then that it was about the oil and I'll stand by that

 

[Stretch]

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

Here is a quote from a NYFD fireman about WTC. 7. WTC 7 was wrecked by falling debris. The whole interview is on that link from the men that were there and not the CC Conspiracy nuts.

"A little north of Vesey I said, we’ll go down, let’s see what’s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what’s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.

NYPD Officer Heard Building 7 Bombs
"The whole time you're hearing boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I think I know an explosion when I hear it"​

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/100207heardbombs.htm


More Ground Zero Heroes On The Record: Building 7 Was Deliberately Brought Down
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/090207broughtdown.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W53wdu8IGlE&NR

 

[Toro]

Ain't that the truth about the passport!

There have been instances of skyscapers burning for over 24 hrs and still didnt collapse.
In may of 2001, the exiled leader of Afganistan, was told by the us gov that they will be at war with his country, come oct....and thats on record with the bbc...wonder how "they" knew


Why No One Could Have Predicted The Collapse Of WTC 7
Building was specifically designed to have floors removed without collapsing
http://infowars.net/articles/march2007/010307BBC_WTC7.htm

in NZ we learned about jfk murder b4 it happened.....someone screwed up on the time diff

So what?

The fact that other buildings burned and didn't fall is irrelevant. Not too many were 110 stories high that had large planes filled with jet fuel slamming into them, near as I can tell.

And this " it wasn't designed to" or "others don't" is such a bogus issue. It assumes engineers are never wrong. Google "Tacoma Narrows Bridge" and watch the video.

But how can that be if other bridges don't collapse and this one was designed not to either? Must be a conspiracy!

 

[Stretch]

That was a display of blithering incompetence, stupidity and multiple compounded errors in judgement. You really think the same people were capable of pulling off 9/11? You're obviously beyond any hope of evidence and logic on this subject.

one thing I have noticed over the yrs of discussing 911 etc is just how quick the official story believers resort to name calling and ridicule, where those of us of the ct bent just stay focused on on what we believe to be facts...and just remember...tis only a conspiracy till it becomes a fact

 

[Stretch]

Then how do you explain Iraq being completely in ruins and the oil being in America hands, which incidently were the reasons for the attack in the first place. Or are you telling me you believe freedom and democracy were the goals? I'm not the one ignoring logic in this case Dex.

Its the oil.................

[FONT=Dauphin, Calisto MT]Why Are We At War? It's the Oil, Stupid![/FONT]
By Joseph Clifford, JAMESTOWN, Rhode Island - Please see The Ultimate 9/11 information Archive on one website located at http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archiveprior_knowledge.html​

The Russians got into their Vietnam right after we got out of ours? Isn't that strange?
We supported Bin Laden and the Taliban for years, and viewed them as Freedom fighters against the Russians. Isn't that strange?
As late as 1998 the US was paying the salary of every single Taliban official in Afghanistan? Isn't that strange?
There is more oil and gas in the Caspian Sea area than in Saudi Arabia, but you need a pipeline through Afghanistan to get the oil out. Isn't that strange?
UNOCAL, a giant American Oil conglomerate, wanted to build a 1-000-mile long pipeline from the Caspian Sea through Afghanistan to the Arabian Sea. Isn't that strange?
UNOCAL spent $10 billion on geological surveys for pipeline construction, and very nicely courted the Taliban for their support in allowing the construction to begin. Isn't that strange?
All of the leading Taliban officials were in Texas negotiating with UNOCAL in 1998. Isn't that strange?
1998-1999 - The Taliban changed its mind and threw UNOCAL out of the country and awarded the pipeline project to a company from Argentina. Isn't that strange?
John Maresca, vice president of UNOCAL, testified before Congress and said no pipeline until the Taliban was gone and a more friendly government was established. Isn't that strange?
1999-2000 - The Taliban became the most evil people in the world. Isn't that strange?
Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October. Isn't that strange?
Sept. 11, 2001 - WTC disaster. Bush goes to war against Afghanistan even though none of the hijackers came from Afghanistan. Isn't that strange?
Bush blamed Bin Laden but has never offered any proof saying it's a "secret." Isn't that strange?
Taliban offered to negotiate to turn over Bin Laden if we showed them some proof. We refused; we bombed. Isn't that strange?
Bush said: "This is not about nation building. It's about getting the terrorists." Isn't that strange?
We have a new government in Afghanistan. Isn't that strange?
The leader of that government formerly worked for UNOCAL. Isn't that strange?
Bush appoints a special envoy to represent the US to deal with that new government, who formerly was the "chief consultant to UNOCAL." Isn't that strange?
The Bush family acquired their wealth through oil? Isn't that strange?
Bush's secretary of interior was the president of an oil company before going to Washington. Isn't that strange?
George Bush Sr. now works with the "Carlysle Group" specializing in huge oil investments around the world. Isn't that strange?
Condoleeza Rice worked for Chevron before going to Washington. Isn't that strange?
Chevron named one of its newest "supertankers" after Condoleezza. Isn't that strange?
Dick Cheney worked for the giant oil conglomerate Haliburton before becoming vice president. Isn't that strange?
Haliburton gave Cheney $34 million as a farewell gift when he left the company. Isn't that strange?
Haliburton is in the pipeline construction business. Isn't that strange?
There is $6 trillion worth of oil in the Caspian Sea area. Isn't that strange?
The US government quietly announced on Jan 31, 2002 that we will support the construction of the Trans-Afghanistan pipeline. Isn't that strange?
President Musharraf (Pakistan), and interim leader Karzai, (Afghanistan - UNOCAL) announce agreement to build proposed gas pipeline from Central Asia to Pakistan via Afghanistan. (Irish Times 02/10/02) Isn't that strange?
It's the Oil, Stupid!
Mr. Joseph Clifford also contributed this article to Media Monitors Network (MMN)
http://www.rainbowbody.net/Ongwhehonwhe/stupidoil.htm

 

[Tonington]

I think more aptly, it's only a theory until it's fact. The idea of the conspiracy remains whethor or not it's proven.

 

[darkbeaver]

So when all is said and done what we acctually have is two conspiracy theorys to explain the same event. One theory favoured by the mentally challenged contents that the attacks were carried out because they hate what we stand for, they hate our freedom and liberty, and they despise American values, the other theory favoured by the handsome intelligent thinking group believes theft of the forth lagest oil reserves on the planet and economic and military dominion of said planet are far more likely motives.:lol:

 

[Stretch]

>>>One theory favoured by the mentally challenged contents that the attacks were carried out because they hate what we stand for, they hate our freedom and liberty,<<< in that case why not take out the ststue of liberty, 'cause insnt that what it's s'posed to stand for......

anyway.....

9/11 Physicist Contacted To Appear On The View
Physicist Professor Steven Jones has confirmed that Rosie O'Donnell's staff have contacted him regarding a potential future appearance on The View to discuss the improbable collapse of the twin towers and WTC 7.
Posted Apr 5, 2007 03:16 PM PST
Category: 911
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/050407physicistcontacted.htm



9/11 Mysteries (Full Length, High Quality)
Posted Apr 5, 2007 03:14 PM PST
Category: 911
At the very end of this video are the reports by survivors of the WTC of heavy work taking place on supposedly empty floors in the weeks before 9-11; floors the elevators would not stop on without a special access key.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911

 

[Toro]

Its the oil.................

[FONT=Dauphin, Calisto MT]Why Are We At War? It's the Oil, Stupid![/FONT]
By Joseph Clifford, JAMESTOWN, Rhode Island - Please see The Ultimate 9/11 information Archive on one website located at http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archiveprior_knowledge.html​

The Russians got into their Vietnam right after we got out of ours? Isn't that strange?
We supported Bin Laden and the Taliban for years, and viewed them as Freedom fighters against the Russians. Isn't that strange?
As late as 1998 the US was paying the salary of every single Taliban official in Afghanistan? Isn't that strange?
There is more oil and gas in the Caspian Sea area than in Saudi Arabia, but you need a pipeline through Afghanistan to get the oil out. Isn't that strange?
UNOCAL, a giant American Oil conglomerate, wanted to build a 1-000-mile long pipeline from the Caspian Sea through Afghanistan to the Arabian Sea. Isn't that strange?
UNOCAL spent $10 billion on geological surveys for pipeline construction, and very nicely courted the Taliban for their support in allowing the construction to begin. Isn't that strange?
All of the leading Taliban officials were in Texas negotiating with UNOCAL in 1998. Isn't that strange?
1998-1999 - The Taliban changed its mind and threw UNOCAL out of the country and awarded the pipeline project to a company from Argentina. Isn't that strange?
John Maresca, vice president of UNOCAL, testified before Congress and said no pipeline until the Taliban was gone and a more friendly government was established. Isn't that strange?
1999-2000 - The Taliban became the most evil people in the world. Isn't that strange?
Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October. Isn't that strange?
Sept. 11, 2001 - WTC disaster. Bush goes to war against Afghanistan even though none of the hijackers came from Afghanistan. Isn't that strange?
Bush blamed Bin Laden but has never offered any proof saying it's a "secret." Isn't that strange?
Taliban offered to negotiate to turn over Bin Laden if we showed them some proof. We refused; we bombed. Isn't that strange?
Bush said: "This is not about nation building. It's about getting the terrorists." Isn't that strange?
We have a new government in Afghanistan. Isn't that strange?
The leader of that government formerly worked for UNOCAL. Isn't that strange?
Bush appoints a special envoy to represent the US to deal with that new government, who formerly was the "chief consultant to UNOCAL." Isn't that strange?
The Bush family acquired their wealth through oil? Isn't that strange?
Bush's secretary of interior was the president of an oil company before going to Washington. Isn't that strange?
George Bush Sr. now works with the "Carlysle Group" specializing in huge oil investments around the world. Isn't that strange?
Condoleeza Rice worked for Chevron before going to Washington. Isn't that strange?
Chevron named one of its newest "supertankers" after Condoleezza. Isn't that strange?
Dick Cheney worked for the giant oil conglomerate Haliburton before becoming vice president. Isn't that strange?
Haliburton gave Cheney $34 million as a farewell gift when he left the company. Isn't that strange?
Haliburton is in the pipeline construction business. Isn't that strange?
There is $6 trillion worth of oil in the Caspian Sea area. Isn't that strange?
The US government quietly announced on Jan 31, 2002 that we will support the construction of the Trans-Afghanistan pipeline. Isn't that strange?
President Musharraf (Pakistan), and interim leader Karzai, (Afghanistan - UNOCAL) announce agreement to build proposed gas pipeline from Central Asia to Pakistan via Afghanistan. (Irish Times 02/10/02) Isn't that strange?
It's the Oil, Stupid!
Mr. Joseph Clifford also contributed this article to Media Monitors Network (MMN)
http://www.rainbowbody.net/Ongwhehonwhe/stupidoil.htm

The Unocal pipeline theory is perhaps the most bizarre, and highlights why we don't take the conspiracists seriously.

 

[Stretch]

prove it wrong then please

 

[Jay]

Who gives a **** what the Canadian Action Party says anyways?

 

[Toro]

prove it wrong then please

Last night, Cindy Crawford knocked on my door wearing nothing but a grin, begging to be my love slave.

Prove that it didn't happen.

 

[I think not]

Prove that it didn't happen.

I can.

She was my love slave last night.

 

[Jay]

I thought Cindy Crawford had her witts about her and taste?

 

[I think not]

I thought Cindy Crawford had her witts about her and taste?

She does, that's why she was over my place instead of yours. :lol:

 

[Toro]

Well, she was at my door this morning!

Tsk, tsk, ITN!

The point is, though, that you cannot "prove" something that didn't happen when the theory is constructed from a series of events that could have a thousand explanations.

But to think that war was initiated so Unocal could build a pipeline across a mountainous central Asian country defies belief for anyone with even an inkling of the oil business. It is so f****** inconsequential relative to the costs borne out of war.

But context and perspective are usually lacking from the conspiracists.

 

[Jay]

She does, that's why she was over my place instead of yours. :lol:

I set myself up for that one!



Truth be told I sent her over to you..... Happy Easter! ;-)